LOST: Dead Thread

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t see who OtH would ever kill me here and leave MB alive tbh.

[Bell]

The only reason I was miselimmed is we thought Titus was our traitor with how bad our reads were.

It almost became a dead sweep.

I am very good at scum because it requires actively listening and then giving people what they want.

But if you’re in a bad spot you manipulate the gamestate and people’s minds.

As outed scum this game left me continue to plan and speak and move chess pieces on the board.

Some assumptions people made are accurate and some I have poisoned the well.

When you see the mafia PT post game there is a key assumption (I won’t say what) that I am not correcting.

Wow, seriously? Why would you even think you had a traitor in this game?

I can’t answer that without spoiling some things sorry.

Mathblade has thought there was a traitor in half or more of the games I’ve been in him with.
Though, I think it makes thematic sense here. Albeit I don’t think that is happening in this game.

[Bell]

Lots of people have thought that about gamma scum. Re: “he wouldn’t do this/say that if he were scum it’s too charged”

[Bell]

tho, Nancy kill bad kill. If oth scum. Agree.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Lots of people have thought that about gamma scum. Re: “he wouldn’t do this/say that if he were scum it’s too charged”

Yeah but we’re friends and he essentially told me to quit playing mafia. I don’t think he exploits my friendship like that.

I also think it would be extremely stupid to kill me here and I also don’t think I die here if OtH is scum. I think my dying looks the worst for BB.

I also think that Noraa was maybe possibly distancing him. We’ll see but BB also didn’t hammer OtH and OtH os also arguably good miselim bait.

RAD’s argument is that OtH killed me for wifom but judging how absolutely no one immediately realized the obvious, that I never kill Pooky here, why should they expext that to work with my death?

[Nancy Drew 39]

tho, Nancy kill bad kill. If oth scum. Agree.

Exactly my point, which is why I don’t think it’s them. I think it’s BB and that’s why we died, because BB probably correctly guessed I would be most likely suspicious of him, because I don’t really think it’s MB based on his interactions with scum and how he called Malcolm posting wrt Johnny, tmi.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma probly shot you cuz he felt guilty about pocketing you

[Nancy Drew 39]

gamma probly shot you cuz he felt guilty about pocketing you

But as Bell pointed out, killing me is seriously dumb. Like you didn’t kill Cakez in PB, why would they shoot me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't feel guilt about pocketing people because I am a sociopath

[ProfessorDrapion]

CSF - No Result
Bella - Wolf
BestBird - No Visit
MisLim - No Visit
Butterflies - No Visit
Blue - Visited Me
Butters (Mason Claim) - No Visit
BestBird - No Visit
Pooky - No Visit

This doesn’t look great for OtH, I admit. But for Gamma to say all of that really hurtful stuff to me as scum, I just don’t think so.

And for BB to tell me to fuck off?

I think if we say those are both town tells them looks like I was fucking played by ML Bait.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I would give credit to them cause vote counts and socially and reads.
ML Bait really looks like town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Nancy you can trash Drap all you want, but you hard defended the Taly slot so aggressively that I felt uncomfortable even considering mentioning it after day 1.

TBF I also hard defended that slot till I 180’ed on them during the last day I was alive.

[MathBlade]

Sorry for the hard buddy Nancy <3

When did you buddy me? DNA claimed you tried to drive a miselim on me in your hood.

Both

I just wanna hug you and Titus and faer so hard.

Like <3

I wonder how this ends

The fact we are at elo after the start is impressive

[MathBlade]

Nancy you can trash Drap all you want, but you hard defended the Taly slot so aggressively that I felt uncomfortable even considering mentioning it after day 1.

TBF I also hard defended that slot till I 180’ed on them during the last day I was alive.

To be super fair I designed it to look like that.

I didn’t have the mental power to save myself but did have the mental power to “obvTown” Taly

So I did that.

[MathBlade]

453,463 for post game reference to this.

Certain alive players are assuming because (x is true) therefore (y is true)

But x doesn’t always necessitate y.

This assumption was “because I was scum” therefore Taly town.

Lots of living players made that assumption.

[Bell]

*stares at Marci’s effort post*

[Rad]

Marci's 15329 is exactly the same kind of post I've made a couple times as scum. You get this idea that you're really going to effort hard and make a great believable case. You start and get like 5 points in and you're like... fuck this and you end it. Her case on MLB ends with a post from Jul 21 cause she loaded that ISO up and started figuring out how each post could be potentially scummy, and then got tired of it (or is legit sick, doesn't matter why) and stopped.

When has Marci ever in this game made a case? I don't remember any.

This isn't real analysis. This is an end game level attempt at trying to present as townie against their chosen target and just saying fuck it.

There's no way you just assume BB is town here if you're town!OTH and you believe the best use of your time is to case MLB's ISO from 2 months ago to find scum and are satisfied with your conclusion after you've read 64 total posts in a 237 post ISO.

[Bell]

*sniffs*

It doesn’t pass the smell test.
I say before being wrong.

[Bell]

In general Nancy, I think if there’s a pattern of a player getting under a player’s skin by escalating/saying stuff that they “would never say as scum” before turning out to be scum. Because it might jeopardize their oog relationships.

You have to ask yourself if you’re an exception to that pattern.
Most people don’t deviate from their patterns unless there’s a good reason.

I’m still not sure if you’re wrong.
I also think that we really shouldn’t lose sight of being in a game of mafia when having these interactions.
I don’t think it’s a good idea to think of oog consequences to in game actions or vice versa.

I’m trying to say an opinion, but I don’t think I’m doing a good job communicating it.

[Bell]

I don't feel guilt about pocketing people because I am a sociopath

Dead eyed bear stare.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would never feel bad about pocketing you because you wouldn't trust me even if I was an innocent child in an open setup

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don't feel guilt about pocketing people because I am a sociopath

Pocketing is fine, it’s telling me to go and “find a new pastime” that is egregious and gross if he’s scum here,

[Nancy Drew 39]

CSF - No Result
Bella - Wolf
BestBird - No Visit
MisLim - No Visit
Butterflies - No Visit
Blue - Visited Me
Butters (Mason Claim) - No Visit
BestBird - No Visit
Pooky - No Visit

This doesn’t look great for OtH, I admit. But for Gamma to say all of that really hurtful stuff to me as scum, I just don’t think so.

And for BB to tell me to fuck off?

I think if we say those are both town tells them looks like I was fucking played by ML Bait.

I’ve been treated horribly by scum before though. FL threatened to bl me for not being good docile miselim bait. Gulliotina accused me of trying to manipulate his buddy with saying something about my mental health and just proceeded to massively shame me for that and most recently Frogodoggo majorly messed with my hydra partner Andante’s head by unfairly accusing her of things like being “abusive”, “flaming” and “gaslighting”, so unless it’s in their meta to be nice as scum like may be the case for someone like Firebringer for example. I don’t put a lot of stock in that but I just have real trouble believing Gamma exploits our friendship to win a scumgame. I don’t know, anything’s possible. If it actually is MB, I’ll be seriously impressed.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Interesting, marci’s pushing MB but idk, wouldn’t MB!scum be most likely to kill BB not us? And I can confirm that MB has absolutely no reason to kill me based off of anything that took place in our pt.

I would just really like to understand why scum!OtH kills us here, because that is so super dumb.

[Nancy Drew 39]

MB hard sr me for mentioning Klick’s Bella tr but forgetting to mention the question mark but confronted me ablit it in our hood. That was awhile ago but I don’t know why scum!MB confronts like that in our hood.

At any rate marci, you’re dead wrong if yoi seriously think some sort of “slip” happened in there.