Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Firebringer]

what up yall
if anyone expects me to read day 1 they crazy

[Firebringer]

I'm gonna say this in the nicest way possible

Mastina had the reins D1 and was wrong, bunnyonce was one of her scumreads

If people just let her repeat D1 I am going to afk

wait why would u guys listen to mastina
this is town.

mastina probably town too.
This is to the extent i scumhunt this game day.

No for memes

[Firebringer]

We can be oblivious together. I got something

else

in common with you, Fire!

Nice, we both can pretend we know whats going on when we don't. I like this strat.

[Firebringer]

actually mastina could be scum. Wow that would be spicy.

[Firebringer]

I'm fine with playing along, but I'm not letting her pick the elim

Can I pick?

I don't want anyone to necessarily pick

But feel free to offer up some suggestions?

I am not making this day 'let's kill mastina', I am saying 'please hold mastina

accountable

'

almost makes me want to read day 1. not gonna go there.
do u want to elim mastina and think she scum or not

[Firebringer]

This is why I hate mafia in general. People act like their opinion is always right even when it's not.

You're literally doing that LOL all game, every single post

don't we all

[Firebringer]

i might just sheep and parrot unwnd this game. I know unwnd likes that

[Firebringer]

who is unwnd voting.
im sheeping them

[Firebringer]

im totally gonna ignore any mastina/mathblade and ppp posts.
So much fricking white noise.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: mastina

[Firebringer]

If you are a good dog you will join my noble cause

some might call me best boi

[Firebringer]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

fake dayvig

[Firebringer]

Firebringer why arent you just sayin' shit tbh

I thought you loved that

Where's your bark

you see this game? i was gone 24 hours and its unreadable mess. Just claim nonsense and arguing about nonsense from yesterday i have no interest in reading.

[Firebringer]

I didn't have the time to develop any strong scumreads. I

lol what

[Firebringer]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

fake dayvig

You rly think so?

yes

[Firebringer]

i guess math could be someone who doesn't do the typical dayvig thing of just shooting. but 99% of time a dayvig doesn't just announce im a day vig unless they do it within 24 hours of them doing. Why give someone chance to night kill u if ur day vig. Makes no sense

[Firebringer]

why would u crumb day vig

[Firebringer]

im shocked mastina had authority here to begin with

[Firebringer]

i guess math could be someone who doesn't do the typical dayvig thing of just shooting. but 99% of time a dayvig doesn't just announce im a day vig unless they do it within 24 hours of them doing. Why give someone chance to night kill u if ur day vig. Makes no sense

Unless, of course, there're shields.

what

[Firebringer]

i guess math could be someone who doesn't do the typical dayvig thing of just shooting. but 99% of time a dayvig doesn't just announce im a day vig unless they do it within 24 hours of them doing. Why give someone chance to night kill u if ur day vig. Makes no sense

Unless, of course, there're shields.

what

Shields.

are u saying math crumbed for protection because that is just silly to me.

[Firebringer]

I am saying SHIELDS.

repeating the same word over and over doesn't make it anymore clear.

[Firebringer]

one more post couldn't hurt unwnd. go for it

[Firebringer]

My strongest scumread has mostly been your slot, as it turns out!

i have a hard time buying u believe unwnd scum

[Firebringer]

What the fuck people how am I on Mastina's side, are we actually scum together what the fuck???

unwnd just wants u to vote her

[Firebringer]

I don't like being told what to do bruh

then why do u listen to what the mod tells u to do when tell us to post

[Firebringer]

I don't understand what happened to Yume?

yume flip flopping on a dime isn't unusual

[Firebringer]

You wanted to kill mastina D1 why not now

Cause we're scum together obviously. I told you all I could hard bus day 1 but you all didn't listen when I said we had the most scum equity together

Could u extend ur bussing one extra day as a birthday present to me

[Firebringer]

T-bone u can take me seriously. I have the best wagons to sell, coming in low low prices

[Firebringer]

You're either with me or against me

I will take it back if you vote Mastina

uwnd let me sell it

[Firebringer]

T-bone u can take me seriously. I have the best wagons to sell, coming in low low prices

Why do you think Mastina is scum?

I don't buy she believes what she is posting in terms of reads

[Firebringer]

That said, unwnd here is way too over the top.

