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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:54 pm

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In post 922, Titus wrote:Guys stop voting please until everyone acknowleges this.

We likely have a firefighter with two clears. There are five alive.

We wagon someone. If no one vouches, we lim them.

Then we get to tomorrow. Arsonist can't have killed.

So gg?

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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:56 pm

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Porkens tried to push me.
And died on this stance.

No way they douse me JUST FOR THIS. Literally, in that case, Porkens would had more luck with... Uh. Anyone else? FF at that moment not claimed.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:58 pm

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In post 943, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 938, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 936, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 930, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 920, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 894, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 891, Enchant wrote:... Eh. I can bet Don Draper was protected from death.

Ircher? lol, no.
Me? lol!
Vander? Did furtive even townread you? I don't remember.
Pretty sure he did, he made a comment during the CC day where he omitted me from the list of Porkens' possible partners, which I thought was kind of strange at the time since I was arguing to not kill Porkens.

Not that it makes me think I was a lock to get saved or anything, but hopefully it helps prove that me igniting last night is not a thing. I already think it's pretty awful but it's not like I would have been afraid of either furtive or bears' reads.
And if it helps, I've played this set as scum before on a different site, I can link the scum chat if anyone wants.
Maybe you should? I think it’s probably Ircher because he was so sure Scrrdbear was FF but Idk.
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https://cassandrawerewolf.com/game/2498153/chat
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In case you can't read it, helpfully, the very first thing I said in the chat was this:
lendunistus Nov 24, 06:04 AM: Hello! You may chat with your teammate here.
lendunistus Nov 24, 06:04 AM: If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here or in your mod chat!
WerewolfHunter Nov 24, 09:46 AM: hello
Vanderscamp Nov 24, 03:07 PM: Yay!
Vanderscamp Nov 24, 03:07 PM: im excited
Vanderscamp Nov 24, 03:07 PM: lets crush
Vanderscamp Nov 24, 03:07 PM: Firstly it seems good to never use the ignite until the last moment
Vanderscamp Nov 24, 03:08 PM: And win there
Treestumps cannot be doused
and Treestumps cannot vote.
Mech was a bit different in that game.
Not really?
Why would you ever douse a treestump?
That would be dumb unless their reads were spot on I guess.

I should probably read some of your MS scumgames but Ircher saying you did it for WIFOM sounds whack to me. I maintain that if town, Ircher was a viable douse, so I think burn last night especially Sccrdbear looks bad for Ircher.
I haven't played many scum games on this site at all, and the one I did play was definitely a meta deviation for me, so your sample there won't be great
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:59 pm

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I might have played more than one but I don't remember it.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:00 pm

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In post 945, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 884, Vanderscamp wrote:Like, what has Ircher actually done that is town, except for presumably bussing Porkens?

I think both Don and Enchant have both clearly at least made an effort, and while I disagree with a lot of what they've had to say, they've at least showed reasonable thought processes and have given passion.

Ircher has not done anything resembling that for the entire game, and him refusing to talk about his reads or his progression of his reads is a massive massive red flag for me.
That was before both of you took Enchant out of consideration.
Enchant isn't out of consideration for me, he's just must townier than Ircher for me.

But why would me taking him out of consideration make you read me as worse than him?
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:01 pm

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In post 946, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:I lean to it most likely being Ircher. However, why couldn’t Enchant have been doused? Pretty much everyone and their uncle - except Porkens and Bear were tr him.
I don't remember this being the case.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:02 pm

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In post 947, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 461, Porkens wrote:Actually that’s wrong. I wouldn’t be happy to eliminate anyone. I have preferences of who I’d like to eliminate but they aren’t based on town/scum reads.

Like: Don Draper x Mistress (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 and Auro)
Love: Porkens
Wary: furtiveglance
Impatient: Herta
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Wary: Ircher
Like: Titus
Wary: Enchant
Tempted: SCRRRDBEAR
I wonder if the bolded means anything? Could that possibly be a slip that I wasn’t doused? But then furtive for sure protected me and probably Enchant as well because both of us were his top two trs.

So yeah, there have been 3 nights of dousing so far and one night of ignition. Scrrdbear and furtive were two, so Idk why furtive would protect you over both me and Enchant?

Like I don’t see how that makes sense, Furtive either protected me or Enchant because we’re his top two townreads.
I don't remember him having enchant as one of his two top town reads (I'm assuming you're talking about early game?) but that could definitely be the case if you're right
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:03 pm

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As usual, nothing Ircher has said has made me want to change my mind.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:04 pm

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Question "Ircher or Vander"? Is invalid to me.

It's more question "Who the fuck from three are atleast one town".
We can execute two people, so it's not problematic. We can as well give Don pass i think (i think) and game solved by killing others. There's other problem.

Who will give ME a pass? Like I can't be sure that Don just decides "Uh Ench blatant scum" and voting me.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:15 pm

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In post 703, Porkens wrote:Enchant/furtive
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:16 pm

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Vanderscamp/Don
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:16 pm

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Don't think it's Ircher
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:25 pm

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In post 961, Herta wrote:Don't think it's Ircher
Why not?
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:41 pm

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In post 960, Herta wrote:Vanderscamp/Don
How you even have me in your pool is a complete mystery to me. So why Vanders?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:42 pm

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In post 956, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 947, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 461, Porkens wrote:Actually that’s wrong. I wouldn’t be happy to eliminate anyone. I have preferences of who I’d like to eliminate but they aren’t based on town/scum reads.

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Love: Porkens
Wary: furtiveglance
Impatient: Herta
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Wary: Ircher
Like: Titus
Wary: Enchant
Tempted: SCRRRDBEAR
I wonder if the bolded means anything? Could that possibly be a slip that I wasn’t doused? But then furtive for sure protected me and probably Enchant as well because both of us were his top two trs.

