In post 1745, Coral wrote:I just don't feel like he ever really engaged with the game on a deeper level. I did, and I did it badly and came to the wrong conclusions, but I tried.
show me where you engaged with the game on a "deeper level". if it's in the hood point me to it there
I mean, that phrasing is probably bad, because you might see it differently. But I'm talking about his reasons he had about why you're town. And his reread of day 1 in 1553. It just feels really surface level to me. I don't get the feeling like he really tried to get in there with anyone and try to figure out their alignment. When I did my analysis of day 1, I felt like I went deeper. And when you responded, I engaged with you, tried to sort you, and I think at least that my posts show that I was thinking carefully about all of these different possibilities and the things that you said
i don't know. i kind of worried he was playing both sides for a while, for a lot of this phase and it was part of why i was doubting him. but ultimately he did reach a conclusion.
i think my previous answer still applies - you getting annoyed because coral is pushing you is a very dangerous thing to be trying to capitalize on because you've shown in the game to be able to correctly townread people despite of it
and if i were to try that, i would probably come up with better reasons to do so? because scum-me would be aware that you'd be on the lookout for that sorta thing, and i would have to have better arguments that wouldn't be relying on your emotions or wtv
like idk how else to say that i've just been saying things in this yeetlo that came to mind and hoped that they would lead me to the correct solution
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I know that me talking more probably isn't going to help. But I feel like if we lose this game it's my fault, so I want to try. Sorry if I seem irrational.
okay, i set myself a timer and i don't want to risk looking away and the deadline expriring. two points in my mind
1. Datisi's posting after the fake-vote on him from Coral was extremely good. Like, the logic was just absolutely crystalline. He played that extremely well if he was mafia.
2. I don't see him turning around and voting Coral as mafia rather than taking advantage of coral's tunnel on me all phase
VOTE: Coral
if tgis is wrong, i am truly sorry. it is my fault for tunnelng you all game and not being able to find you, not yours.
In post 1752, scamper wrote:i don't know. i kind of worried he was playing both sides for a while, for a lot of this phase and it was part of why i was doubting him. but ultimately he did reach a conclusion.
And I didn't reach a conclusion because a lot of what you said was convincing, and I was genuinely reading it and trying to sort you based on it. It felt like you were trying to solve the game as well, and it felt like Datisi was just waiting. He only reached a conclusion because we forced him to.
In post 1752, scamper wrote:i don't know. i kind of worried he was playing both sides for a while, for a lot of this phase and it was part of why i was doubting him. but ultimately he did reach a conclusion.
scamper
have you ever seen me actually be confident in ANYTHING in yeetlo
i reached a conclusion because i was forced to, but my play was partly made so i could try to find who is trying to win a scum endgame and who is trying to solve. i feel like that's historically been my strongest way of finding scum late game. and that's how i found coral, because her play around the whole "datisi should be voting first thing" was just so utterly off and it seemed designed to get her into the best possible endgame
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
Hi Coral! Welcome to Micro 1059: Micro & Normal Stuff! You are a
Town Informed Neighborizer.
You have the following active ability:
• Each Night you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be added to [REDACTED]. You have access to this PT at all times.
You have the following passive modifier:
• You know additional information about the setup: [REDACTED]
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
Spoiler: Congratulations to…
The mafia team of
Galron (mafia goon) and Datisi (mafia complex cop)!
Hey all! Excited and nervous to play my first game with you!
i have been shaking for the past 3 days, this yeetlo took a few years off my life
thank you very much for modding relly and also screw you for the red role pm
town, you played really well and this was a really difficult game for me. i will probably have more commentary tomorrow as i don't think i'm able to form coherent sentences right now
i need to go catch up on sleep
was a pleasure to play with all of you
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 1053, MegAzumarill wrote:Coral all throughout the game has been very analytical, nuanced, and her thoughts feel really grounded within the game. It's evident that they are trying to solve the game beyond just a surface level to try and appear townie.
I agree with this and it makes me feel a little better about Meg I guess because I feel coral is being pushed by most people and scum Meg is kinda unlikely to take this angle. I know it could be wifom, but the end result is that they are put in a difficult position if they ever need to vote Coral which seems quite likely given their unfortunate position in the game. (Sorry dats if they're the last wolf LMAO)
ftr Coral doesn't feel as hollow as in Eurybia's Curse so I'm good marking her as town
Told y’all Coral was town
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
i think if i had more time to revisit my priors i might have been able to get there because i really felt the evidence pointed toward datisi for most of the day, but the deadline was working against me - or, more accurately, was utilized against me. i let final 3 posting influence me too much when i should know better than that.
gg dats
not really happy with any part of how i played this tbh
and coral fwiw i really do think your whole heuristic for how you attempted to solve the game in f3 is fundamentally flawed and will not lead you to a correct answer in the majority of cases. i realize i probably don't have much room to talk seeing as i am the one who voted incorrectly, but i would strongly urge you to not use that thought process in future games.
at some point though when you made the post about how you keep wanting to explain your thought process when i asked why you were doubling down i went "god, shes just town isnt she". wish i had been able to hold on to that thought but datisi's pivot against you was so well timed and made so much sense that it threw me for a loop.
In post 1770, scamper wrote:and coral fwiw i really do think your whole heuristic for how you attempted to solve the game in f3 is fundamentally flawed and will not lead you to a correct answer in the majority of cases. i realize i probably don't have much room to talk seeing as i am the one who voted incorrectly, but i would strongly urge you to not use that thought process in future games.
Probably, yes! Thanks for the thoughts. I'll try to adjust my thinking in the future. I think my problem was that if I stuck to just, who did I trust believed what they were saying and made sense coming from town... I would still pick Datisi as town
When it came to that situation I felt like I needed a different angle to look at things from because any time I simply read either of your posts I would start thinking that person was town. But you're right that I put too much weight on trying to find a plan or a narrative for the game.
Maybe it's because as mafia I am always hoping that people will read me based on if I believe what I say, because I trust I can fake that, and hoping that they won't look for if I have a plan, because that's what I think makes my scumgame most obvious.
In post 1771, scamper wrote:at some point though when you made the post about how you keep wanting to explain your thought process when i asked why you were doubling down i went "god, shes just town isnt she". wish i had been able to hold on to that thought but datisi's pivot against you was so well timed and made so much sense that it threw me for a loop.
I also had a couple of these moments and nearly got there but never quite managed it. I'd like to believe that if I had one more day I could have, but that's probably false hope
I went back and forth so many times that my progressions were messy and my logic was all over the place, especially when trying to think of who should vote first, and Datisi exploited that very well. I sometimes find it easier to get townread as scum, because I don't need to be honest.
Dead Thread Coral's Neighborhood MegAzumarill's Neighborhood Mod thread
Mafia thread will be opened soon, still giving the opportunity for redactions for about 32 more hours
Setup review PT unfortunately will not be released, as it also contains the next Normal setup I plan to run! Sorry~~
Hey all! Excited and nervous to play my first game with you!
Hey all! Excited and nervous to play my first game with you!