It's ALMOST like he wants to drown the thread out with noise from the fact that I've been making some pretty damn fucking good points that condemn him in particular.

ur just throwing unwnd accusation back at em when said this like 30 posts before that.
effectively could have quoted unwnd and did a 'no u'
come on mastina try harder

[Firebringer]

It’s what Mastina did to me D1 too.

She has all this effort for finding my crumbs but none to case MMR. :/

It’s like bad.

her case is:
PPF is town therefore MMR is scum fake claiming.
It has no nuance to it

[Firebringer]

i think all mastina has is townreads and i don't even want to bother reading into them to figure out why they exist but uwnd is 100% correct that all mastina wants to do is interact with those people. Everything else is just a defense posting

[Firebringer]

i have a guilty on anyone who makes a claim

[Firebringer]

Scarf still voting me when I am already half clear and will be fully clear later is hella suss. If I somehow get miselimed today, remember that.

posts like this is what makes me want to not to read any of ur iso

[Firebringer]

Scarf still voting me when I am already half clear and will be fully clear later is hella suss. If I somehow get miselimed today, remember that.

posts like this is what makes me want to not to read any of ur iso

Well it’s true, I wouldn’t kill Prof here, so that’s half clear.

thats not how any of this works

[Firebringer]

scarfsmanship i didn't give u permission to be on me.

[Firebringer]

we are talking about mario cart

[Firebringer]

I watchd a video on the mario kart tracks today

what a nerd

[Firebringer]

if we can just have 5 pages about mario kart i think this game would be more productive

[Firebringer]

none of us are on sides, we are on a forum

[Firebringer]

unwnd is scum for ten different reasons.

name one

[Firebringer]

My strongest scumread has mostly been your slot, as it turns out!

i have a hard time buying u believe unwnd scum

I mean, you're scum, so.

The proof I've scumread unwnd is literally in my posts since before unwnd was in the game. Radja was weak, but the read exploded in strength once unwnd scummed it up.

I see zero reason u even think my predecessor was scum. So given u can't read me. I can't fathom why you would respond to me like this unlike ur just doing this for the audience.

But go on, why is unwnd scum

[Firebringer]

All people who think mastina is mafia should instead vote PPF, because mafia mastina will have to give a check tomorrow which would be informative whether or not mastina is scum, whereas PPF who is guiltied will not provide information. Consider this point very well.

i am undecided if PPF is mafia. I don't like whatever posting and the few positions seen but none of that makes scum.

and this guilty thing interests me zero percent

[Firebringer]

mastina i was talking about ur scumreads.

[Firebringer]

Won't explain my unwnd read?

This whole post is cancer. I am not reading it. Sum it up. Why is unwnd scum.

[Firebringer]

I lied i read like 25% and couldn't find a coherent point besides you arguing with unwnd and calling unwnd liar/misrepresenting or w/e.
It was all defense posting of what i read.

[Firebringer]

you just explained a read in which is 90% role reasons and 10% just not in town block.
Why should anyone sheep that

[Firebringer]

theres things i want to respond to about mastina.
but then i realized thats just going to create more noise.
is it worth engaging.

the answer my shock you:
no

[Firebringer]

what specifically should i engage with

[Firebringer]

i am undecided if PPF is mafia. I don't like whatever posting and the few positions seen but none of that makes scum.

and this guilty thing interests me zero percent

What should interest you is PPF's reaction to being guiltied, and how they have behaved for the rest of the day. With a threat of dayvig looming and pressure to vote in the cc, PPF knows time is running out (avatar related pun intended). Let's compare how hydras bunny and PPF have reacted to imminent death.

Aisa dumps a scuffed reads list with plenty of missing parts and ???s, (2795), dumps greeting's POE (2977). Eager to get thoughts out there even if they are incomplete and half baked.

Nancy doesn't want to a reads list on other players because it will get shit on [3362], but they also don't want to say who is scum on mastina's wagon and would rather speak in vague terms [3376], and instead makes an easy omgus vote on unwnd [3698]. Ironically enough PPF tells math to look at other slots while refusing to do so themselves [3408], tells math to stop controlling the game [3468]

So much of PPF's iso this day is the same things repeated again and again,all of which are entirely self centered and do not read other players.

