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[Dannflor]

I feel like I've made the mistakes I made in this game so many times before

it's really disheartening to be like "oh this time I'll learn my lesson" every single time

[Dannflor]

irrelephant is definitely right though. unless the PoE is already correct, which it increasingly feels like it isn't, this method of play of just going back and rereading the game and pulling out quotes does nothing to change anyone's minds. it's an exercise in confbias. the strongest reads i got out of the past couple days were borne out of real time interactins (eg. town read on frogster) but i didn't listen to them because idk

[Datisi]

something something reading is overrated

[Dannflor]

next time im in a quasi-mountainous endgame im gonna refuse to read any other page than the current one

[Irrelephant11]

People are misinterpreting something I said and I can’t explain

[Dannflor]

always the most aggravating feeling

[Irrelephant11]

irrelephant is definitely right though. unless the PoE is already correct, which it increasingly feels like it isn't, this method of play of just going back and rereading the game and pulling out quotes does nothing to change anyone's minds. it's an exercise in confbias. the strongest reads i got out of the past couple days were borne out of real time interactins (eg. town read on frogster) but i didn't listen to them because idk

It’s also worth noting that changing your mind a lot as town can actually threaten scum in a way, even if it gets you to target town. Town will town it up under pressure, and scum have to do a lot more performing when they don’t know which wagons are actually viable. Obviously it can also lead to miselims but yeah… MS’s town meta is really lacking in the real-time pressure arena

[Dannflor]

RC was really good at doing that iirc

[Irrelephant11]

True! One of his best skills imo and a main reason scum hated playing against him

[fireisredsir]

i don't think town gets it right today but there's a solid chance in elo depending on who gets brought in

[Dannflor]

also what's problematic in a game of this size, especially about constantly going back to reread, is that everyone has posted such a huge volume that you can find scummy and towny points about everyone. you're not gonna find the "aha!" moment because there will be dozens of minor scum and town inflections across everyone's ISOs

[Dannflor]

Spoiler: spoiler

I'd bet the game on Ausuka town I think.

[fireisredsir]

I'm not sure how much effort I'm going to give her because I don't really feel confident on figuring out who it is and I also don't even really think limming me is that bad necessarily from a game state perspective because I'll probably be the easiest miselim at limlo anyway tomorrow.

fucking lmao

maybe try caring more!!

[Dannflor]

lol I am really sorry fire

[fireisredsir]

you're good dw about it

[Firebringer]

what was fire doing that was scummy to people. i never got it tbh

[Firebringer]

fire was doing too much of his own thing to be scum. at least thats what i got from recollection of day 1.

[Menalque]

also what's problematic in a game of this size, especially about constantly going back to reread, is that everyone has posted such a huge volume that you can find scummy and towny points about everyone. you're not gonna find the "aha!" moment because there will be dozens of minor scum and town inflections across everyone's ISOs

yeh this is why spamming the game up is bad and Day 1 in a large should be ended within like 60 pages absolute tops

not sure I agree about the not re-reading bit tho. I think that just picking quotes isn't helpful but trying to understand, with flips, what the scum team was trying to accomplish day after day is very helpful, and if you narrativise that it can help to persuade others too. Maybe there's a distinction between elo and endgame approaches tho, but certainly in elo I think I've been right more often when completely ignoring the current game day and just looking back at the game vs trying to choose between two people who are both trying to survive and convince me the other is scum

[scamper]

idk

at some point the density of evidence just becomes too much for anyone to actually get through it all. it's impossible to actually process everything that was said and trying to take it all in becomes draining.

Spoiler:

its just a bummer though. game's already lost and i feel like i have a big stake in that failure even though i at least cleared the right people for the right reasons, its just not enough

i still think realtime interactions etc are supremely overrated tho

[VP Baltar]

at some point the density of evidence just becomes too much for anyone to actually get through it all. it's impossible to actually process everything that was said and trying to take it all in becomes draining.

Sadly, thread spamming in larges is a legitimate scum tactic with the current site meta. I've definitely done it to essentially ruin future days' signal:noise.

[Menalque]

at some point the density of evidence just becomes too much for anyone to actually get through it all. it's impossible to actually process everything that was said and trying to take it all in becomes draining.

Sadly, thread spamming in larges is a legitimate scum tactic with the current site meta. I've definitely done it to essentially ruin future days' signal:noise.

And this is why policy lims should be brought back into fashion

[Menalque]

Spam the thread and make it less readable? You die, that’s it

[Datisi]

policy lim me every game until i stop joining games and actually have a life

[Firebringer]

policy lim me every game until i stop joining games and actually have a life

Denied

[VP Baltar]

Spam the thread and make it less readable? You die, that’s it

glgl