In post 448, Datisi wrote:why is umlaut on that list and why am i *not* on that list?
Because you aren't scum?
I thought I made that stance clear when I unvoted you.
I was explaining thought process in 404, thought most of your points in 409 were fair. I didn't really wanna be redundant and basically say "fair" to just about everything
In post 421, shiki wrote:which, if we think cape and i are particularly similar players, then this is likely slightly +mafia for cape,
I wouldn't say we play similarly and dunno exactly were you get that from. Like if you just got that from like 423 I would say that it's pretty flawed and doesn't seem like, all that uncommon so like ?
In post 436, Umlaut wrote:Pretty sure it's just Looker, for lack of any other plausible options.
Maybe
Datisi but I've found his play pretty towny, particularly today: there is just no scum motivation for them as scum who didn't bus to come out with good arguments that scum was not busing. And as for Cape I don't believe he just sits there no-voting at end of day when his buddy is on the chopping block.
VOTE: Looker
I am ngl to you, I just wasn't there. So argument against me is flawed
In post 448, Datisi wrote:why is umlaut on that list and why am i *not* on that list?
Because you aren't scum?
I thought I made that stance clear when I unvoted you.
I was explaining thought process in 404, thought most of your points in 409 were fair. I didn't really wanna be redundant and basically say "fair" to just about everything
you didn't exactly make that clear. unvoting me on day 1 doesn't mean that you magically townread me, just that you're re-evaluating on your points. (i usually wouldn't assume, but that is what you said.) also, you had more problems with my slot than just the weird bugs/enchant vote, so...
and the 404 post read to me like you were still sus of me, but maybe that's just me.
and about umlaut?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
if you joined to play with dorsey, is there a reason you didn't seem invested in determining dorsey's alignment yesterday? (other than limited time)
Because I wasn't going to vote her. I killed her as scum last game so I figured this one would be better, but I mean the writing was kind of on the wall.
In post 171, Dorsey wrote:Only players I haven't seen really criticized are bugspray and Cape (other than Looker's hate crime)
weren't people calling bugs scummy? and do you have an opinion on those players? (or like, anyone not named shiki)
I do, but I doubt it'll be helpful or I would have given it already. But here goes...
Vander...I've only seen them protect Shiki and OMGUS me
Jacket...I like them but didn't want to broadcast it because they said they townread me. I was trying to emulate their reaction testing with Shiki but I don't have as many posts.
Bug...Doesn't really say much. I know you said people were calling them scum, but I didn't see much reaction.
Cape...I don't see a really telling connection with anyone. (They had unvoted Jacket but Micc just didn't catch it - had to get that off my chest)
Wheels/Datisi...Please don't make another cult. LGW struck me as a background character and I don't know what made them leave.
Looker...Minimal iso with vote shifts. I'm biased towards this behavior because I do the same thing unless I'm replacing in and there's already content.
Shiki...I don't agree with everything the slot says, but I'm okay with believing for now that a slot wouldn't be so effusive if they didn't believe what they were saying.
Umlaut...Thought the E-1 was weird. Also leery of the pass given to Datisi for perceived contradiction or "madness", but I think that's just because I'm leery of Datisi.
Also if I kind of squint at this and let my confirmation bias run rampant then the 'read' on Looker is pretty weird and seems like excuse to townread them without claiming there's anything particularly towny about them (Dorsey is 'biased toward' players who... don't post much?)
How is that different from Cape90 or Datisi
In post 445, Vanderscamp wrote:Between looker and Datisi, I think it's a pretty easy decision to vote Datisi. Datisi has been townier, and I think looker's analysis post of likely partners and likely buddying was probably bad enough to lose its "analysis" title, it was just a sequence of posts without any kind of clear thought progression behind it.
It's almost as if they were notes and not analysis.
In post 417, shiki wrote:for cape, when the wagons were 2 dorsey 2 cape 2 bugspray(enchant) did cape/dorsey behave as though they needed the wagon on enchant/new wagon?