- mastina is town
- i would never kill prof
- people who oppose me are scum
- mathblade, please stop reminding people that there is a guilty on me

- i have a confirmable role as early as tomorrow*

*terms and conditions may apply

Compare this to how Titus apparently is going to make a reads list in the future, but nancy won't even post an inkling of information, because, uhhh, when nancy makes readslists nancy gets shit on? Why is getting shit on a concern to you when you are at death's door + you are already getting shit on? Why won't nancy even take the first step to making reads on other players when I asked who was scum on wagon? Why is nancy concerned about getting shit on if they have a role that is confirmable as early as tomorrow**?

** professional driver on closed course, do not attempt

Bunny knew they were dying soon and did their best to give all their information away, even though they had next to nothing. PPF is one of the top posters in the game and refuses to give anything away. I think the answer is that they know they are dying soon and don't want to give any information away. They will instead quote this post and make a snarky remark.

Good post here

[Firebringer]

what specifically should i engage with

Where do you stand on MMR/PPF debate?

What would you do in my shoes?

i don't care about MMR.
PPF could be scum but im not interested in pursuing. It will self sort either dead in a few days or poe to scum
if i were you, i wouldn't crumb vigi. Then i would have shot mastina
Finally prove all these people like yume who think they can read her wrong

[Firebringer]

Assume Mastina flips scum then who?
Assume Mastina flips town then who?
(Obviously if we don’t flip Mastina you’d say her)

i actually don't have a follow up shot.
probably holster till i get another strong scumread
maybe search the consensus null reads of people shoot in there

[Firebringer]

i feel like everytime i open this thread i get a major sigh
really don't think theres anything interesting to talk to

this is change my mind series.
pls argue this with me

[Firebringer]

is astrologer even a real role

[Firebringer]

Reminder that Ydrasse is definitely mafia, filler logs throughout

spicy. is ydra just hiding behind mathblade

[Firebringer]

is astrologer even a real role

Probably. I'd say Mastina is probably fake and had some kind of informed modifier which told her that Astrologer existed.

no i meant, is this a role that has ever existed ever before. I saw mastina describe the role, which i trust zero. But for all intents and purposes i feel like its made up that has never existed in mafia before.

What even is astrologer

[Firebringer]

OWN (MODIFIER--in my case, 'limited') ASTROLOGER
Description of which night phase, singular, I can act. Then, my power, attunement.
The information about scum attunements matching their respective sun/moon factions, with the details of it also including town.
The modified section of my role (in this case, 'limited'), specifying my limitations (some players I can't target, can't target more than once, will be informed when this happens).

And on N1, I received the feedback that I couldn't target either MathBlade or Dingle Dangle Scarecrow with my ability.


MMR's formatting does not match mine.
Piecing together MMR's broken-up claim, THEIR formatting is, apparently:
TOWN ASTROLOGER
A standard role PM which isn't modified based off of the game (and allows for targeting any night phase rather than singular). The power is a standard power (itself something I find unlikely)--but has the limited modifiers in the wrong place. MMR is claiming the wrong formatting for their role PM.
The information is not presented in their claim at all. What information implies a scum counterpart from their claim?

these are both garbage. i.e both sound made up.

[Firebringer]

PPF has already claimed not ascetic unless I'm misremembering
You're not a sensible roleblock target when there are already powerful claimed PRs, and even if you were, that explanation should be much less likely than 'the Loyal part of my role worked as intended'

I see.
The TR on PPF was only testing reactions.
I thought that it was obvious that I wouldn't TR a slot just from their response.
-Rubella

testing reactions from who

[Firebringer]

not here to convince u of anything yume.

[Firebringer]

Rubella can elaborate better, but my understanding is that we were mainly testing PPF's reaction.
~Mumps

and what did u get from it

[Firebringer]

Astrologer likely exists or a role like it.

at some point im going to have to sit down and actually figure out these games mechanics. But it won't be this game day. Hopefully i don't have to think about this till post game.

[Firebringer]

Reminder that Ydrasse is definitely mafia, filler logs throughout

spicy. is ydra just hiding behind mathblade

ive thought about this a bit more
scum ydra is much better than doing this.
this would indicate ydra is being lazy town

[Firebringer]

Also, to those who scumread mastina, show me one game in the past five years where she spammed in the exact manner she does in this game, okay?

Already did.

You ignored it. Don’t have time to grab it again.

