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[fireisredsir]

yes its a joke i don't think its actually difficult for him to make it

[fireisredsir]

i got to the part where datisi is saying std looks like coalition std

still feels weird to me for that to be partnered but i can also see the angle of "please explain to me why my scumbuddy is actually town" and then being like "ok those reasons are not bad, actually"

[fireisredsir]

the reason its weird is that i feel like it looks a lot like tmi for datisi to be like "yes this feels exactly the same as when std bussed in coalition and also i didn't really read his posts there" because its a very surface level take where scum would know that objectively it is similar and that maybe to an outside observer it doesn't actually look that way at all, so continuing to insist that it is looks kinda weird

and i just kinda think datisi would feel self-conscious about making that kind of point??? but maybe not? idk

[fireisredsir]

while reading ive noticed that most of the times where I felt him being towny were actually just him engaging directly with datisi. so maybe they just were really comfortable doing theatre with each other and had fun doing it and made that a focus

it really feels not at all similar to coalition tho, rereading their fighting with each other there. std felt so lifeless in that

[fireisredsir]

it's believable tho that pengu was just like "yea bus me" whereas in coalition datisi did not really want to die there

[catboi]

Vote Count 6.01

Looker (1):

Enchant

Not Voting (2):

fireisredsir, Looker

With 3 alive, it's 2 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 6 is August 21 at 11:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-08-21 23:00:00)

[fireisredsir]

datisi with just zero progression whatsoever on george and then voting mala in 1834 to tie the wagons at 3 is just absolutely awful and i can't tell if it's bc all wagons were on town and he didn't care how it looked or if it's bc it's actually as bad as it looks

[Enchant]

Datisi taked mostly neutral approach with me if you notice.

Idk if that's because i started blaming him for hammer, because he didn't unvote when i tried hammer. Twice.

[fireisredsir]

datisi with just zero progression whatsoever on george and then voting mala in 1834 to tie the wagons at 3 is just absolutely awful and i can't tell if it's bc all wagons were on town and he didn't care how it looked or if it's bc it's actually as bad as it looks

him outsourcing his read on you to implo while knowing that implo believes himself capable of finding you as scum is probably not very partnered

[fireisredsir]

he did give up on std scum really easily and never really went back there or explained why, even tho std got significantly scummier starting d3

[Looker]

O nice

[fireisredsir]

i think most of his d2 feels p uninformed in multiple ways and he would have to be intentionally making the choice to play suboptimally for the purposes of faking that which seems high-risk to me. maybe he'd go for it but i don't see why it would be necessary

oh yea, not really relevant anymore but this was about how i didn't think he would really want to push for a lim on wagon when it seemed like all the masons were on it and he probably wouldn't really want to be the one to push a mason just for the sake of looking uninformed about where the masons were, since it was very unlikely to result in an actual elim

[fireisredsir]

i am very Concerned about page 101 and datisi not letting things move towards enchant

[fireisredsir]

ig it does benefit him if he's with std bc im basically saying "enchant flipping town will convince me that i have things wrong"

whereas flipping andante still leaves open the option that i push enchant/ss the next day

[fireisredsir]

and enchant flipping scum actually would probably make the next two elims andante and ss, at which point datisi survives to 3p elo

[fireisredsir]

I am like lowkey kind of paranoid that fire/andante/enchant are all LHF town and the reason this game feels slow is because scum are very well positioned and don't have to do anything but coast to win

this is probably just right

[fireisredsir]

well we'll probably find out if that's the case tomorrow based on the flips

im slightly worried about that possibility too but like, that's why i want to flip enchant. either im right on my poe and enchant is scum, or someone is being very tricksy and flipping enchant will tell us which one is the case

and like i say this right after

which gives scum datisi a lot of reason not to flip enchant even if enchant is town

[fireisredsir]

Unpopular opinion.

BOTH Fire and Andante is Town somehow...?

ok and you want to vote out Datisi in the world where you/fire/andante are all town?

Mmm.

Yeah?

this sequence of posts tho... and the fact that this then led to datisi slipping into manipulative mode to stop this from happening and keep things on andante which led to me suspecting him

it just seems like datisi started to panic a little bit when he woke up and saw this going on and i don't see why he has that reaction if enchant is his scumpartner here

[fireisredsir]

looker also still hasn't even voted lol

[fireisredsir]

it is still surprising to me that datisi would both kill on wagon and also try to push on wagonstart of d2 if his partner was on wagon

but it could be wifom or maybe they genuinely somehow did think vp was mason

idk im not gonna bet the game on that but it is strange to me

[fireisredsir]

pushing off-wagon immediately is easy. sticking to my guns about eliminating on-wagon is easy (either i'm not listened to and the town starts eating each other, or i am listened to and confusion arises as townflips happens and the low-hanging-fruit is alive).

this feels like trying to fake tmi that his partner wasn't on wagon

[Looker]

I wanted to be the one to win the game with that moment of "O shit you're town" but it's not in the cards.

[Looker]

Re:the not voting. I legit wanted to be like "not hammering" after a vote and watch the reaction

[Enchant]

Reaction of who.

[Looker]

Everyone. Remaining town player, dead thread. I need validation and praise in my life.