So yeah, there have been 3 nights of dousing so far and one night of ignition. Scrrdbear and furtive were two, so Idk why furtive would protect you over both me and Enchant?

Like I don’t see how that makes sense, Furtive either protected me or Enchant because we’re his top two townreads.
I don't remember him having enchant as one of his two top town reads (I'm assuming you're talking about early game?) but that could definitely be the case if you're right
Yeah, pretty sure he said that.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 476, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 474, Herta wrote:
In post 419, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 412, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 411, Porkens wrote:
In post 407, furtiveglance wrote:Retract sus on Herta, was never feeling it
Convenient
Says the player voteparked on a vanity wagon that no one but you is currently interested in flipping. I still don’t see the so-called “tmi” that Titus was alluding to. I just thought having us, furtive and Enchant as possible Ircher buddies seemed kind’ve whack because neither are anywhere near my PoE.

I will take another look at Scerrredbear and confer with Auro but I’m still not trusting Titus. She just sounds too certain about things and she usually doesn’t d1 without flips. @furtive, you remember how she seemed to not be extremely certain on pretty much anything in Chromavalon d1?

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Did you get anything out of this? Why or why not?

Do you have any town reads?
In post 430, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 412, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 411, Porkens wrote:
In post 407, furtiveglance wrote:Retract sus on Herta, was never feeling it
Convenient
Says the player voteparked on a vanity wagon that no one but you is currently interested in flipping. I still don’t see the so-called “tmi” that Titus was alluding to. I just thought having us, furtive and Enchant as possible Ircher buddies seemed kind’ve whack because neither are anywhere near my PoE.

I will take another look at Scerrredbear and confer with Auro but I’m still not trusting Titus. She just sounds too certain about things and she usually doesn’t d1 without flips. @furtive, you remember how she seemed to not be extremely certain on pretty much anything in Chromavalon d1?

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I look back and see a more considered Titus, but I wouldn't characterise her as unsure. As for the change in tone, Chromavalon is a kind of setup where you want to be more considered as town. Also, they seem angry in this game for some reason. I don't really like it. But I don't know why someone would blow up early game as mafia, in a 2 mafia game.
My follow up was here. Basically I'm not sure on Titus. They aren't really towny, but not the most sus either.

As for townreads, I'd go for Don Draper x Mistress and Scrrdbear, maybe you. Enchant is doing a bit more nothing than before. Which can be sus.
In post 573, furtiveglance wrote:Uh sorry guys. I thought Herta was townie, maybe I scumsided
In post 598, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 596, Titus wrote:There should be scum on Herta. Scum knew he wasn't doused.
How do we know Herta wasn't doused?
In post 618, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 617, Enchant wrote:I don't know who is doused.

Only Firefighter can clarify that partiallly (but i would recommend to not claim targets).
Why is Herta not doused then?
In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.
Maybe I’m wrong, I thought he said that me and Enchant were his two top trs.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:58 am

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In post 960, Herta wrote:Vanderscamp/Don
Ya think furtive would protect Ircher from douse and arsos would douse them?
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:13 am

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In post 966, Enchant wrote:
In post 960, Herta wrote:Vanderscamp/Don
Ya think furtive would protect Ircher from douse and arsos would douse them?
The only night that could even make sense is the night we have confirmation on ignite.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:14 am

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5.02
Votecount 5.02

Vanderscamp (1):
Ircher.
Ircher (1):
Vanderscamp.

Not voting (2):
Don Draper x Mistress, Enchant.

Tree-stumps:
Titus, Herta.

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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:18 am

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In post 306, Ircher wrote:
In post 301, Titus wrote:
In post 227, Ircher wrote:
In post 196, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 46, Ircher wrote:If not Draper, how about Porkens?
In post 48, Ircher wrote:Well Draper is making this big fuss and all, so.......
In post 50, Ircher wrote:It's not, but it's also early. There is merit in looking elsewhere.
Why are you still voting us then?
I didn't want to kill wagon momentum. It was more of a "if you rather" kind of thing. I could move now, but I don't really have a place to go with it, so....
In post 153, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:I thought both reactions looked scummy to me: Titus voting me for not doing enough by page freaking 2 and Ircher for apparently no reason whatsoever, advocating wagoning us and I still think this. I no longer think they look aligned like I’ve said recently.
Look, it was early game. I advocated for wagoning you all because I was already voting there. If I started the game voting Titus instead for instance, I would've advocated there instead.

Didn't read too much today as I had a long work day; I just searched for my username to see if anything pressing came up.
In post 291, Ircher wrote:Posts and . While I don't necessarily disagree with the argument, I do believe that Titus's conviction is too strong especially given how often Titus has played with you.
These don't seem congruent with each other.
How so?
In post 313, Titus wrote:
In post 312, Enchant wrote:I unvoted Ircher because titus would likely just hammer instantly after that vote.
Why? For the most part, I have townread Ircher but fir his recent movement claiming his SR was stronger than it is.
Anyone have thoughts about this?
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:52 am

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About Ircher's response to your wagon?

Yeah, I hated it
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:22 am

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I'm not going to spend time defending myself. I encourage everyone to make their decision and vote accordingly.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:30 pm

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In post 971, Ircher wrote:I'm not going to spend time defending myself. I encourage everyone to make their decision and vote accordingly.
That’s not helpful.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 971, Ircher wrote:I'm not going to spend time defending myself. I encourage everyone to make their decision and vote accordingly.

Done
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:43 am

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VOTE: Ircher

I really not picking anyone else today.
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