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Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:37 am**

I am also of the opinion that scum most likely already know where thr boxes are because it's plausibly a scum role moving them around

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:38 am**

Ftr is for the record

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:42 am**

Scumteams may also be particularly scared to reveal inane mechanical details to me specifically, given the time I turned a reflexive messenger that sent the badger badger mushroom video into a guilty by getting scum to reveal they had received a badger video

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 am**

Rogue, have you acquired any boxes?

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 am**

In post 782, Rogue wrote:I don’t like chess nor do we have a box.

@Luke- change your background on one of the two accounts to signal you’re on the wrong account.

I’ll be here on lunch

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:49 am**

Ah, missed that

I'm phoneposting at present

Thanks

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:53 am**

In post 799, The Bombay wrote:and also looked at Skitters reads to see why she was the night kill

Basically, we thought that all three of Skitter, Rouge, and us were pretty widely town read, and where we predicted the night kill to land. Then Skitter was killed, and we were roleblocked. So Marci went back and looked at skitters reads compared to ours to see why they might chose to do it that way versus killing us and roleblocking Skitter.

Comparing our reads, these are the the main places that we diverged.

We were leaning town on LLD (well, I was at least), and Skitter was scum reading her, and even ended the day voting her.

We were town reading Mastina, and Skitter was scum reading her.

We were leaning scum on JJH, and Skitter was town reading him.

Marci's conclusion was that one of [LLD / Mastina] is likely to be scum, and that JJH is more likely town.

Then looking at the two of LLD and Mastina, she thinks that Mastina looks like tunneled town.

I agree with her assessment of Mastina. And I see her point about Skitters reads. So my own read of LLD has dropped from lean town to on the fence.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:56 am**

I like the nka on the whole there, but I would add the caveat that it was an n1 nk on the least mislimable of the strongest players in the game

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:00 am**

I would say that from my perspective, LLD is the most likely of the strongest players in this game to be scum, but I don't think I can make an accurate assessment there yet and it would make my life easier if we all just townread her until she gets nightkilled or stays alive longer than she should have done without catching all the scum

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:02 am**

In post 807, jjh927 wrote:I would add the caveat that it was an n1 nk on the least mislimable of the strongest players in the game

Yeah, we took that into consideration.

We considered ourselves, Skitter, and Rouge to all be equally hard to miseliminate and equally town read. That is why we were looking at us as the alternative, and not looking at the people we thought might be miselim targets.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:07 am**

I don't really think you're right in that regard

Just wasn't the vibe I picked up, and I'm pretty good at reading the gamestate

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:09 am**

I don't think rogue was particularly high profile, while you were a more controversial slot and still are to some extent

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:10 am**

Bombay, what's your read on Shiro?

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:10 am**

In post 775, mastina wrote:Nothing in Dwlee town (Dwlee was null) or skitter town (skitter was town) changes my previous reads; it only strengthens them. Bombay and SirCakez don't become less scum from those; they become more scum.

The thing that should probably make you second guess your reads is probably this:

In post 297, mastina wrote:Respectfully, you also think LLD is scum, and I very much don't, so. You and I seem to be on entirely opposite pages.

When your reads and Skitter were on "entirely opposite pages," I feel like you might want to question your reads when they choose to kill Skitter.

Do you think that Skitters reads were really bad, and that they decided to kill her off over one of the other town read players? Since you think I am scum, why not kill Rogue if Skitter's reads were bad?

That being said, Cakez is in our scum pile too. So maybe don't second guess that one. But you not spending the entire game tunneled on us might be fun.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:15 am**

In post 794, That Idiot Ivan wrote: Loyal/disloyal shenanigans? No idea what that means, but noted on how it
reflects to you
.

In post 798, jjh927 wrote:Don't you "no u" me

To you, not on you.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:15 am**

In post 811, jjh927 wrote:I don't think rogue was particularly high profile, while you were a more controversial slot and still are to some extent

I think that the only person in the game that was scum reading us is Mastina, so I am not sure that I would agree with you. And every time that Mastina called us scum, a number of people came back and told her that her reasons were bad (off the top of my head I remember you, Skitter, and Rogue all doing so).

