In post 497, Enchant wrote:Like i said you can try to hunt mafia instead of no-lim/killing me, if you want, which doesn't hurt you actually.
I think we very clearly have been doing that. There’s only two possibilities for other scum and we think Mega > ceejay but it’s of course possible he could be scum lurking out but I think Mega’s more likely based off of play.
I actually don’t see why it’s in the other scum’s wincon to eliminate/kill you when you still get to vote.
I think if you aren’t actually fucking with us and are SK, then it’s in mafia’s interest to keep you alive.
In post 497, Enchant wrote:Like i said you can try to hunt mafia instead of no-lim/killing me, if you want, which doesn't hurt you actually.
I think we very clearly have been doing that. There’s only two possibilities for other scum and we think Mega > ceejay but it’s of course possible he could be scum lurking out but I think Mega’s more likely based off of play.
I actually don’t see why it’s in the other scum’s wincon to eliminate/kill you when you still get to vote.
I think if you aren’t actually fucking with us and are SK, then it’s in mafia’s interest to keep you alive.
Do you think in a SK!Enchant Maf!Meg world I have the stance I do?
If Enchant is SK then his best chance at winning is killing Gypyx and trusting that mafia if they’re not absolute idiots would realize that it’s in their best interest not to lim/kill him but that’s a humongous if, because all we know for sure is he’s confiscum.
But that’s literally his only chance which is why if he’s on the level here with that claim he would want to help town because he has 0 shot in that case.
In theory there's a logical line to it to pull off the win but the problem is that town has no actual commitment to it at that point and can just go back to normal whenever.
In post 505, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:If Enchant is SK then his best chance at winning is killing Gypyx and trusting that mafia if they’re not absolute idiots would realize that it’s in their best interest not to lim/kill him but that’s a humongous if, because all we know for sure is he’s confiscum.
But that’s literally his only chance which is why if he’s on the level here with that claim he would want to help town because he has 0 shot in that case.
So that’s why I’m so skeptical of that claim because I don’t understand why if Enchant is actually SK here, he gives up his only possible shot at achieving wincon by townsiding.
It would be absolutely hilarious though if we wind up winning because Enchant wound up being SK who threw away his only shot at winning.
In post 507, Enchant wrote:Mafia can't do shit to save me, nor they care.
If mafia actually cared about keeping me alive, they would CC Gypix claim and go for HONORABLE FIGHT with me in kingmaker.
Assuming you’re not actually lying here, why would mafia do that? Mafia fake CCs cop, Gypyx gets miselimmed and mafia outs themselves, then gets limmed next day.
In post 507, Enchant wrote:Mafia can't do shit to save me, nor they care.
If mafia actually cared about keeping me alive, they would CC Gypix claim and go for HONORABLE FIGHT with me in kingmaker.
Assuming you’re not actually lying here, why would mafia do that? Mafia fake CCs cop, Gypyx gets miselimmed and mafia outs themselves, then gets limmed next day.
I think the logic is entering 1v1v1 kingmaker because Gypyx lim-> townie killed both scum outed.
You asked what you could do to not lose. Maybe Mafia will respect your apology and be friends, and then you can murder us together and we definitely do not eliminate you the next day.
In post 515, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:You asked what you could do to not lose. Maybe Mafia will respect your apology and be friends, and then you can murder us together and we definitely do not eliminate you the next day.
Fine.
I apologize to mafia, i am so sorry your aim so fucked up, you managed to hit me instead of Cop or literally any other VT. May god grant you more training in call of duty after i help town decimate you for this mistake.
Will it work? Because even if i no-kill, Gypix still gets check, and town still holds majority.
Like what stant you even trying to force on me?
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In post 516, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:I’m not sure other scum is Mega anymore. I honestly don’t know what to think but she’s been making some really good points.
Eh, I still think it's her. A side effect of our efforts to prevent this scheme is that the real Mafia doesn't have to. If we sway enough people to prevent it, their best chance is to be on the side that wanted an "auto-win." And if we aren't able to convince enough people, they wouldn't have either, so they'd just guarantee their loss.
Perhaps it may have been better to pretend to be on board, and force Mafia to out themselves, then if no one did we could be more sure on Enchant being Mafia instead of SK. But that ship has sailed, and here we are.
In post 515, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:You asked what you could do to not lose. Maybe Mafia will respect your apology and be friends, and then you can murder us together and we definitely do not eliminate you the next day.
Fine.
I apologize to mafia, i am so sorry your aim so fucked up, you managed to hit me instead of Cop or literally any other VT. May god grant you more training in call of duty after i help town decimate you for this mistake.
Will it work? Because even if i no-kill, Gypix still gets check, and town still holds majority.
Like what stant you even trying to force on me?
Nah, it's gotta be hand-written or they won't buy it.
Really though, all this talk about CCing Cop into Kingmaker, and had you not started the day asking for Cop claims you could have done that yourself instead of relying on Mafia to be suicidal for you.
In post 520, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Really though, all this talk about CCing Cop into Kingmaker, and had you not started the day asking for Cop claims you could have done that yourself instead of relying on Mafia to be suicidal for you.
Yeah, i could. I said why it will not work in my favor, but gives mafia win on silver plate.
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