Probably gonna move my vote to MMR today since that’s where everyone is going but I think we’re eliminating the wrong scum.

And you ignored all the reasons we gave why she is town.

ur the one claiming to keep an open mind.
either have it or don't, but stop pretending u have an open mind

[Firebringer]

Intent to vote MMR which will likely result in hammer as people said they are sheeping me will move

Get last thoughts in soon. Probably 30 minutes ish til I vote

This hardly qualifies as intent to hammer. Standard protocol is generally 24 hours.
~Mumps

What

[Firebringer]

I did, for a while. Read my iso if you don't believe me. But her posts tell me she is town. Am I supposed to go against my read to appease the masses? FYI, going against my read to appease the masses is MY scum trait.

im not telling u to change anything except for ur claim that ur open minded while asking people to provide evidence or case their read for you when you aren't taking it with any consideration. its annoying and waste of everyones time.

accept that people don't agree with u, and move on. No one believes you have an open mind right now

[Firebringer]

Intent to vote MMR which will likely result in hammer as people said they are sheeping me will move

Get last thoughts in soon. Probably 30 minutes ish til I vote

This hardly qualifies as intent to hammer. Standard protocol is generally 24 hours.
~Mumps

What

What I am saying is that this is merely MathBlade posturing. If he truly wanted to give us time to give final reads, he would give at least 24 hours.

Anyway, my reads (which are totally not vetted by my partners) is something like PPF, mastina, and MathBlade are all scum. Yume, furtive, Dingle Dangle, Enchant, and T-Bone are town. No opinion on everyone else.
~Mumps

I don't think the intent was for you specifically to give thoughts.

[Firebringer]

Mainly Mastina v unwd+FB (maybe?) really seems SvS.

Pedit: Today we are not elimming Mastina so there’s no point

im always scum

[Firebringer]

what the hell did i just come back to

[Firebringer]

Just to be clear: does anyone think Mastina/MMR could both be their claimed roles? I don't.

I don't either. I'm inclined to believe mastina more because she gave more info, was consistent about it, and did it first, but there's no way both of their roles exist as claimed.

mastina was repeating the same like 2 or three points all day. Just because she puts in a lot of words doesn't mean its more info

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

[Firebringer]

Astrologer likely exists or a role like it.

at some point im going to have to sit down and actually figure out these games mechanics. But it won't be this game day. Hopefully i don't have to think about this till post game.

By the way, y'all should be ashamed of not calling Firebringer out for transparently having a scum iso.

No, seriously.

This is Firebringer's iso this game.

Can you point me to a single scumhunting/good thought within?

Firebringer is, blatantly, getting away with doing nothing, because y'all are letting him get away with it.

imagine thinking i do anything as any alignment

[Firebringer]

I meant specifically about her claim.

fair point then i guess

[Firebringer]

I'm watching anime again

i like anime

i got into a really good anime recently Fumetsu no Anata e; very good. Binged it last week. 10/10 would recommend

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Past Present Future

[Firebringer]

Lets just end this game day, whats the vc at

[Firebringer]

Lets just end this game day, whats the vc at

no, because the mastina replacement needs to check someone

then we play the waiting game

[Firebringer]

@MMR why would you call the player who’s suggesting you botched your fakeclaim “a beacon of light?

And why bother mentioning the Mastina/Fire thing unless you have an actual opinion about it?

mathblade asked for a tldr

[Firebringer]

id rather not vote MMR if for only reason it was what mastina wanted. And mastina had her way yesterday

[Firebringer]

are we there yet mom

[Firebringer]

MMR on E-1.

Do i want to hammer?

Hoho. Oh yeah. I won't though.

Spicy. Why not

[Firebringer]

FYI if we flip MMR town, firebringer absolutely must die at town's earliest convenience, can explain in more detail tomorrow if those hypotheticals happen

Deal.
VOTE: MMR

[Firebringer]

Wait what’s this
Did I join a cult

[Firebringer]

Lol I should sleep for some reason I thought this was a pt

[Firebringer]

Hot take unwnd is scum and mastina was right

[Firebringer]

Let it be known that I know Firebringer is Cult.

But,

VOTE: Scarfmanship

no im def mafia.

Kind of shocked unwnd flipped town.
Okay back to thinking mastina is wrong on everything except one right read.

