Micro 1042: Meme Wars | Fin!

[MegAzumarill]

I suppose

[Esooa]

oh hi

[Esooa]

I would actually kill Val

[Esooa]

I don't actually know lol

[Esooa]

VOTE: meg for now

[Val89]

I would suggest actually reading the game, Esooa, because if you are wrong - and I am leaning much more towards StD on the basis of the two claims alone - I just know you are the one who is going to casting the deciding vote of this game.

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

[Dwlee99]

Why can't it be me

[Val89]

If the question is "Why won't I be the one casting the deciding vote", Dwlee;

What even happened to my brain that I went from pushing val D1 to thinking they were townie now?

I would actually kill Val

I see that, and I know exactly who I would be taking into an ELO in StDs shoes, here.

Maybe I am wrong, but I come back, and the first thing I see is an indication of the very real posibility I might have wasted near 4 weeks; I don't mind losing games, but if it's going to happen I would rather do so because we've been outplayed, not through apathy. If I am being unkind, and some thought

has

gone into this game, I appologise; but that isn't the sense I am getting.

[Dwlee99]

Are you suggesting that you have put substantial thought in? I mean, why STD over meg? Cause of the claim?

[Dwlee99]

I want you to actually scum case STD if you think he is scum here

[Dwlee99]

Also: if you're wrong on STD then esooa would still be the kill? No?

[Dwlee99]

Er me, I mean

[Dwlee99]

Pardon my paranoia, but that immediately after Esooa indicates a Meg preference you jumping in to push STD is like exactly following a scum win path, because it seems like Esooa would consider voting meg between you/meg, but not voting STD in you/STD

[Dwlee99]

And STD really has the most reason to seem town. I'll have to do some research possibly, but three hard shoves him to start

[Val89]

There has been some clever scumplay afoot here, regardless. I feel like I good spend the next few days pouring over the wiki, trying to find a way that scum!Dwlee or scum!Esooa fits the results we have, but even if there is one (and more experianced minds than mine haven't indicated there is) I think occams razor would apply in anycase.

As such, I have to weigh up which of the two scenarios is more likley.

a) MegA, being the last slot to claim, having seen my claim and how it clears them; claims novice tracker, with a result whilst they were in jail, thereby clearing Dwlee and putting themselves back under suspicion. Having done so, and the only reason I can see they would do that is if the game plan was to throw doubt on my claim and have me mislimmed, which seems a stupid plan when the alternative is to just claim no result and ride my clear to the win, they then

don't

push me. While I can see how to push me know would probably give the game away on my flip, I can't see the scum utility of even going down this route, unless it is some WIFOM of the highest order, but one that was entirely unnessacary under the circumstances.

b) StDs fake claimed 1-shot RBer with a mafia JK as partner, and the whole three/std interactions were distancing.

Of the two, I have to say I find B much more likley, as convincing as that partner play was. 1 shot RBer seems a decent D1 fake-claim with a JK in the game, particulary if, as there must me, backups or the like are in play.

[Dwlee99]

I will admit your role and meg's appear designed for the same setup

[Dwlee99]

What I cannot wrap my head around is why STD would be blocking you

[Dwlee99]

But that applies for any scum...

[Dwlee99]

Also: why would STD kill prism over pav? Ever? Look at who dies N1. It's prism. How does this take priority over a role cop for scum!STD? Prism townreads STD EoD, is postured to push meg (which in this universe would be a free mislim), and there's a rolecop who imo is likely to check the other PR claim to see if it's real. And scum!STD goes with killing someone who will push a mislim for him?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Meg
I'm not quite okay ending day yet but this just seems like the answer on play and NKA, mechs be damned

[Dwlee99]

If I'm wrong I am sorry

[Dwlee99]

Wait I can make a mech argument even though it shouldn't actually mean anything

2-shot rolecop + cop/jailkeeper/checker + Novice Tracker is probably too much town power. But this is meaningless not knowing what exactly scum have.

[Val89]

It's a question I've been asking myself since Meg claimed a result. Meg says noone was decoding my crumb, but I'm not so sure myself; but even if they had, I don't see why Prism ever came under consideration N1 - Pav dying over me suggests they thought Pav was a threat, but then just block me, kill Pav; or vice versa.

I don't understand it, but I know my role and I've confirmed my results are legit; so, unless I'm going to seriously entertain the possibility that the normals of 5-8 years ago are SO out of line with the normals of today that one of you or Esooa could still be scum here - and I'm not, then I come to conclusion that one of those two scenarios are where we are, and I think StD is much more likley, by far.

It hadn't occured to me that me pushing StD would be a path to victory for scum!me, but I take your word for it, and I can't allow that to disaude me anyway. If it is how it is, and I am going to come under serious consideration as the final scum, I would rather you said nothing more, but voted me today with the implict promise coming with that vote that you (and hopefully Esooa) will at least take a good long look at StD overnight.

[Dwlee99]

Esooa absolutely can't be scum unless three person scum team.

I am very reasonably not scum unless I was a ninja roleblocker and for some reason there are 4 prs in a 9p

[Dwlee99]

I think prism died because it's the only way meg even lives to D3