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[Gamma Emerald]

Can he not always dismiss me or call me scum for one game? I was extremely respectful the last game we played. I'm done with being insulted.

I feel like he was being alright in 2238 but you treated him like crap that game
also, I think with the context of his check on me his approach to you seems way more sensible then you're willing to give him credit for. you soft pushed his gunsmith inno for a good chunk of today. Me and math just had a game where I kinda tripped scum!him up by allowing him to dig his own grave pushing my traffic analyst inno.

I'm too angry to discuss this rationally but I never treat Math like crap, but have moved to policy eliminate him because he is frequently wrong and bad.

If you’re too angry to discuss this rationally please move elsewhere.

You have Scorpious scum locked
Carca and Dwlee town locked
The hood town locked

This means your PoE is tiny yeah?

Talk there please. That PoE is where we can see who responds to what.

titus doesn't have the hood townlocked, because JV is hood and titus thinks he's scum

[Dwlee99]

I also was townreading Titus without the claim and she is most certainly town now

[Carcalilly]

Continuing on its 7/10 * 6/9 * 5/8 * 4/7 = approx 16.666%

16% for picking 4 people and they all end up Town. What relevance is this particularly, I fail to see what you're trying to portray.

If you follow the prior conversation I found it suspicious Carca wasn’t pushing in the hood. The odds are overwhelming that there is at least one scum in the hood. I could be wrong about Titus specifically (I doubt it) but Carca not wanting to poke in the hood feels fishy. The previously presented math was flawed and annoyed me so I corrected it.

Won't fight math with the math person. I'm not allergic to the hood, I just don't feel particularly driven to nuke it. Frankly I completely forgot JV was a part of it.

Given the narrow scope of > 80% odds of a scum in the hood I would rather elim in the hood and jail outside of it.

We either hit scum and likely temporarily soft clear some players or we hit town and then can use these results towards finding the scum in the hood.

It’s hard to follow why you wouldn’t want to poke at me or JV or Italiano?

Is it because you’re scum with Titus?

Like, be my guest clearing that out, I won't cry over a Titus or JV elim. It feels redundant to explain indifference. I'll throw my pokes in if someone in there gives me a reason I care enough about to, cuz rn I'd feel like dart throwing.

And why aren’t you trying to resolve that indifference? The whole point of being town is scumhunting.

Why aren’t you doing more to make it not dart throwing? Asking questions or examining relationships?

Poking me as I am in the hood, asking Italiano things?

How do you scumhunt? Do you have a town game?

My meta is approx 3 years old, gl finding anything in there. But, from what I remember, I've never been a big poker. More of a thoughtpuker.

That, and I've had my focus on other dynamics. The fact that the hood had like 4 lurkers made it real easy to forget about lmao. I don't think anyone else besides you has brought it up like this, at least for a while.

I am not the first person in the game to discuss scum in the hood wth?

I didn't say that. Reread.

Last time there was hood theoretics it was in D1 twilight, page 34. Mixed views. Saw the reasoning in both sides.

Longest thread of replies. Interpret as you will, but actually

read

the damn thing and you'll see what I mean.

[Titus]

Can he not always dismiss me or call me scum for one game? I was extremely respectful the last game we played. I'm done with being insulted.

I feel like he was being alright in 2238 but you treated him like crap that game
also, I think with the context of his check on me his approach to you seems way more sensible then you're willing to give him credit for. you soft pushed his gunsmith inno for a good chunk of today. Me and math just had a game where I kinda tripped scum!him up by allowing him to dig his own grave pushing my traffic analyst inno.

I'm too angry to discuss this rationally but I never treat Math like crap, but have moved to policy eliminate him because he is frequently wrong and bad.

If you’re too angry to discuss this rationally please move elsewhere.

You have Scorpious scum locked
Carca and Dwlee town locked
The hood town locked

This means your PoE is tiny yeah?

Talk there please. That PoE is where we can see who responds to what.

I have. You've ignored it. So you get grumpy Titus.

