Open 844 – Cults With Guns [Endgame]

[Cook]

Datisi (1): Enchant, wavemode
Wavemode (1): Datisi

With 6 alive it takes 4 to reach a decision.
The new deadline is (expired on 2022-02-18 14:50:42) because of the rep-in.

the worst replaces Korina.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm not feeling the dats cult vibe here, ngl. Low interest/energy maybe

who are you and what have you done to flea

I read you wrong in pretty much every single game we're in, and the vibe is difference.

I sttg dats if you're cult here amma be mad

[Datisi]

the worst replaces Korina.

quack

duck save me they're tryna kill me

[wavemode]

"avoiding the thread" lol i am not about to waste half an hour of my life explaining to scum why they're scum. nobody else asked.

...huh? you really have zero interest in explaining your *own* case? against what you truly believe is the last remaining cultist? why not?

[Datisi]

yeah, i have zero interest in explaining to who i think is scum why they are scum.

[wavemode]

okay. you're functionally admitting your case is a fabrication and even you don't believe it. thanks for confirming

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Wavemode

Bad take is bad.

[Flea The Magician]

i mean exactly what i said. your questions towards fua are hot air designed to make you look unaligned. you're not going through a thought process while asking them, they're not guiding your thinking, you're asking them for the sake of asking questions. which part is unclear?

Dats already covered their bit, and while I need to look better at the sequence in question, I'm thinking its right here - thanks to your frankly cruddy manipulation

[wavemode]

so, you stopped reading the thread? my questions was, okay, what exactly in anything I said indicated that? I'm reading my own questions and the thought process is pretty clear. is it not?

[wavemode]

then he said he needed to comb through for that. then I said take your time. now he's claiming he just doesn't want to anymore

[wavemode]

if he didn't feel the need to explain at all, he would have said that from the get go. we wouldn't have had this whole back and forth to start with

what happened instead is, he gave vague explanations. then I asked for specifics. then now he's like "well i don't need to explain anything to you." hmmm okay

[Stephen A Smith]

has duckie replaced into yet another scum slot

[Stephen A Smith]

the silence is deafening

[Flea The Magician]

so, you stopped reading the thread? my questions was, okay, what exactly in anything I said indicated that? I'm reading my own questions and the thought process is pretty clear. is it not?

I missed a good chunk I'll admit, my healths been crap. Shit happens. I've been reading bits, i've gone over Dats ISO knowing that I have a 100% misread rate on it to date.

I've read the sequence of posts from the one I quoted.

Your process isn't clear to me, and honestly your 233 also seems garbled to me ngl.

So I'll ask what has already been asked. Why should Dats explain to you, why it thinks you're cult?

Your 235 is crap, if I'm entirely honest. There's been a number of times I've gone into something raring and ready to look at it and just go "Ya know what. Shove it. I don't have the spoons/spell slots to do this, I'm not explaining to you when you're using fallacies and exaggerations. Just be yeet." as this is what I see you doing.

You've used a number of exaggerations and false interpretations, I don't think you've hit a fallacy yet but something tells me you're good enough at this to avoid hitting those.

[Datisi]

i'm townreading flea and i am scared because i also have a very shite read rate on fae

[wavemode]

Why should Dats explain to you, why it thinks you're cult?

I can't make heads of tails of this question. if he's town and he actually thinks I'm scum, why would his goal not be to explain his reasoning so people will want to vote with him? why would he just throw out something vague then shut down when asked for specifics?

I asked, what, a half dozen questions to fua? and none of the posts were long at all. you could probably read through it all in around 60 seconds. he couldn't point to a single point of actual evidence for his claims?

and I've been in a similar scenario before. in cul-de-sac mafia I led an elimination wagon on a scum, then their last remaining scum partner, as a desperation play, tried to come after me and argued the whole thing was just an elaborate bus. then when asked for specifics, could not really back up why they would even think such a thing. so, you talk about experience? I've experienced all this before. It's very obviously coming from scum

[wavemode]

Your 235 is crap, if I'm entirely honest. There's been a number of times I've gone into something raring and ready to look at it and just go "Ya know what. Shove it. I don't have the spoons/spell slots to do this, I'm not explaining to you when you're using fallacies and exaggerations. Just be yeet." as this is what I see you doing.

this is baffling to me. where were the fallacies, the exaggerations? I was asking him very simple questions, and accused him of nothing. why should it have frustrated him so much to be asked for simple specifics?

