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[Firebringer]

Same here, if you're town and we're scum we just quick hammer this.

repeating my same point before.
ur both not posting much.

Scum should be going for quick hammers on this. They had opportunities. The fact they aren't shows that they either are playing super cautious or are never on at the same time to do it and can't agree on a time and or just didn't think of it because they are just not caring.

They could have done this for like 4 days to quick hammer the auto win divulgence. I am pretty flabbergasted by it. Ez win.

Anyways yes if RR is town, scum should just quick hammer so if its you and bella, just tell her a time to get on and do it. It isn't hard to coordinate this

[Firebringer]

Otherwise we can assume at least one of them is scum.

feels like an attempt to get me to cross vote for radical.
which im not interested in right now.

tell me do you think other scum is bella or not because just reading last two posts its like ur open to whatever seems plausible for a conclusion in which you can vote who you like

[RH]

Day 6 Option II

Depart

(-2) - Radical Rat

Not Voting

- Firebringer, Bellaphant, Not_Mafia, Roden

Day 6 Target II

Firebringer (-2) - Radical Rat

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Firebringer, Not_Mafia, Roden

Day 6 PR II

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Firebringer, Not_Mafia, Radical Rat, Roden

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 5 remaining, it takes 3 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-09-01 08:08:54).

[Radical Rat]

Otherwise we can assume at least one of them is scum.

feels like an attempt to get me to cross vote for radical.
which im not interested in right now.

tell me do you think other scum is bella or not because just reading last two posts its like ur open to whatever seems plausible for a conclusion in which you can vote who you like

To what end though? If Roden's scum, and you're Town, why does he care whether you vote me or not?

[Roden]

VOTE: divulge

It was nearly three days since Galron voted Divulge. It's just not realistic or feasible to believe a a scum team can't quick hammer that. And a scum team can be inactive in the main thread but still be talking in their PT.

[Roden]

Otherwise we can assume at least one of them is scum.

feels like an attempt to get me to cross vote for radical.
which im not interested in right now.

tell me do you think other scum is bella or not because just reading last two posts its like ur open to whatever seems plausible for a conclusion in which you can vote who you like

The other scum could be Bella, but it could just as easily be NM since I've thought his slot was scummy for most of the game. Rat isn't ruled out as scum either, tbh it's kinda wild that you don't seem to be considering that when you haven't been quick hammered yet. Like why is it more likely that scum is just slow and not playing than scum just voting you?

Hell, if I'm scum and you're town, I don't think I even need to coordinate with anyone here. NM just quick hammers if I vote you now. Yes, even in ELO, I've seen him do it before.

[Firebringer]

Otherwise we can assume at least one of them is scum.

feels like an attempt to get me to cross vote for radical.
which im not interested in right now.

tell me do you think other scum is bella or not because just reading last two posts its like ur open to whatever seems plausible for a conclusion in which you can vote who you like

To what end though? If Roden's scum, and you're Town, why does he care whether you vote me or not?

Radical ur not new....don't u know scum want as many options as possible in ELO. Roden made that post with like "ohh then its confirmed its fire or RR" leaves self to vote either of us without directly calling us out to make a direct enemy of us.

VOTE: divulge

It was nearly three days since Galron voted Divulge. It's just not realistic or feasible to believe a a scum team can't quick hammer that. And a scum team can be inactive in the main thread but still be talking in their PT.

Then why isn't ur logic concluding hard that I am confirmed scum? It can't be RR then right?! It has to be me at least. Also by the logic deployed it could still be RR and me, but you specifically pointed out one of us has to be scum in previous post.

[Firebringer]

Hell, if I'm scum and you're town, I don't think I even need to coordinate with anyone here. NM just quick hammers if I vote you now. Yes, even in ELO, I've seen him do it before.

Id love for you to test this theory. I think NM only does that if he was scum here.

[Firebringer]

it's kinda wild that you don't seem to be considering that when you haven't been quick hammered yet. Like why is it more likely that scum is just slow and not playing than scum just voting you?

(1) Because since ive joined its been days between post replies for everyone here except NM
(2) I don't feel RR has scum vibes. Could be wrong but I feel RR is the one person here sorting.

[Radical Rat]

It does definitely feel like scum is too nervous to make a move right now, but I don't fully understand why?

Like, if I'm right and you're scum, I'd have expected your partner to just bus you by now? Surely they can see the ship is sinking and the only chance they have is to jump. But if I'm wrong, there's no reason for there not to have been a quickhammer on either this or Divulgence. Doesn't even really need to be a "quick" hammer, scum could just drop the votes casually and still get away with it here.

So... What's the deal, where are they, what are they afraid of?

[Roden]

Otherwise we can assume

at least

one of them is scum.

feels like an attempt to get me to cross vote for radical.
which im not interested in right now.

tell me do you think other scum is bella or not because just reading last two posts its like ur open to whatever seems plausible for a conclusion in which you can vote who you like

To what end though? If Roden's scum, and you're Town, why does he care whether you vote me or not?

Radical ur not new....don't u know scum want as many options as possible in ELO. Roden made that post with like "ohh then its confirmed its fire or RR" leaves self to vote either of us without directly calling us out to make a direct enemy of us.