But regardless, my own play experience tells me that I am a particularly hard person to miseliminate.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:19 am**

And we also took into account that they roleblocked us.

In thinking about why that happened, I think it was because I said I was happy with my role despite my posting restriction. Which they might have taken to mean that I had a strong role to counter balance the restriction.

So, I am a hard person to miseliminate, and we were fairly widely town read (with multiple people coming to our defense when suspicion was sent our way), and they clearly believed that we had a power worthy of their roleblock, they still chose to kill Skitter over us.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:22 am**

In post 812, That Idiot Ivan wrote:Bombay, what's your read on Shiro?

I don't have one. I don't remember if Marci gave one in our chat either. If she did, it was not one that she talked much about.

I am curious what they meant by saying they had a guess about what happened last night with respect to our ability though.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:24 am**

At any rate, I really don't think the accuracy of reads after a 72 hour day would be a major nk consideration. I am pretty sure it was always gonna be skitter

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:50 am**

In post 806, The Bombay wrote:
In post 799, The Bombay wrote:and also looked at Skitters reads to see why she was the night kill
Basically, we thought that all three of Skitter, Rouge, and us were pretty widely town read, and where we predicted the night kill to land. Then Skitter was killed, and we were roleblocked. So Marci went back and looked at skitters reads compared to ours to see why they might chose to do it that way versus killing us and roleblocking Skitter.

Comparing our reads, these are the the main places that we diverged.

We were leaning town on LLD (well, I was at least), and Skitter was scum reading her, and even ended the day voting her.

We were town reading Mastina, and Skitter was scum reading her.

We were leaning scum on JJH, and Skitter was town reading him.

Marci's conclusion was that one of [LLD / Mastina] is likely to be scum, and that JJH is more likely town.

Then looking at the two of LLD and Mastina, she thinks that Mastina looks like tunneled town.

I agree with her assessment of Mastina. And I see her point about Skitters reads. So my own read of LLD has dropped from lean town to on the fence.

Luke Luke Luke

Are you scum, bud? Was this the plan, to use Skitter's misread of me to weaken confidence in me and claim thread control?

Because this thread is a mess. A complete mess of chaos and scum influence, and I'm honestly kind of curious how you decided that this train of logic was remotely reasonable.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:02 am**

Now personally I am of the opinion that this is Pooky doing the cheeky humour thing that gets them off of the hook easily and we are obligated to kill them after that hammer.

I feel like Pooky Ydra arr greater than rand scum here and my town reads are pretty large as a list goes and so I feel like that needs to be where we go today.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:10 am**

In post 819, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Luke Luke Luke

Are you scum, bud? Was this the plan, to use Skitter's misread of me to weaken confidence in me and claim thread control?

Because this thread is a mess. A complete mess of chaos and scum influence, and I'm honestly kind of curious how you decided that this train of logic was remotely reasonable.

The tone of this feels so wildly different then any other time you have called me scum, and you have called me scum in every single game we have played in together.

That also looks like a dumb plan.

Lld, what are your thoughts regarding the chess game and T3?

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:24 am**

LLD, any box related mechanical stuff?

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:24 am**

In post 822, jjh927 wrote:LLD, any box related mechanical stuff?

Had one, it went away at the end of the night.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:27 am**

In post 821, The Bombay wrote:
In post 819, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Luke Luke Luke

Are you scum, bud? Was this the plan, to use Skitter's misread of me to weaken confidence in me and claim thread control?

Because this thread is a mess. A complete mess of chaos and scum influence, and I'm honestly kind of curious how you decided that this train of logic was remotely reasonable.
The tone of this feels so wildly different then any other time you have called me scum, and you have called me scum in every single game we have played in together.

That also looks like a dumb plan.

Lld, what are your thoughts regarding the chess game and T3?

No idea and T3 probably town.

Also, it's because I'm fucking with you and I know something you don't.

Kind of a Dunnstral Mtn Dew moment~

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