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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:13 am

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If you need further reason why I'm a bad vote, BTW: Enchant was obvious scum to me. Pushing him out of the game the way I did is very stupid if I'm SK, as that just gets the attention of Mafia on me. Even with a BP, it's bad play.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:17 am

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Sell me on Gamma SK?
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:18 am

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I think Gamma is pretty strongly in his town meta but that doesn't necessarily translate across SKness. I don't feel like he's been particularly trying to avoid a NK (Although I'd value BP as a choice over Invest-Immune as an SK in this setup)
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:21 am

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In post 1616, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Gamma's play looks very SK-like if that's a thing? Kind of floating by in the game without doing much pushing or drawing too much attention?
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:22 am

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In post 41, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Malakittens
You’re not getting away from me!
This would be funny if Gamma was SK after Mala died N1
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:23 am

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Gamma also scum read Furtive and Furtive was killed
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:23 am

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I have put zero thought in whether Gamma or CSF is more likely to be SK. Only BT struck me as being aggressive/out-there that made me think he's not likely as SK.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:29 am

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...huh. Mafia could have hit Gamma N1 I suppose
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:24 am

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Gamma Emerald (2): BlueBloodedToffee, Lucian
Infinity 324 (1): Aisa
Aisa (1): Infinity 324
Lucian (1): Klick

Not Voting (3): Gamma Emerald, Hiraki, Cat Scratch Fever

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination and 4 to secure a no-elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-07 09:55:49).
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:31 am

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In post 1619, Lucian wrote:I'm ignoring the possibility of them both being Town because in that case, fuck this game.

Look at how both Infinity and Aisa have been playing after their claims. Who strikes you as more likely to be scum there?
Yeah I vastly dislike this
This feels like his main concern is avoiding a Doc loop.That would be why his reason for disliking the plan Klick came up with.
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:33 am

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In post 1624, Lucian wrote:VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:36 am

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In post 1632, Klick wrote:...huh. Mafia could have hit Gamma N1 I suppose
What team would shoot me? Pretty sure I had called Dunn town a couple times by then.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:26 am

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i still think csf is a lot more likely to be sk than anyone else, the only reason i didn't want to pursue her is because of her role in the enchant elim
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:31 am

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I want a few others to check in, I'll weigh in with my thoughts tonight
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:33 am

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VOTE: csf

despite our immediate reaction to the cc, i think aisa is probably town. 2.7% isn't really the probability of having 2 doctors, since the only other option is a specific setup. it's still unlikely, but probably the world we live in.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:40 am

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In post 1639, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: csf

despite our immediate reaction to the cc, i think aisa is probably town.
2.7% isn't really the probability of having 2 doctors, since the only other option is a specific setup
. it's still unlikely, but probably the world we live in.
This doesn't matter right now, but for future reference I'm pretty sure Lucian's calculations already take into account the fact there are only two possible setups (or only a few possible setups).

I ran my own calculations assuming that DDDDMVT and DDMVTTT are the only possible setups and got a 1.96% probability of DDDDMVT and 98.04% of DDMVTTT.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:55 am

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ok i got 4% but you're probably scum somehow anyway
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:57 am

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P-edit: I can respect that reasoning Infinity
In post 1634, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1619, Lucian wrote:I'm ignoring the possibility of them both being Town because in that case, fuck this game.

Look at how both Infinity and Aisa have been playing after their claims. Who strikes you as more likely to be scum there?
Yeah I vastly dislike this
This feels like his main concern is avoiding a Doc loop.That would be why his reason for disliking the plan Klick came up with.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:32 am

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In post 1566, Klick wrote:If we don't hit SK, Mafia has to shoot in our elim pool for the SK, and SK has to either shoot between the doctor and scum, or risk their kill not going through on conftown.
Doctors only stop 1 kill, are you accounting for that? There's no incentive for Mafia to shoot in elim pool when they and sk can just force any kill through.

The kill target is just going to be whoever Aisa is supposed to heal.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:34 am

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In post 1569, Klick wrote:Actually I'd like to see a plausible explanation from anyone for either Infinity or Aisa fakeclaiming Doctor today as scum.
What would've been a better claim from infinity?
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:42 am

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In post 1643, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1566, Klick wrote:If we don't hit SK, Mafia has to shoot in our elim pool for the SK, and SK has to either shoot between the doctor and scum, or risk their kill not going through on conftown.
Doctors only stop 1 kill, are you accounting for that? There's no incentive for Mafia to shoot in elim pool when they and sk can just force any kill through.

The kill target is just going to be whoever Aisa is supposed to heal.
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:43 am

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In post 1644, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1569, Klick wrote:Actually I'd like to see a plausible explanation from anyone for either Infinity or Aisa fakeclaiming Doctor today as scum.
What would've been a better claim from infinity?
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:45 am

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In post 1643, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1566, Klick wrote:If we don't hit SK, Mafia has to shoot in our elim pool for the SK, and SK has to either shoot between the doctor and scum, or risk their kill not going through on conftown.
Doctors only stop 1 kill, are you accounting for that? There's no incentive for Mafia to shoot in elim pool when they and sk can just force any kill through.

The kill target is just going to be whoever Aisa is supposed to heal.
Doesn't that also make the SK and mafia pool very obvious and limits their choices?
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