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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:51 am

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My friends have a seven year old who just started collecting Pokemon cards without actually knowing what they're for so I've finally gotten into the game I avoided all my life in favor of Magic to try to teach him. I've been looking through the cards and it looks like there are plenty of dumb jank decks to be made just like I enjoy doing in Magic, which is perfect since I'm playing a child and don't want to try too too hard to win. So I'm gonna talk about fun cards I find here, maybe you play too and can join me.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:12 pm

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FO Moltres seems fun for a mill deck. Weird to see mill in fire as a Magic player but burning decks sounds fun. Just gotta play around charging it up, probably stall as long as possible and try to win in one shot.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:13 pm

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I'm scanning chronologically and not familiar with any meta ever or any obvious counters to any of the cards or strategies I will be discussing btw.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:54 pm

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RO Dark Machamp seems fun for winning by clearing your opponent's bench. Fling until only one is left and then use something like JU Pidgeot's Hurricane to bounce it to hand for the win.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:35 pm

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i haven't played in a long time but i ordered a pair of duel decks to play with my roommates tomorrow. I used to play the standard format a little bit with a tier 2 deck.

"Donk" (no bench or active pokemon victory) strategies are not very prevalent in standard because they release lots of basic pokemon that give you a benefit when you bench them, so if you try a donk strategy you generally only succeed in investing lots of resources into generating an awkward moment when the pokemon that is meant for utility is forced into play and that player has to spend 1 energy to retreat it, when you spent like, 3 energy and an evolution card and a bunch of deck design decisions. If the cards you're playing with are strictly limited to old stuff that was out when I was 8 like those pictures though, I remember donk being super strong when I was 8, and there weren't that many utility pokemon when i was 8, so like, I don't see why it's a strategy that would get countered by accident.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:38 pm

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i'm also like 60% sure donk was a big deal when i was reading the forums for the game but i decided not to buy cards for it, like, 10 years ago

god i feel old
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:17 pm

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In post 4, Isis wrote:i haven't played in a long time but i ordered a pair of duel decks to play with my roommates tomorrow.
That's what I did! I got Rayquaza V vs Noivern V, he picked Rayquaza.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:19 pm

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In post 4, Isis wrote:"Donk"
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:24 pm

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In post 4, Isis wrote:"Donk" (no bench or active pokemon victory) strategies are not very prevalent in standard because they release lots of basic pokemon that give you a benefit when you bench them, so if you try a donk strategy you generally only succeed in investing lots of resources into generating an awkward moment when the pokemon that is meant for utility is forced into play and that player has to spend 1 energy to retreat it, when you spent like, 3 energy and an evolution card and a bunch of deck design decisions. If the cards you're playing with are strictly limited to old stuff that was out when I was 8 like those pictures though, I remember donk being super strong when I was 8, and there weren't that many utility pokemon when i was 8, so like, I don't see why it's a strategy that would get countered by accident.
This sounds like more of an issue with those moves that lure a specific Pokemon out from the bench?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:31 pm

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G1 Erika's Dragonair's Take Away seems like a poor alternative to Fling.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:34 pm

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Particularly considering the things I would be pairing the Machamp or Dragonair with ie some form of Pidgeot probably is already colorless so I could afford the colored Machamp. I think.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:38 pm

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As does G1 Sabrina's Gengar's Call of the Night. Pain Amplifier looks fun though.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:58 pm

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Lt. Surge's Treaty seems like it might find a place in a deck aiming to collect prize cards directly which sounds fun but obviously it's not going to get you there by itself. Also maybe a good filler card overall as a non supporter that replaces itself.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:05 pm

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Minion of Team Rocket seems like a poor alternative to Pidgeot when like you need
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I feel like clarifying (again?) that all of these judgements are specifically in the context of my jank.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:21 am

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What on Earth is the deal with G2 Blaine's Charizard?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:35 pm

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In post 6, Ythan wrote:
In post 4, Isis wrote:i haven't played in a long time but i ordered a pair of duel decks to play with my roommates tomorrow.
That's what I did! I got Rayquaza V vs Noivern V, he picked Rayquaza.
i think thats what i have sitting on the kitchen table rn
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:45 pm

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In post 14, Ythan wrote:What on Earth is the deal with G2 Blaine's Charizard?
It has a typo replacing fighting for fire energy, but it wants you discard all the fire energy cards attached to it and deal 20 damage for each. Then, also, since combing Double Colorless energy with pokemon powers that make Double Colorless Energy count as "double fire energy", it has some awkward text in order to instruct you to discard those too and to clarify that they're worth 40 and not 20
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:45 pm

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also it's a terrible pokemon card
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:51 pm

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I guess G2 Giovanni's Meowth's False Charity would be appropriate for a mill deck? I hate putting cards into my opponent's hand but filtering out trainers has got to help.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:28 pm

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In post 15, Isis wrote:
In post 6, Ythan wrote:
In post 4, Isis wrote:i haven't played in a long time but i ordered a pair of duel decks to play with my roommates tomorrow.
That's what I did! I got Rayquaza V vs Noivern V, he picked Rayquaza.
i think thats what i have sitting on the kitchen table rn
this was wrong i have gardevoir v victini
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:31 pm

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Can't wait to hear how that goes/went!
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:55 pm

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It's dumb to consider using Imposter Professor Oak when your opponent is under seven cards to shrink their deck right? After typing it out I'm more certain the answer is yes.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:56 pm

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I mean maybe they're holding onto something and you can get rid of that.

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:02 pm

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Obviously this would be part of a larger mill deck supporting more dedicated cards.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:25 pm

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Challenge! technically also pulls cards out of your opponent's deck but like five at most.
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