VOTE: divulge

It was nearly three days since Galron voted Divulge. It's just not realistic or feasible to believe a a scum team can't quick hammer that. And a scum team can be inactive in the main thread but still be talking in their PT.

Then why isn't ur logic concluding hard that I am confirmed scum? It can't be RR then right?! It has to be me at least. Also by the logic deployed it could still be RR and me, but you specifically pointed out one of us has to be scum in previous post.

You're either not reading my posts or you're just being obtuse on purpose. You literally quoted my post where I said

at least

one of you has to be scum. I emphasized up above as well in case you did miss it. I think it's possible that you're both scum and that Rat could be bussing you here.

I'm assuming you didn't read over the game or go through my ISO, because I town read your slot and Rat before we went into ELO, in addition to Bella. My biggest suspicion was on NM's slot for the past few Day phases. But even if I'm right on NM, I still have to be wrong about someone else. And right now Rat is voting you and no one's quick hammered, your slot was voting Divulge and no one quick hammered. The signs point to you being scum, but I'm not 100% confident that it means Rat is town because he could easily just be bussing you here. Something else that's been gnawing at me is that Greeting tried hard to pocket me early into the game, and I feel like Rat has been trying to do the same. Greeting made it clear that he knows my playstyle and in what ways I'm susceptible to getting manipulated, and I'm sure he left some notes behind for the rest of his team.

[Roden]

Hell, if I'm scum and you're town, I don't think I even need to coordinate with anyone here. NM just quick hammers if I vote you now. Yes, even in ELO, I've seen him do it before.

Id love for you to test this theory. I think NM only does that if he was scum here.

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Not quite a hammer but he snap voted with a fake guilty as town in ELO.

I wanna hear from Bella and (hopefully) NM before I vote.

[Roden]

It does definitely feel like scum is too nervous to make a move right now, but I don't fully understand why?

Like, if I'm right and you're scum, I'd have expected your partner to just bus you by now? Surely they can see the ship is sinking and the only chance they have is to jump. But if I'm wrong, there's no reason for there not to have been a quickhammer on either this or Divulgence. Doesn't even really need to be a "quick" hammer, scum could just drop the votes casually and still get away with it here.

So... What's the deal, where are they, what are they afraid of?

I either opened my third eye this game or I need to get on meds again, because I don't understand the confusion you two have over this.

[Bellaphant]

My reads have been awful this game - I think I've been right once. I'm incredibly frustrated at how little the neighborhood was used, all I know is that kitty said she considered it a masonry - (has the other participant claimed yet?)

I think she wanted to divulge galron 'for thread health', but she was non committal about actual scum reads.

[Radical Rat]

My reads have been awful this game - I think I've been right once. I'm incredibly frustrated at how little the neighborhood was used, all I know is that kitty said she considered it a masonry - (has the other participant claimed yet?)

I think she wanted to divulge galron 'for thread health', but she was non committal about actual scum reads.

They haven't, but it's pretty obviously Not_Mafia since it's not me, Roden had to ask if anyone was alive, and Kitty apparently wanted to vote Galron despite also healing him, meaning he must have been excluded from the "masonry"

Not really sure what the point of hiding this was though, since in ELO having that kind of information is important? Especially if you agree with Kitty on it being a masonry

[RH]

Day 6 Option III

Depart

(-2) - Radical Rat

Not Voting

- Firebringer, Bellaphant, Not_Mafia, Roden

Day 6 Target III

Firebringer (-2) - Radical Rat

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Firebringer, Not_Mafia, Roden

Day 6 PR III

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Firebringer, Not_Mafia, Radical Rat, Roden

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 5 remaining, it takes 3 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-09-01 08:08:54).

[Bellaphant]

I was never that sure of frogster and I don't know about nm. I thought it was their info to share though, I wouldn't have liked to have had it been said for me?

[Roden]

Just posting to show I'm online at the same time as Bella and we haven't quick hammered

Side note but NM hasn't posted in three and a half days

[Roden]

Actually, if NM is scum with either me or Bella then we'd probably just ask for a prod in the scum PT, so no combination of the three of us can be scum at this point. NM can still be scum with Fire or Rat, but now we know that at least one of Fire or Rat have to be scum at this point.

[Roden]

VOTE: divulge

In fact, I think if NM is scum then it could only be with the Galron slot. Everyone was online around the same time after Galron voted Divulge here, meaning NM had the time to coordinate a quick hammer with his partner if Galron was town.

[Roden]

VOTE: Depart
VOTE: Firebringer

If Fire is town and Rat is scum then Rat could've coordinated a quick hammer on Divulge with any of NM, Bella, or myself. Scum has zero reason not to take the auto win there, so no quick hammer means scum had to have already been voting Divulge.

[RH]

Prodding Not_Mafia

I forgot to check the Activity Overview. Sorry. I promise that this won't happen again.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Depart

[Bellaphant]

Roden has a point

[Roden]

Had a nightmare after going to bed last night that I threw the game and that the team was somehow Rat + Bella. Also for some reason you two gave NM the PR and he hammered it? It was weird but it reminded me that we still need to heal someone. I kinda don't want anyone to get it since no one's really cleared as Fire's partner, but I looked back at the setup and saw that it's mandatory unfortunately.

No one quick hammered, so unless scum is trolling the game has to continue tomorrow. Who do we think should get it?