Screw deadline, I must leave for a few hours. Phone tying, tilt, work and I want to write my new novel.

[JacksonVirgo]

Titus are you merging me and Maths reads? Because I fail to see how our reads align as if I am kissing their ass.

Answer please

@Titus

[Crescent]

It's... Interesting.

The people Math most wants to kill are the people who are jumping out front to defend Titus and try to kill Scorp anyway.

[geraintm]

No one other than me at the time of posting.

No one defending Scorp means probably town.

Scum make a ton of noise when I s.

i am pretty sure i said i did not think scorpious was scum earlier today

[MathBlade]

What did mathblade's claim have to do with scorpious at all? And I really don't think jailkeeper has gun to gunsmith but I'm gonna double check

Jailkeeper has had a gun before. It used to. Hence me thinking Scorpious town.

Iirc it came up in the mini normal that I was in with DkKoba recently and they are the mod.

[Gamma Emerald]

does anyone have a meta analysis on how JV plays scum/town? I think he might be a decent elimination but I want to be sure about it

[Dwlee99]

vengeful should investigate positive to gunsmith, yes? if so that should be on the gunsmith wiki page. question is raised as well for detective, alien (ray gun pew pew), traffic analyst (idk?), babysitter (i..... dont suppose they are shooting the baby but they can kill), informed (what if the word "gun" is in the information? :0 :O :0 )

also raises the question as to whether vengeful and babysitter give positive results to psychologist.

Vengeful and detective both should have guns definitely; babysitter, if I understand the role, should as well; alien would only have one if jailkeepers did but we decided a long time ago that jailkeepers don't, so aliens don't; informed definitely doesn't; no clue on traffic analyst.

Last time mentioned in normal guidelines is Mastina saying jailkeeper doesn't get gun

[Crescent]

Ger did pretty clearly say he wasn't "going anywhere near" a Scorp vote today at some point.

[MathBlade]

Can he not always dismiss me or call me scum for one game? I was extremely respectful the last game we played. I'm done with being insulted.

I feel like he was being alright in 2238 but you treated him like crap that game
also, I think with the context of his check on me his approach to you seems way more sensible then you're willing to give him credit for. you soft pushed his gunsmith inno for a good chunk of today. Me and math just had a game where I kinda tripped scum!him up by allowing him to dig his own grave pushing my traffic analyst inno.

I'm too angry to discuss this rationally but I never treat Math like crap, but have moved to policy eliminate him because he is frequently wrong and bad.

If you’re too angry to discuss this rationally please move elsewhere.

You have Scorpious scum locked
Carca and Dwlee town locked
The hood town locked

This means your PoE is tiny yeah?

Talk there please. That PoE is where we can see who responds to what.

titus doesn't have the hood townlocked, because JV is hood and titus thinks he's scum

She screamed masonry every few minutes and the JV scumread seems anger fueled whatever her alignment versus an actual read.

[Meuh]

No one other than me at the time of posting.

No one defending Scorp means probably town.

Scum make a ton of noise when I s.

i am pretty sure i said i did not think scorpious was scum earlier today

You did, and explicitly said you didn't want to lim them today.

[Crescent]

....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?

[Carcalilly]

It's... Interesting.

The people Math most wants to kill are the people who are jumping out front to defend Titus and try to kill Scorp anyway.

I tried to dig on why the hell Math hardcounterd a scorp elim in every way. There's so little understandable logic in it, I tried to find some, but no.

[MathBlade]

vengeful should investigate positive to gunsmith, yes? if so that should be on the gunsmith wiki page. question is raised as well for detective, alien (ray gun pew pew), traffic analyst (idk?), babysitter (i..... dont suppose they are shooting the baby but they can kill), informed (what if the word "gun" is in the information? :0 :O :0 )

also raises the question as to whether vengeful and babysitter give positive results to psychologist.

Vengeful and detective both should have guns definitely; babysitter, if I understand the role, should as well; alien would only have one if jailkeepers did but we decided a long time ago that jailkeepers don't, so aliens don't; informed definitely doesn't; no clue on traffic analyst.