"your scum because I think your posts seemed fake"
"okay, what in my posts seemed fake to you"
(no response)

that's town? really?

[Flea The Magician]

Why should Dats explain to you, why it thinks you're cult?

I can't make heads of tails of this question. if he's town and he actually thinks I'm scum, why would his goal not be to explain his reasoning so people will want to vote with him? why would he just throw out something vague then shut down when asked for specifics?

I asked, what, a half dozen questions to fua? and none of the posts were long at all. you could probably read through it all in around 60 seconds. he couldn't point to a single point of actual evidence for his claims?

and I've been in a similar scenario before. in cul-de-sac mafia I led an elimination wagon on a scum, then their last remaining scum partner, as a desperation play, tried to come after me and argued the whole thing was just an elaborate bus. then when asked for specifics, could not really back up why they would even think such a thing. so, you talk about experience? I've experienced all this before. It's very obviously coming from scum

If he's town, and thinks your scum you are right in that town is owed an explaination for that read.
While I get yeah interrogate the peeps SRing you - pretty sure my counter tunnels are becoming legendary at this point - if it believes that you are going to twist and manipulate whatever he says then it's well within its rights to refuse to deal with you.

I skimmed those posts about your fua interactions, probably more null than scum for me if I'm honest - but I can see what he's getting at. That's not where my read comes from though.

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Your 235 is crap, if I'm entirely honest. There's been a number of times I've gone into something raring and ready to look at it and just go "Ya know what. Shove it. I don't have the spoons/spell slots to do this, I'm not explaining to you when you're using fallacies and exaggerations. Just be yeet." as this is what I see you doing.

this is baffling to me. where were the fallacies, the exaggerations? I was asking him very simple questions, and accused him of nothing. why should it have frustrated him so much to be asked for simple specifics?

"your scum because I think your posts seemed fake"
"okay, what in my posts seemed fake to you"
(no response)

that's town? really?

Meanwhile on this very page, at a time not so long ago...

yeah, i have zero interest in explaining to who i think is scum why they are scum.

okay. you're functionally admitting your case is a fabrication and even you don't believe it. thanks for confirming

Exaggeration and wilful missed reinterpretation of what was said with a hint of undermining as a whole.

[the worst]

hello friends

[the worst]

has duckie replaced into yet another scum slot

obviously, such is my obligation

[Datisi]

quack

[the worst]

Well regardless.

Either Stephen is not Cult Leader, or real Vig will shot him. So can be left alone.


I PROBABLY SHOULD WARN:

INNOCENT CHILD, IF YOU EVEN IN DANGER OF ELIM, CLAIM BUT DON'T REVEAL

. This protects you from danger of converting.

Does it though? Like I've played cult before. Cult strips the ability to IC if it's not fired.

VOTE: Enchant

What? Isn’t that a cult-oriented response? Why would you want the IC to confirm in the first place?

I think Enchant was saying leave room for reasonable doubt, not whatever you just stated.

Lean away from this being a s/s interaction weakly and I think enchant is kinda likely to be town at this point

if i was a dayvig id dayvig datisi (sorry dats ilu)

[Datisi]

it's ok i'd dayvig you too

[wavemode]

Exaggeration and wilful missed reinterpretation of what was said with a hint of undermining as a whole.

I get that you didn't like 235, sure. though to me 235 is an accurate interpretation of what's gone on here

but no, I'm talking about *before*. you said it's natural for him to not want to answer questions in the face of fallacies and exaggerations. but, when I was asking him questions, when did I ever make a fallacy or exaggeration? is "can you go into more specifics about your case" a fallacy or an exaggeration? I had not yet voted him nor accused him of anything at that point, I was just asking questions

[the worst]

Fua's nonreaction to my vig claim is highly cult indicative

VOTE: Fua