[Firebringer]

Oh wow I was right. Scum Vig anyone? Could explain early claim, no death and bad kill?

R u high or what

[Firebringer]

Can we get some momentum on Firebringer? I feel like they're definitely Cult of some kind

And ur reasoning is what exactly

[Firebringer]

i feel 90% of what furtiveglance posts is just trolling. What am i supposed to take seriously here

[Firebringer]

hi pot meet kettle.

[Firebringer]

keep telling urself that.
feels like ur trying to start some fight or get me to be active. Either way, not interested.

do u have anything of substance to think im scum or just this "ur not doing anything"

[Firebringer]

keep telling urself that.
feels like ur trying to start some fight or get me to be active. Either way, not interested.

do u have anything of substance to think im scum or just this "ur not doing anything"

1) So you're not even pretending to be interested in 'getting active'?

2) That is in itself a reason. Lack of contribution is scummy, and when we normalise (i.e. nullread) players who do nothing, site meta suffers as a result.

1) I will be active when im interested in game. U can't force people to care about a game
2) U can't change site meta by trying to enforce policy lims. I have been on this site for like 7 years. If u think u can preach change and then everyone just accepts ur vision of what should be normal behavior, ur wrong. The focus should be on improving ur own ability to read people.

So i guess we got nothing here.
Think i got a weak townread here...although seems like ur scumread on me isn't based on thinking of my alignment in some deep thought more generalized view of scummy behavior. So this could be easy to say all this.

Ehhhhhhhh weak weak town. Gonna ignore u for now.

pedit - furtive if u haven't been trolling. I don't know what the hell some of ur posts purpose are for. It seems literally to fuck with people.

[Firebringer]

hints of datisi's cafe

what does this mean

[Firebringer]

like the mix of troll posting and frustration at not being heard is similar to that game?

[Firebringer]

i really thought furtive posting on ydra being scum and the confidence he been saying it was all troll to fuck with ydra. Him confirming he believes it and reaffirms it....wild.

Like this is when i first thought mentally furtive was trolling. It looked like he was purposefully trying to fuck with ydra, and i thought 'this is playful joking, or reaction testing', when nothing seemed to come from it and he didn't follow up. I went "okay so playful joking/trolling" then repeats he very much believes it. Idgi

[Firebringer]

i don't really know the difference in ydra scum or town. But this is exactly how i know ydra plays and nothing pinged me on anything she has done. What posts are pinging u

[Firebringer]

furtive yet again i think thread invites you to figure out Why i am scum beyond "this isnt town ydra"
you have to give Case or reason the absence of what you think is "town" isnt going to compel anyone

im your anime rival now

well now i townread u

[Firebringer]

im stupid but isn't the fact that MMR faked a guilty on PPF just mean they are spewed town. What am i missing math

[Firebringer]

PPF i really don't want to hear anything more about ur role. its completely irrelevant. can u stop talking about it like it means something especially when u are just hinting at things which is the most annoying thing ever.

[Firebringer]

Not feeling furtive wagon. But i don't really have a scumread to chase here.
looking to find someone i can trust that think probably good reads and town to sheep this game day.
Not gonna be math. Maybe T-Bone.
Idk, plesase submit applications if u want me as ur sheep.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: toogeloo uwaaaa

i don't know if u know the golden rule of toogeloo,
but he never rolls scum.

[Firebringer]

Ohhh right Toog replaced in.
Okay I guess he could be scum.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?

What's up FB? Have you been reading along?

Not much, just about to heat up some thanksgiving leftovers.
Ive only been following along since i replaced in. Not gonna read prior to that.

Where u and ur head at right now?

[Firebringer]

New reads list, haven't sorted this out in a bit. I am left with a PoE of like 5 when I remove town reads and one-scum immunities. I am not happy with this and it would make me feel better if those with one scum immunities were just on the other scumteam. If a town read is wrong then it's probably DDS or FB.

Spoiler: Reads 2.0

Town lean
Radical Rat
Enchant
Firebringer
DDS
Scarf

One-Scum but null
Math
PPF

Null lean
Furtive
CSF

Scum/PoE lean
Toog
Ydrasse
Meuh

I'm very interested in your Firebringer townread

i am as well, but i don't think it will develop my read of T-Bone no matter what response he gave.

