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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:33 am

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In post 24, Ausuka wrote:Help and octopus
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:03 am

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Round 4There’s 1 remaining mafia

Spoiler: day 1 early votecount
[3] Bard: Ranger,
Warlock
,
Druid


[2]
Druid
: Cleric, Bard

[2]
Warlock
:
Paladin
, Rogue

[2] Not voting:
Fighter
, Barbarian

With 9 alive, 5 votes to eliminate

Spoiler: day 1 final votecount
[5]
Druid
: Cleric, Barbarian,
Warlock
, Bard, Rogue <--- HAMMER

[3]
Warlock
:
Paladin
,
Fighter
,
Druid


[1] Barbarian: Ranger

Not voting: No one

With 9 alive, 5 votes to eliminate

Spoiler: day 2 early votecount
[2] Cleric:
Fighter
, Ranger

[1] Barbarian: Rogue

[1] Ranger: Barbarian

[1] Rogue: Bard

[2] Not voting: Cleric,
Warlock


With 7 alive, 4 votes to eliminate

Spoiler: day 2 final votecount
[4]
Warlock
: Barbarian, Cleric,
Fighter
, Bard <--- HAMMER

[2] Rogue:
Warlock
, Ranger

[1] Barbarian: Rogue

Not voting: No one

With 7 alive, 4 votes to eliminate
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:10 am

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Spoiler: official guess
cleric

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i feel like it's either cleric if scum is half-decent or bard if they're nooby
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:36 am

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Spoiler:
rogue, if not rogue then ranger
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:14 am

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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:57 am

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Spoiler: Analysis
Day 1, I was thinking Barbarian, but had Barbarian left on Day 2, Rogue could have been eliminated instead of Warlock. Cleric, Rogue, and Bard all look like possible answers. Rogue was on Warlock Day 1 until more joined, but that could just be unlucky town. Warlock is on Rogue during Day 2, but Rogue is off. In that situation, it would make sense to bus as Rogue, but this one's hard for sure. I wanna say Rogue is just town.

Cleric and Bard both have chances, but Cleric being earlier on day 2 warlock has me lean Bard for bussing, but in a way where they felt they had to rather than wanted to.


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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:08 pm

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Spoiler: Guess
Cleric
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:59 pm

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Spoiler: guess
bard
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:52 am

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been sick, will return :]

The right answer was
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cleric
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:38 pm

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My guess is
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cleric.


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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:38 am

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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:18 am

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i totally didn't just sheep Dats ^^
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:10 pm

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y'all this is very embarrassing I cannot find the newbie game that the last round was based on

you'll just have to trust me ig
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:22 pm

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round the next1 mafia left

Spoiler: day 1 final
Pow
(5):
Splash
, Boom,
Crash
,
Bang
,
Tink
[HAMMERED]
Squeak (1): Blorp
Splash
(1):
Tink

Crash
(1):
Pow

Not Voting (1): Squeak

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.


Spoiler: day 2 final
Bang
(4): Boom,
Splash
, Blorp,
Tink
[HAMMERED]
Tink
(1):
Bang

Blorp (1):
Crash

Not Voting (1): Squeak

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.


Spoiler: day 3 final
Tink
(3):
Splash
, Blorp,
Tink
[HAMMERED]
Not Voting (2): Squeak, Boom

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:23 pm

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My takeaway so far is datisi and ausuka are pretty good at this, on average. If they were both in a game and agreed on a vca case on someone, I'd sheep it
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:24 pm

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Spoiler:
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:30 pm

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Spoiler: guess
Blorp?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:59 pm

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Spoiler: guess
Squeak looks like lurker scum and Tink had a guilty on them.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:00 pm

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Spoiler:
boom
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:05 pm

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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:32 pm

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In post 38, Irrelephant11 wrote:Splash, Boom, Crash, Bang, Tink
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:15 pm

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guess i'm making before seeing anyone else's:
Spoiler:
i think it's blorp

boom is unlikely due to the fact they were at the front of two misyeet wagons (and scum is generally more self-conscious than that, AND i'm not sure why tink would be hammering if their buddy was driving the wagons), and squeak ending all three days by not voting is odd for a buddy, especially if tink was about to get caught. i feel like squeak!scum would've been pushing other townies on d1 and d2, and be on the front of the bus on d3.

blorp also fits with the above idea - on d1 there was a wagon on a townie, blorp ended the day voting a different townie. and i feel like they'd be trying to earn towncred by bussing on d3.

In post 39, Irrelephant11 wrote:My takeaway so far is datisi and ausuka are pretty good at this, on average. If they were both in a game and agreed on a vca case on someone, I'd sheep it
interestingly enough, i never use vca in games. or rather, never use further than "idk this wagon feels kinda bad". i've rarely actually gotten good results from vca in game.

something that i have been thinking about for a while (which also sorta applies to replacements in a game) is whether it's better to make decisions with limited information than with "all" information available.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:05 am

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Spoiler:
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:56 pm

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In post 47, Datisi wrote:guess i'm making before seeing anyone else's:
Spoiler:
i think it's blorp

boom is unlikely due to the fact they were at the front of two misyeet wagons (and scum is generally more self-conscious than that, AND i'm not sure why tink would be hammering if their buddy was driving the wagons), and squeak ending all three days by not voting is odd for a buddy, especially if tink was about to get caught. i feel like squeak!scum would've been pushing other townies on d1 and d2, and be on the front of the bus on d3.

blorp also fits with the above idea - on d1 there was a wagon on a townie, blorp ended the day voting a different townie. and i feel like they'd be trying to earn towncred by bussing on d3.

In post 39, Irrelephant11 wrote:My takeaway so far is datisi and ausuka are pretty good at this, on average. If they were both in a game and agreed on a vca case on someone, I'd sheep it
interestingly enough, i never use vca in games. or rather, never use further than "idk this wagon feels kinda bad". i've rarely actually gotten good results from vca in game.

something that i have been thinking about for a while (which also sorta applies to replacements in a game) is whether it's better to make decisions with limited information than with "all" information available.
This is a good mentality

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