Mini 2265: Bears with Guns 2: Pandamonium game over

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: csf

CSF being counterwagoned does not surprise me.

[JacksonVirgo]

so you're outing my action because you don't believe there would be 4 town prs in a 13p game?

as for JV, he should've died by now if he was going to. math's role says it happens next night

They should have. But they didn't. My guess is that the kill was stopped by someone, and I don't think that someone was

MathBlade

.

The pool of town PRs is narrowing. It is very highly doubtful that the role which stopped the kill is a town role. There is, of course, the possibility that

MathBlade

lied or withheld the information that he unpoisoned

JacksonVirgo

, but he nor town wouldn't have gained anything from doing this. Which is why my vote lands here.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Can’t add my two cents as I am just as clueless. Only possibility is Math either had a last minutr change of heart or I die tonight.

[wavemode]

math's flip confirms it should've happened last night

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

[Greeting]

so you're outing my action because you don't believe there would be 4 town prs in a 13p game?

as for JV, he should've died by now if he was going to. math's role says it happens next night

They should have. But they didn't. My guess is that the kill was stopped by someone, and I don't think that someone was

MathBlade

.

The pool of town PRs is narrowing. It is very highly doubtful that the role which stopped the kill is a town role. There is, of course, the possibility that

MathBlade

lied or withheld the information that he unpoisoned

JacksonVirgo

, but he nor town wouldn't have gained anything from doing this. Which is why my vote lands here.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Can’t add my two cents as I am just as clueless. Only possibility is Math either had a last minutr change of heart or I die tonight.

I am very sorry, but mechanically it just doesn't make sense for you to be town.

If you're town, you should have died last night.

MathBlade

's role clearly indicates that it works on the following night and I simply refuse to believe he would have cancelled the action without informing town of it.

[Greeting]

StrangeMatter

, I hear you regarding

wavemode

. But I think

JacksonVirgo

is mechanically extremely likely scum.

We know of the following town PRs in this game:

IT Specialist

-

momo

Motion Detection-targets a player to learn if any actions were performed on or by that player
Check Communications-targets a player to learn if they have a communications network (private topic)
Establish Communications-targets a player to establish a communications network (private topic) with another player

Veterinarian

-

MathBlade

Quarantine-this ability prevents a player from posting in the game thread the next day phase however it will create a neighborhood topic between you and your target for that phase.
Purification-stops the effects of poison.
Poison-poisons a player. The poisoned player will die the night after e.g. Jingle is poisoned night 2 but doesn't die until night 3.

???

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StrangeMatter

In my experience, there hasn't been more than 4 town PRs in a 13 player setup. Which means that there is 1 up to 2 town PRs left in the game, yours included. Now, how likely is it that either of these roles can unpoison a poisoned player? And how likely is it that there is a mafia counterweight to this role?

If we assume that it is a mafia counterweight role which unpoisoned

JacksonVirgo

, the only logical conclusion is that they unpoisoned him because he's scum. They have no reason to do it if he's town. If there are 3 scums (and I think that it's extremely unlikely for there to be more than 3), an extra townie dying during Night 2 brings them closer to victory and effectively makes Day 3 ELo (5-3, misvote gives 4-3, therefore the game results in a likely scum victory Night 3). And, as of today, we are at 6-3, which is not yet ELo.

[JacksonVirgo]

Is this LimLo? If so Ill fight back otherwise just elim me and I can prove first hand why Math was biased and that I needed to die for this exact reason

Then kill CSF and get a scum flip

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: CSF

[Toogeloo]

I have side eyes for Mala for allowing MegA to self hammer.

[JacksonVirgo]

Where I did not expect MathBlade to actually die, considering the heat they were getting. I think it might actually mean that their main counter-wagon (CSF) might actually be less likely to be scum?

[Enchant]

I have side eyes for Mala for allowing MegA to self hammer.

With 30 minutes before deadline?

[Enchant]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

I don't want to vote with Toog, and unless some unpoisoner claims...

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually, I feel like this is better.
VOTE: Enchant

That vote was just awful, irregardless of me wanting to die.

[Enchant]

Nice shapegoating.

[JacksonVirgo]

What is shapegoating, I am aware what scapegoating is, is it the same?

[JacksonVirgo]

Thing is, I've been painfully aware of my need to die for a very long time. I kept pushing that for a very serious reason, and now that this is one elimination from LimLo, I know that if I die it would mean that we are given no more mis-eliminations for wiggle room or experimentation and at this point I trust nobody to actually follow through with any decent read.

Math should have just killed me.

[JacksonVirgo]

@Toog

, do you see what I see regarding CSF being less likely to be actual scum? Less likely, but still likely to clarify my stance.

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait no we're essentially forced to eliminate me here.

If I am actually poisoned as we speak, if we eliminate Town here. That's three town effectively dead. I am assuming 3 mafia just like the previous iteration of this game, 9 players alive. That's 3v6. 3 town dead means we lose.

VOTE: JV

This is objectively what we need to do because Math did a stoop and didn't kill be fast enough.

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait no we're essentially forced to eliminate me here.

If I am actually poisoned as we speak, if we eliminate Town here. That's three town effectively dead. I am assuming 3 mafia just like the previous iteration of this game, 9 players alive. That's 3v6. 3 town dead means we lose.

VOTE: JV

This is objectively what we need to do because Math did a stoop and didn't kill be fast enough.

By Town I obviously mean a Town that isn't me.

[JacksonVirgo]

And don't you fucking dare wiggle out of this one. If you try, you are scum.

[Enchant]

What is shapegoating, I am aware what scapegoating is, is it the same?

You trying to kill me like you trying to CSF as well.

Toog is your blatant teammate with these comments. Idk who is others though.

GG ez.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

I get to channel my inner Not_Mafia.

[JacksonVirgo]

What is shapegoating, I am aware what scapegoating is, is it the same?

You trying to kill me like you trying to CSF as well.

Toog is your blatant teammate with these comments. Idk who is others though.

GG ez.

No you are just mentally inadequate to read any further than surface level in addition to weak throwaway association reads which are the easiest to bullshit without flips to back it up, either that or just scum which I am inclined to believe alongside CSF.

Pre-edit:
Now we wait for my town-flip.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

[StrangeMatter]

Oh ffs.

[JacksonVirgo]

Can't wait to yell at MathBlade in the grave.