[Firebringer]

I’m feeling lazy
VOTE: Enchant

Was feeling could get engaged talking to cat.
Didn’t happen

[Firebringer]

I think furtive is town

[Firebringer]

God damn it math
I fucking said don’t claim what is happening with money in the thread

U get nothing now

[Firebringer]

God damn it math
I fucking said don’t claim what is happening with money in the thread

U get nothing now

Ignore that post wrong thread

[Firebringer]

hey porkens whats up.

I have a result: I checked myself and found out im mafia

[Firebringer]

Furtiveglance was eliminated. Their role was

called it

[Firebringer]

Well now meuh is hard on my radar

[Firebringer]

Did anyone die at night?

my innocence

[Firebringer]

dont think enchant has actual guilty

[Firebringer]

Also, Enchant is town I’m pretty damn confident in that like I was with Furtive.

interested in hearing the why

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Meuh

[Firebringer]

can we not do a redo of yesterday with PPF and Math going at it forever. I think we can improve gamestate by having everyone else chat and you guys add commentary to min

[Firebringer]

can we not do a redo of yesterday with PPF and Math going at it forever. I think we can improve gamestate by having everyone else chat and you guys add commentary to min

Fine.

Why do you think Enchant doesn’t have a guilty?

he is a shit poster. if u don't suspect a shit poster is lying immediately when they announce a guilty. I also don't go through enchant iso and think 'this guy can check people' vibes.

Anyways way announced feels like screwing around from previous game day posts.

[Firebringer]

cat scratch, u owe me 2 scratches.
One - u didn't motivate me yesterday. all ur fault.
Two - because u voted wrong and therefore are now my sheep.

u may have never agreed to be my sheep, but if u are town u will immediately understand how i am right and deserved to be sheeped.
Pls join me to victory.

[Firebringer]

Cat scratch, look at me.
Now take a second look.

Have i ever led u astray?

[Firebringer]

if ur trying to make me paranoid of u. Ur doing an okay job.

[Firebringer]

Listen Meuh vibes are off to me. I don't know what it is but i come in here and im immediately like. Yep Meuh is def scum.

[Firebringer]

I think we're losing rn? So that's a fun situation to come back to
I wonder about the lack of death, though

This post made my scum alarms break

[Firebringer]

cat scratch blink once for if ur teamed with meuh and twice if ur not with meuh

[Firebringer]

cat scratch blink once for if ur teamed with meuh and twice if ur not with meuh

blinks rapidly

I fucking knew it

[Firebringer]

Meuh and PPF are probably not on same team if both scum.
Would be pretty spicy if Meuh was Lunar considering MMR.
Wait could they even both be scum......hmmmmmmmmm

Survey feels like a no

[Firebringer]

Meuh and PPF are probably not on same team if both scum.
Would be pretty spicy if Meuh was Lunar considering MMR.
Wait could they even both be scum......hmmmmmmmmm

Survey feels like a no

Why do you say this? They feel very teamed to me.

too obvious to be teamed

[Firebringer]

Meuh and PPF are probably not on same team if both scum.
Would be pretty spicy if Meuh was Lunar considering MMR.
Wait could they even both be scum......hmmmmmmmmm

Survey feels like a no

Why can’t we both be town?

i can't see that as a possibiliy given all my other reads.

[Firebringer]

Cats are scummy tho

[Firebringer]

Actually ydra is a cat here. Way townier than u Cat Scratch. Get on her level.

[Firebringer]

hey T-Bone whats shaking

[Firebringer]

Tbone can i interest u in a meuh wagon

[Firebringer]

Meuh/CSF are tied together for now.

????????

[Firebringer]

Boop beep

[Firebringer]

What anime r u watching

[Firebringer]

hey junkochan is in the game. hi junko

[Firebringer]

aight Iwas at a point where you were discussing the game cycle with t-bone and I got confused, went back to this and got even more confused

Game order is Dusk -> Night -> Dawn -> Noon

Night and noon are traditional “nights”

Dusk and Dawn are traditional “days”
I hate the wording but it is what it is

this explains alot

[Firebringer]

like the phase names that ive been going ??? since i joined

[Firebringer]

i admire junkochan for reading game. i refuse to read day 1 still.

[Firebringer]

I scumread junko for the memes

[Firebringer]

I scumread junko for the memes

UNVOTE:

VOTE: firebringer

Don't try me

biggest scumread ive ever had my life in fact.