Thought never crossed my mind by the way
it was hard for me to determine much from this as jacket moved to bugspray and yeah
In post 421, shiki wrote:which, if we think cape and i are particularly similar players, then this is likely slightly +mafia for cape,
I wouldn't say we play similarly and dunno exactly were you get that from. Like if you just got that from like 423 I would say that it's pretty flawed and doesn't seem like, all that uncommon so like ?
i guess i get that from a lot of things; like you asking dorsey why they had the thought about the game with no scum slots, how you seem to be constructing a model of the thought processes at times, your post about the 'good posts made by mafia', and the case on datisi
though i think there are differences of course (you seem to be a much better communicator than i am, and most of your logic seems to be more based in reality)
but i feel like there are similarities in approach that maybe aren't super common
but also maybe they are or maybe they are not all that similar or maybe they are outweighed by other factors
if you joined to play with dorsey, is there a reason you didn't seem invested in determining dorsey's alignment yesterday? (other than limited time)
Because I wasn't going to vote her. I killed her as scum last game so I figured this one would be better, but I mean the writing was kind of on the wall.
What do you mean by this?
I don't think the writing was clearly on the wall at all.
I don't think the writing was clearly on the wall at all.
Spoiler: It was for me
In post 108, Looker wrote:Thank you for the birthday wishes! I think Galron might be scum; he doesnt seem excited enough. I've been stalking him for three games straight and now that we're finally on the same player list, he's silent. Disclaimer: I have not yet looked at other games of Galron's to see if he's an emotive poster. I also do not claim that Galron is fond of me. I am simply conceited.
I felt the same way about Dorsey. She wasn't even speaking to me, even though she was the first person I referenced. And then the ridiculousness happened and I dropped off to avoid further outrage. She also spoke more the last time we played together.
In post 436, Umlaut wrote:Pretty sure it's just Looker, for lack of any other plausible options.
Maybe
Datisi but I've found his play pretty towny, particularly today: there is just no scum motivation for them as scum who didn't bus to come out with good arguments that scum was not busing. And as for Cape I don't believe he just sits there no-voting at end of day when his buddy is on the chopping block.
VOTE: Looker
I am ngl to you, I just wasn't there. So argument against me is flawed
I think not being there is still kind of town at that point, in that you would be invested enough to make time to be there if your buddy was about to get offed on day 1.
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,
In post 436, Umlaut wrote:Pretty sure it's just Looker, for lack of any other plausible options.
Maybe
Datisi but I've found his play pretty towny, particularly today: there is just no scum motivation for them as scum who didn't bus to come out with good arguments that scum was not busing. And as for Cape I don't believe he just sits there no-voting at end of day when his buddy is on the chopping block.
VOTE: Looker
I am ngl to you, I just wasn't there. So argument against me is flawed
I think not being there is still kind of town at that point, in that you would be invested enough to make time to be there if your buddy was about to get offed on day 1.
But he wouldn't know that unless he was there in the first place, right?
The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2022-02-08 17:00:00).
Dorsey (2) -
Vanderscamp, Umlaut
Cape90 (2) -
Looker, Jacket
Enchant (1) -
Dorsey
Jacket (1) -
Enchant
Umlaut (1) -
Datisi
Not Voting (2) -
shiki, Cape90
whoever isn't voting, i would strongly recommend you vote, as we have less than 8 hours left, and no claims. out of the current top wagons, i'd vote dorsey but i am not thrilled about it. my preferences for votes is probably?? umlaut > looker = enchant > dorsey > vanders > jacket > cape > shiki
While I was there this was about the VC we had minus the Umlaut vote Datisi had IIRC.
Dorsey was still quite the possibility with this wagon formation
In post 467, Enchant wrote:Also, with Loyal Cop down, i consider:
1. We have roleblockers
2. There's no worthy TPR so we can skip claiming and blast everyone.
Hard disagree with #2, soft disagree with #1 (maybe there's a roleblocker but I wouldn't call it a foregone conclusion)
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,
