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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:24 am

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Same, but i pretend i did realise.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:52 am

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It might be funny to go back and be like

Actually, did not realize I could hammer
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:37 pm

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and its back!
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:10 pm

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Should i really do it though.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:15 pm

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I think so.

You already suspected Titus and you are a known hammerer
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:25 pm

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It's actually excepted me to hammer only senseble so i will be called out for it.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:31 pm

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I'm not sure I follow.

Titus is at e1 right now, so it would be a hammer
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:32 pm

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I mean i need to survive afterwards.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:32 pm

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You said you thought there was a scum inside of Titus and Math, so it is not even outside of your stated reads
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:33 pm

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In post 207, Enchant wrote:I mean i need to survive afterwards.
If you feel like you shouldn't do it, that's fine.

I just didn't think it would even get you called out, but :shrug:
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:34 pm

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After Titus flip town, i will get heat for it. Surely.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:37 pm

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If you were town would you hammer here?
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:41 pm

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From my pov, since this was your stated gamestate read
In post 3328, Enchant wrote:I strongly have feeling one of them is evil twin as i have concerns that mod puts two doubles of role.
It would not be surprising to see you hammer her
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:36 am

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The issue here, is that you just made a post that discourages Cape or Maria from voting Titus.

If you don't hammer, and neither of them do, then Titus cannot be eliminated.

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I am the most likely next person to get eliminated. I am the only other wagon, and really only Math is town reading me.

Not taking the hammer has made us go from guaranteed both of us making it to elo where we get two shots as getting 1 more miselim inside (toog, maria)

To now, I am a reasonably likely elimination for the day. If that happens, you are on your own for 2 more miselims.

Hopefully Cape decides to just end the day anyways, but we shall see.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:37 am

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If you are not voting for Titus, then I think that maybe you need to lean hard into setting yourself up to end game by voting me.

I doubt anyone would really think that you would give up a hammer on a townie in order to vote your partner.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:38 am

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If Toog moves from Titus to me, or if cape votes me, then you absolutely need to get onto my wagon.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:40 am

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I think that you should either vote titus now, off the back of both toog and math trying to sway you.

OR

You need to vote me.

The choice is yours, but I don't see a better way out of this. You showing restraint there, and then being "convinced" is already better for you then the quick hammer.

If you don't want do that, then you need to be setting up to end game with out me by bussing me now.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:55 am

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In post 3369, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3366, Enchant wrote:As i stated, one is likely mafia, but silent agreement on Titus cuts my nerves now.

Problem is, i don't understand motivation of scumteam at all.
Frog was killed when there was revealed Disloyal Vig and no revealed protectives.

Targeting Frog no matter how he was right Rolecop VS Disloyal Vig no matter how he was jestery is ??? play, unless mafia have way to shut down vig notlethally and they seems to be not. I didn't pay attention on this before, but seems like mafia claiming trully, especially if you want argue Titus!scum who are most likely are rolecop and would't fear other Rolecop. So they have no merit to kill rolecop from role perspective.

Frog needed to be
damn right
to be chosen, instead of loyal vig.


... Or mafia are not competent. Possible. MathBlade is actually competent... But i already was in game, where i blindly townreaded him when mafia made most bullshity claim just to get instakilled, and i was like "oh mathblade would suggest more belivable claim if he was mafia".
Yeah, Math was maf in this one. So while we both think about mech in priority, i have no clue how Math ticks. Even less i know about how Titus tick.

EIther way, i am not hammering yet. Need to think it over.
Enchant, you said it yourself that it is weird that there are so many doubled roles.

Role cop + role cop
Voyeur + Voyeur
Tracker + Tracker

But, there is a distinction in there.

Marci was half of a tracker(even night), and furtive was a third of a tracker(joat with 3 abilities). They combined to like
80%
of a full tracker getting to shoot every night as long as they live.

You are a 1 shot, night 3 voyeur. That added to a full voyeur is not really much in the grand scheme of things. As of right now, on day 4, You + Math =
125%
of a full voyuer shooting every night and that just goes down the longer the game goes on.

But Frog was an ungated rolecop, and Titus has claimed 4 results for 4 nights. They would combine to
200%
of a full voyeur right now. I know titus has claimed to be out of shots, so would be lessening over time. But that would not start lowering until DAY 6!

That is definitely the most overlap of the overlaps.

And it makes more sense to me that scum gets a rolecop then scum gets a voyuer anyways. (both are confirmed to be true claiming their roles by how you handled start of day 4). Rolecop actually is useful for a scum team in this set up, to find the vig / doctor / joat. While voyeur, is just... kinda weak.

I think that this will make us look fairly unpartnered after I flip. Like, I was begging you to hammer in the main thread instead of the mafia thread lol
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:09 am

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Hilarious that i actually have selfdoubt of hammering.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:29 am

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we made it to ELO!!
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:37 am

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we didn't win yet
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:53 am

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Always celebrate the small victories, helps you stay motivated!!!!
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:54 am

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Like, when I repped into this game the scum team was you + 2 empty slots.

The fact that we are walking into 5p ELO is great. Super happy for us, I think you have been an excellent partner
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:56 am

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So it feels like we kill one of cape / math

what are you thinking?
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:58 am

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In post 223, Lukewarm wrote:So it feels like we kill one of cape / math

what are you thinking?
Aren't killing Math leads to my instadeath?
But it would be something notexpected indeed.
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