I scumread firebringer for scumreading junko for the memes

i townread u now

[Firebringer]

okay gonna be honest ive been skipping out on last few pages why is this a thing:

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (2) professotic, Meuh,

[Firebringer]

not until tomorrow i guess

[Firebringer]

i wont take u too seriously junko, u so obvi scum.

[Firebringer]

math isn't very good at ignoring PPF and PPF will always respond to math.
Repeating Day 2 forever for our torture

[Firebringer]

pushing PPF is just gonna make this game get dragged down tbh.
If u think PPF will go quietly in the night, i suggest u going for other scumread and shooting PPF tomorrow.

[Firebringer]

math isn't very good at ignoring PPF and PPF will always respond to math.
Repeating Day 2 forever for our torture

I did ignore PPF.

I was explicitly asked about PPF by someone else.

Stop framing this like that.

not gonna get an argument over this. If this is u ignoring PPF. Ur not doing a good job.

[Firebringer]

Damn junko unvotes me. Now my joke scumread isn't as funny

[Firebringer]

sheep me

[Firebringer]

sheep me

Read day 1

never

[Firebringer]

Oof Bad doogy

one of my best posts

[Firebringer]

most likely Scum flips: Firebringer and PPF

Fire, I think you are better than this if you are town, there is no way you don't think in pursuing MMR/PPF for that interaction yet you wanted to look the other way

PPF I know I'm going to be scumread by you, I know you already scumread my slot, I know you are going to make a tantrum and you know what? I don't give a fk, you either give me a better claim than you snowflake role that conviniently shouldn't be limmed or you are dead

U think I solve games by claims now?
Game play first claims second

[Firebringer]

Ppf why was it scummy of scarf to push for your lim? He pushed you on both dawn and dusk... only 1 given scum team wants to lim you on any given phase; his consistent tunnel on you rings more town than scum

i'll vote anyone in the null/scums 5916

UNVOTE:

how is dingle dangle or ydrasse scum here.

[Firebringer]

junko town if i havent made my actual opinion clear

[Firebringer]

everyone saying im scum and i get no votes on me.
Very people i townread well except cat scratch.

Hopes for this game are low.

[Firebringer]

one of meuh/ppf
Enchant likely.

For possible people converted i would think T-Bone would be high up there as people I would convert if cult.

[Firebringer]

i actually thought MMR was gonna flip town when i made that vote lol

[Firebringer]

i am def PPF partner. That is why i am advocating math shoot them.

[Firebringer]

I am so pro town that i want u to help me kill my allies this game.

[Firebringer]

Junko i would help u lim PPF if it wasn't going to create a worse gamestate for everyone to do so.

[Firebringer]

ur saying im scum with MMR then? Okay, i am guilty of bussing my ally then.
Very scummy. Me big bad scum.
Let me help u buss another

[Firebringer]

when ur case can be boiled down to "fire is better than this", theres really not much for me to respond to. Ur either trying to bait me into try hard. Not gonna happen, i don't fall for these bait traps people make for me anymore.

Or you think im scum and me arguing with u is pointless. So lets go with the latter and we can lim whoever is my ally or you can vote me i guess.

[Firebringer]

do u seriously think Meuh is town here tho?

[Firebringer]

well let it be known i do have a 100% success rate on mastina.
She has 0% success rate on me.

I doubt myself a bit later on mastina scum because of force replace out but with meuh and taking out the replace out.
I am certain of it.

[Firebringer]

i don't see junko possible

[Firebringer]

i guess dingle could be converted or something right?

[Firebringer]

i am on team firebringer. Best team around. Everyone wishes they could be on it

[Firebringer]

Btw if any of you mofos scumreads me after i went and read everything, istg idk who you are or what alignment you ended up in, if you praise the sun or worship the moon, i'm going to find you, and i'm going to kill You.

Only scum would say this

already did this joke TBONE!

[Firebringer]

i targetted junkochan and found out she is not mafia

[Firebringer]

dont like the DDs wagon.

[Firebringer]

God even Meuh is a better target right now imo

We have an open door policy

[Firebringer]

Yeah ima say the Lunar are Ydrass/Dingle.

