CONTROL - GAME OVER!

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #6700 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:57 pm

Anyway i’m grateful for being allowed to win by technicality, but i can’t accept this as an win in my heart :/
I was never supposed to be able to scumside, my goal was to destroy everyone, and i didn’t factor in scum doctor that could block my killing. If i’d known that i would have radically changed my strategy and focused a lot more on killing scum than i ended up doing.

Bell · Post Post #6701 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:59 pm

*points at cephrir*

I FUCKING KNEW IT

Bell · Post Post #6702 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:59 pm

gg.

We got wrecked.

ISO · Post Post #6703 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:06 pm

In post 6700, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Anyway i’m grateful for being allowed to win by technicality, but i can’t accept this as an win in my heart :/
I was never supposed to be able to scumside, my goal was to destroy everyone, and i didn’t factor in scum doctor that could block my killing. If i’d known that i would have radically changed my strategy and focused a lot more on killing scum than i ended up doing.

You deserve a Hannibal nom. Arsonist is really hard to play, harder than a serial killer, and you still did extraordinarily well.

Roden · Post Post #6704 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:07 pm

GG

This game was a roller coaster and it ended with me throwing because I couldn't bring myself to vote out the only people who weren't screaming for my head. God this feels shitty.

Nero Cain · Post Post #6705 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:10 pm

this is the game that catboi hard scumread me b/c I made a "scummy" entrance, right?

Roden · Post Post #6706 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:10 pm

Nora and I correctly reading each other and both actually being town is a positive take away from this game at least, considering our previous games. I genuinely appreciate that.

tictac · Post Post #6707 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:11 pm

In post 6705, Nero Cain wrote:this is the game that catboi hard scumread me b/c I made a "scummy" entrance, right?

u got shot before being able to post.

tictac · Post Post #6708 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:11 pm

good game.
gongratz to scum, u did well.

Roden · Post Post #6709 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:12 pm

In post 6705, Nero Cain wrote:this is the game that catboi hard scumread me b/c I made a "scummy" entrance, right?

You got shot because of the previous player you replaced.

Nero Cain · Post Post #6710 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:12 pm

In post 6707, tictac wrote:
In post 6705, Nero Cain wrote:this is the game that catboi hard scumread me b/c I made a "scummy" entrance, right?
u got shot before being able to post.

i posted in the hood thread

MegAzumarill · Post Post #6711 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:14 pm

ggwp all
thx for modding cakez

tictac · Post Post #6712 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:15 pm

In post 6696, Noraa wrote:im pretty sure tictac and i have a pstyle clash

i don't think so?
my read on ur slot was
noraa: town
titus: null
pinkie: scum
with some variation on strength of each

tictac · Post Post #6713 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:18 pm

In post 6700, NorwegianboyEE wrote:can’t accept this as an win in my heart

ur wincon should have been "infect everyone", and i think u did that.

Lukewarm · Post Post #6714 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:19 pm

This was a wild ride from the spectator thread.

@Norwee, I would count this as a mold win > a scum win from the sidelines - so take the win!

In almost all cases the "or if you control 50% of the population" line is just a time saver, because scum killing everyone at that point is inevitable. That inevitability was not here, so it should not have been in play (but I understand why scum would be upset with a declared scum loss, so I get the tie declaration). If the game played out, you killed Mastina before Mastina kills you. That means you win.

Scum could have beaten you if they shot you last night, but they apparently didn't, so that is the thing that tipped the game to you. You still had your bulletproof.

Mod said that you would have had to reapply your mold and then reignite to kill Mastina. If they had ever identified you, and shot you, then they would have won the race.

Noraa · Post Post #6715 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:20 pm

In post 6706, Roden wrote:Nora and I correctly reading each other and both actually being town is a positive take away from this game at least, considering our previous games. I genuinely appreciate that.

this was a really good moment for sure. i just hate that my stream of lost town games continues

Noraa · Post Post #6716 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:21 pm

In post 6712, tictac wrote:
In post 6696, Noraa wrote:im pretty sure tictac and i have a pstyle clash
i don't think so?
my read on ur slot was
noraa: town
titus: null
pinkie: scum
with some variation on strength of each

well from my side you were just
scum
scum scum

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #6717 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:21 pm

Sigh i thought having delayed kills was enough of an balancing between scum and 3P. I really did not see an full mafia doctor being in the setup when an scum JOAT too had just flipped.

Noraa · Post Post #6718 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:24 pm

im going to break the streak someday. i am determined.
also i've learned
SHEEP PETAS READS PERIOD

ISO · Post Post #6719 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:25 pm

Yes scum shot Three Bears last night so Norwe still has his BP

Noraa · Post Post #6720 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:26 pm

lmao. why did scum shoot us twice @_@

Noraa · Post Post #6721 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:27 pm

massy dont you love us :[

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #6722 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:37 pm

In post 6714, Lukewarm wrote:This was a wild ride from the spectator thread.

@Norwee, I would count this as a mold win > a scum win from the sidelines - so take the win!

In almost all cases the "or if you control 50% of the population" line is just a time saver, because scum killing everyone at that point is inevitable. That inevitability was not here, so it should not have been in play (but I understand why scum would be upset with a declared scum loss, so I get the tie declaration). If the game played out, you killed Mastina before Mastina kills you. That means you win.

Scum could have beaten you if they shot you last night, but they apparently didn't, so that is the thing that tipped the game to you. You still had your bulletproof.

Mod said that you would have had to reapply your mold and then reignite to kill Mastina. If they had ever identified you, and shot you, then they would have won the race.

I guess it all comes down to the rule on whether scum would win before having killed any other 3P factions in the game.
But it was never really made clear to scum so if they’d known they might have been hunting more stringently for the mold 3P right?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #6723 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:43 pm

One thing i’m curious about.
How would an scenario in which we move into night with 2 scum, 1 town and 1 mold that is bulletproof and has tagged all other players resolve? Technically scum would win instantly by that point due to controlling 50% of the game regardless of what would have happened that night, right?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #6724 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:54 pm

Note of curiousity:
I infected TheWayItEnds on night 2, not expecting Tet to randomly push them as an elim. They then proceed to never claim having been molded. Which annoyed me as i wanted them to confirm it. But i couldn’t push them to claim it because that would obviously implicate me.
After i infected Galron and they said they were immune to molding by their ability i 100% believed they were scum and thus pushed for them hard. If they had just claimed being molded honestly i would have hard defended them and they likely would not have been the lim on that day.