Last time mentioned in normal guidelines is Mastina saying jailkeeper doesn't get gun

It used to. #oldDudeProblems

[Crescent]

Ger did pretty clearly say he wasn't "going anywhere near" a Scorp vote today at some point.

But I actually don't remember him specifically saying Scorp was "town", just that voting him was pointless outside of getting him to full claim..

[Meuh]

....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ic_Analyst

[Carcalilly]

As I said earlier Gamma doesn’t make that hammer as scum. Claims Gamma would are false.

I don’t see scum!Scorpious coming up with a claim strategy like that with tons of ways that could backfire as scum.

Was it the fact that it was a D1 hammer, or is it the way he did it? Like, does he just not hammer in general as scum? Because iirc the MM wagon was way past it's end at that point, it was the last day or two and everyone was expecting it so it wasn't that big of a deal imo.

The highest point of strategy in scorp's claim was the "crumb". The rest of it was a mess. The whole disparity of saying they've never crumbed on this site makes me believe they wouldn't do it as town or scum.

Town!scorp narrative would be they crumbed purposefully for the very first time this game, probably with intention to use it when claiming, screwing up the softclaim for ??? reason, survives a NK and only then finally decided to use the crumb placed.
Scum!scorp narrative would be scrambling to imply TPR to save from the pressure, then fake the crumb with first letters of completely arbitrarily numbered posts. Like if it was every xth post I would have no doubts it wasn't just convenience.

I'm low-key occam's razoring this.

Scum scorp if fake claiming woulda likely been guiltied by now.

I very highly doubt this is Scorpious scum. Considering the fact you sheeped gamma a scumread onto the wagon. Dwlee sheeped your bad/fake reads and Dwlee is good enough to call out you missed a player and that’s like the whole wagon.

Carca isn’t even with you but is saying things like Occam’s razor when the simplest explanation is Gamma hammered because Gamma thought it was right and the time and Scorpious is just bad town.

If you need that many words it’s not Occam’s razor.

Guilty'd? Like investigated?

Dwlee and I didn't "sheep" anyone. I think the thread has it clear that we both had our own motives. I even voted before gamma, so either I'm completely misinterpreting what you're saying, or you have the entire narrative wrong.

I'm pretty damn sure it can be played either way. Gamma hammered because the day was over, sure. I fail to see how it's as AI as you make it out to be. Scorpious is flailing scum. Every step can be adequately justified as such. Does "bad town" justify the crumb/softclaim progression? Maybe, but way less imo.

Like, call me a straight up idiot here if I am, but when you do just please explain to me how the hell do you be THIS sure of a town!scorp??

[geraintm]

Combined two shot gunsmith with an inno on Gamma.

I am a combined doctor and neighbor.


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I’m an even night JK

Im just parking these here so i can keep track of claims

[JacksonVirgo]

does anyone have a meta analysis on how JV plays scum/town? I think he might be a decent elimination but I want to be sure about it

....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?

I believe it's someone who gets a positive result if their targets communicates outside of the main chat.

Such as mailman, or neighbourhoods, or mafia chat. But not restricted just to night chats (as mailman is a positive result)

[Crescent]

....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ic_Analyst

...Isn't that just the PT cop people were talking about earlier?

[JacksonVirgo]

I was gonna make a joke about the meta analysis on me but chose against it.

[JacksonVirgo]

....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ic_Analyst

...Isn't that just the PT cop people were talking about earlier?

PT cop is just night chats. Neighbours/Mason/Mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

does anyone have a meta analysis on how JV plays scum/town? I think he might be a decent elimination but I want to be sure about it

....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?

I believe it's someone who gets a positive result if their targets communicates outside of the main chat.

Such as mailman, or neighbourhoods, or mafia chat. But not restricted just to night chats (as mailman is a positive result)

yeah this
but it also can't see people who have a night chat that doesn't have anyone else in it