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Post #134 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:02 pm
Postby fireisredsir »
In post 132, Dwlee99 wrote:Town mailman is a role that depends on the strength of its user. It isn't useless though even without further role mechanics. Consider, for instance, that you can send someone breads on the night you die.
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Post #146 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:10 pm
Postby fireisredsir »
In post 143, Dwlee99 wrote:Fireisred isn't really solving and prism is like idk kinda townie and ceph seems like he doesn't hate his existence right now
what in the first 52 posts of the game do you think was solvable
In post 143, Dwlee99 wrote:Fireisred isn't really solving and prism is like idk kinda townie and ceph seems like he doesn't hate his existence right now
what in the first 52 posts of the game do you think was solvable
In post 34, VP Baltar wrote:Zero points for claiming ascetic. that's basic moves.
I could just pick this post instead idk I'm right about what I said
its the fact that you said it and the example you gave doesn't support it. that makes me think you just pulled up his iso and grabbed a post that you thought supported your argument to add to your evidence pile. but if it was a genuine read then there was some actual post out there that informed that read, and you would have found that one instead
Nah. You catch scum D1 in a game like this by looking for people acting awkward. Especially in a game with lots of killers like this, scum will have a hard time finding a rhythm immediately. They will misread intentions and try to act natural. There is a whole artiface to D1 as scum where you need to get in the flow.
well if thats the case, then i think you're the one who feels the most awkward and having a hard time finding a rhythm
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Post #386 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:48 am
Postby fireisredsir »
In post 353, Datisi wrote:okay i think i get what my subconsciousness was trying to tell me
skitt's fight with baltar *really* reminds me of the fight she and i had very early on in the recently finished large normal where she wanted to pick a fight with me early but it's wasn't going exactly right so she kept being like "but guys look how scummy is datisi being look!!!" and like
this is very very much reminding me of that
this is interesting cause i thought the same, except about her fight with dwlee. especially the way she pretty gently let them off the hook over not very much with a kind of "meh, thats good enough"
idk if I still think that but it is a thought that i had at one point
47 felt strange to me, there's no elaboration of what post she didn't like or why, which felt more like scum working for the sake of looking like working than town solving. im sure she would be capable of coming up with a reason not to like a post, but its about where her motivations were in posting that in the way she did
which is way more explanation than a page 2 scumread really deserves, but thats what you get. after that i didn't love the way she let dwlee off the hook but at the time i was more sus of dwlee. and then after that i started liking her more and liking the people that were pushing her less
@ fire - what is your confidence level in being able to tone read me accurately?
i think they're saying me chainsawing for skitter bc i scumread you and dwlee. which tbh you could apply that narrative if you're assuming me or skitter's alignments, so shrug. it's wrong but i only know that cause i know im town
ive never played with you as scum so not very high. i don't think a toneread is exactly accurate, although there are some tone elements. but it's also about what you're choosing to say, not just about how you're saying it
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Post #447 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:56 am
Postby fireisredsir »
my only completed games with dwlee are with town dwlee so i don't have a great feel for what is AI for them, but my impression from their town games is that there are specific things that stand out strongly to them and inform their reads
but i can see a world where they do that as town too
none of my reads are terribly strong at the moment tbh
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Post #457 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:01 am
Postby fireisredsir »
skitter feels mostly like the skitter im used to, but i have 2 completed games with skitter and in both she was scum. so. i don't know really if im seeing scum!skitter here or just skitter bc i currently do not have enough data points to distinguish those two
i do not think that being logically correct = town skitter, so no I don't think that's ridiculous dwlee
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Post #479 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:18 am
Postby fireisredsir »
In post 476, Aristeia wrote:i do want to note I have seen Dats fumble around with his vpb read at semi-elo for a week when VpB was blazingly obvtown so I am not surprised he doesn't have one as of yet.
In post 601, VP Baltar wrote:So that seems off for prism to instead assume he's town bcause he didn't read the sample PM.
i think this is a misinterpretation
what is your interpretation.
enchant made a joke about how they were scumslipping by calling the role pm green
the town role pm was blue
there was a sample pm posted by mod, which was blue
prism says that enchant doesn't know to make that joke as scum bc that would mean they would need to have read the mod post and seen the blue sample pm
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Post #657 (isolation #57) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:11 am
Postby fireisredsir »
In post 654, VP Baltar wrote:This seems like a pedantic argument. Anytime we are getting to using single words in quotes, we have probably skewed too far from a good faith interpretation of what's being said.
that sounds like something that sounds nice but doesn't really apply to the current situation
like i don't think the fact that there is one word in quotes there has anything to do with the point being debated