Datisi's Café [BBT's slumber party]

[Ydrasse]

sk flavor is disgruntled fired employee faking yelp reviews of the cafe

[Lukewarm]

i don't think there's really any world where sk doesn't kill me there

I feel like you needed the SK to be targeting PP. Like, they clearly were shooting into the claimed invests.

But then they likely kill you the next night, unless they are voted out this day phase, so :shrug:

[Lukewarm]

i’m still baffled mala would just

post like that as a wolf

tmi as a treat and then not again

(ily mala it just confuses me)

Same, I would not have killed Mala there. Likely would have pushed Fire, so still on scum, but I would not have found scum!Mala

[Lukewarm]

I feel Really Good about my reads this game over all. Like, well above my normal read performance imo.

Was correctly attempting (I said attempting, I know) to shield

Roden

and

Ausuka

(from each other lmao)

Strongest scum read day 1 was

Ircher

Strongest scum read day 2 and 3 was

Titus

Strongest scum read day 4 was

Fire

.

Mala

was not on my radar at all really, so wiffed there

I was most wrong with the

SK

, who absolutely snowed me by looking incredibly unaligned with all members of the scum team, and I did not know I was looking for 3rd party

[Something_Smart]

Fun fact: SK's are not fun for anyone

[Vivax]

Hope that didn't come across as offensive (wasn't supposed to), I like to tinfoil around too much sometimes

did you just accuse them of cheating then try to play it off as a joke?

Why cheating ? Looked like she had a hunch, maybe. Doesn't mean I believe she had to voice it even if it were so. My post was more light-hearted than it might have looked to you.

If not arsonist perhaps 3p poisoner (Ausuka kill looked like 3p kill)

[Lukewarm]

Fun fact: SK's are not fun for anyone

I feel like it was an interesting inclusion in this game, because it was unclear that there was a SK just based on kill counts, but was clear that the math was not mathing after mass claim.

Okay, I think the most logical conclusion is that someone gave an amount lower than -30%. Yeah, a negative number. Because we're literally at a point here where the numbers could only logically have been fudged by one individual, and they can't have been fudged that much without them giving a literal NEGATIVE value for production.

Someone is actively sabotaging our cafe work

jjh was so close to the answer here.

"There is a bonus kill but when we look at the math, there is no way for scum to get to that bonus kill even if there is someone running at 0%"

[Lukewarm]

You wouldn't happen to have known that FG was scum right from D1 at least ?

This is the line that could be read as a cheating accusation -- but if you meant hunch, sure I guess.

[Something_Smart]

I feel like it was an interesting inclusion in this game, because it was unclear that there was a SK just based on kill counts, but was clear that the math was not mathing after mass claim.

But then it still wasn't clear there was a SK. And scum, who knew, couldn't leverage that knowledge to their advantage and got unavoidably screwed.

[Something_Smart]

jjh was so close to the answer here.

"There is a bonus kill but when we look at the math, there is no way for scum to get to that bonus kill even if there is someone running at 0%"

Scum could just have had an ability to grant them a bonus kill separate from productivity. It wasn't possible for anyone non-town to manipulate productivity to give scum an extra kill from it.

[Lukewarm]

I still feel like its inclusion was more interesting in this game then in a hypothetical "standard" mafia game it might exist in, because it was an interesting way the information was disseminated.

Not arguing that it was +fun for all involved, because scum getting killed by a SK is obviously not a fun interaction lol

[Lukewarm]

jjh was so close to the answer here.

"There is a bonus kill but when we look at the math, there is no way for scum to get to that bonus kill even if there is someone running at 0%"

Scum could just have had an ability to grant them a bonus kill separate from productivity. It wasn't possible for anyone non-town to manipulate productivity to give scum an extra kill from it.

Giving scum a bonus kill, unrelated to the productivity mechanic, seems very counter to the design of this set up imo.

Klick's role's wording also makes the 3p option more likely, although he did not claim it until last minute before you died (and then the 3p was revealed soon after anyways)

[Vivax]

You wouldn't happen to have known that FG was scum right from D1 at least ?

This is the line that could be read as a cheating accusation -- but if you meant hunch, sure I guess.

'Guessed' would have been more accurate. I'm susceptible to paranoia in general, but I don't take the game so seriously that I would seek to expose possible cheaters on my own. Just not within my personality, I'm very laissez-faire.

[fireisredsir]

i actually had no intention of getting andres eliminated lol that was a pure trying to grab towncred move, was really surprised to get a wagon

i should have probably just pushed someone that could get elimmed instead tho, i just didn't think that people would compromise onto mala

[fireisredsir]

also i unironically had lots of fun trying to figure out who the sk was

[Datisi]

also i posthumously called fire's flavor claim bullshit and said his associations with titus were bad so uh go me?

I am not sure that the favor claim was all that out there given:

he was a forum mafia player

my role is "discord mod"

"people using the cafe for its free wifi" seems in line with the flavor

for the record, "reddit mod" was a role that i was originally thinking of having as a town role, but then it was cut at some point

the idea of the flavour text was something along the lines of "being a reddit moderator doesn't pay the bills, gotta go an actual real job"

also yes, scum did indeed have flavour safeclaims

that's what mala was informed of (in flavour, she was informed who had already worked in the café before and quit the job, hence the layoffs in the company record books)

[Datisi]

also i unironically had lots of fun trying to figure out who the sk was

i was so offended when you thought i put two vigilantes in the game LMAO

[Datisi]

here's another avatar bet:

by end of d6, guess the sk's flavour

1 week

[Ydrasse]

sk flavor is disgruntled fired employee faking yelp reviews of the cafe

[Something_Smart]

here's another avatar bet:

by end of d6, guess the sk's flavour

1 week

Ted Cruz

[fireisredsir]

also i unironically had lots of fun trying to figure out who the sk was

i was so offended when you thought i put two vigilantes in the game LMAO

hey maybe this was the game made to test whether vigs are positive or negative util

and if you have 2 its a bigger sample size

[Vivax]

here's another avatar bet:

by end of d6, guess the sk's flavour

1 week

Only 1 guess?

CIA agent

[petapan]

anyway i played this so bad for the most part, needed to do something to keep mala alive prob

tbh its not your fault she...wasnt posting

[fireisredsir]

people saying it's a mechanical error to shoot me, my assessment while i was deciding what to do on d5 was that it's correct to shoot me if sk thinks im town but incorrect if sk thinks im scum?

idk if thats right tho

[Datisi]

the issue is that if your role is town, it generates clears, but you yourself are not actually clear. so depends on if they think they can actually get you misyeeted and not have you shrink the poe too much.

if i was sk and thought you were town, i likely would've killed you too