I have absolutely no idea on the Solar.

based on what

[Firebringer]

*is allegedly suspicious for a while by play

*only says something now that his own position in the game is being openly questioned

I mean, it's laughable. I think DDS is town and was cautioning against that wagon, but I hint you can be scum, say that your role can't be important enough to not flip, and you panic? Do I have that right?

I would like to read where this case "that has been forming for a while" is coming from

Mainly TBone seems very opportunistic. It seems like he wants to elim everyone and is very sheepy. It pings me.

I know this is a very cryptic explanation but I guess you can call it a “soul” read.

how has Tbone been sheepy?
He literally been ignoring every post ive made @ him this game and could easily just sheep me.

[Firebringer]

dont like the DDs wagon.

Why?

feels too easy as junko said. Also don't feel scum vibes there and no one has been making a case that even seems remotely appealing

[Firebringer]

im just looking for scum. Finding either works for me. Trying to hunt for specific team is not gonna be useful imo.
I find Tbone ignoring me annoying but not scummy....if scum maybe just doesn't find talking to me useful or im influential or w/e
only way i see tbone scum is if he was convert and i do think based on this game so far he would be high up there as a convert target.

But not gonna vote tbone out of paranoia just cause i think that.

[Firebringer]

If everyone reveal lies, i also should.

I am Mafia Goon.

This is fakeclaim.

Thank you for ur honesty

[Firebringer]

She said it in ur cult pt. Got to read that more CSF

[Firebringer]

I'm in the cult

gottem

[Firebringer]

im fine with joining enchant wagon but enchant is really my poe scum. I don't really have a gameplay vibe enchant is scum/town here.
Ive been waiting to hear town cases on him. i think someone said they thought enchant town.

[Firebringer]

so how long we gonna be indecisive here.
no movement anywhere for days.
more votes on meuh pls

[Firebringer]

ydra town. lazy wagon

[Firebringer]

Ydrasse wagon?

Also only PPF isn't voting. And well, porkens

THis cat worries me with each successive day

[Firebringer]

its okay ydra, with how this game is operating i don't blame u.
What do u think of cat scratch fever btw

[Firebringer]

Brain static

Feedback to radio station counting numbers days upon days ago

Maybe bad?

im going to take this as proof my gut is right
VOTE: Cat scratch fever

[Firebringer]

the more I think about the role the more I think "this can't be scum" and they can't be converted

okay but whats ur gameplay reason town

[Firebringer]

okay im going to pretend this is a sc2mafia game for a moment:

yall bad.
Sheep me to victory.
Vote CSF, votes on Meuh are also acceptable.
Do this we win, ggnore.

No counter arguments are accepted at this time.

[Firebringer]

we elim my choices i prove how right i am and then we stop this back and forth indecisiveness yall have and bad options u keep presenting.
Me = better intuition reads than all yall noise.
I got this game.
Sheep me for victory.

[Firebringer]

i am also accepting 1v1 situation of me vs either meuh or csf.
But none of these other wagons u guys keep pushing are any good.
They make me want to pull hair out.
No no no no bad.

[Firebringer]

No im definitely lunar

[Firebringer]

okay im going to pretend this is a sc2mafia game for a moment:

yall bad.
Sheep me to victory.
Vote CSF, votes on Meuh are also acceptable.
Do this we win, ggnore.

No counter arguments are accepted at this time.

Why am I scum?

Vibes, defending meuh. Think u 2 def are aligned.
Woudl rather flip Meuh first but ur going first to prove how right i am.

[Firebringer]

We never been same alignment cat.
So the better question for u is, why aren't u voting me?

[Firebringer]

Weak?

I literally am never wrong on mastina.
WHat horseshit is this.

[Firebringer]

Notice how meuh never has once reacted to my push on her?
Not once to say I am scummy for it. Not once to argue or even find it annoying.
What does Mueh think if town? That I am annoying town?

Literally nothing.
Probably because doesn't want more attention to how right i am. Or is it because its 'weak'

[Firebringer]

There is literally no one more towny than the cat

buddy, shut up.
U don't even know what ur doing this game.

[Firebringer]

We never been same alignment cat.
So the better question for u is, why aren't u voting me?

I would if more people are interested because I don’t want a DDS lim

But it’s not because “we’ve never been the same alignment”, that’s a silly reason for voting for someone. I think you’re scumreading me for poor reasons

Why does interest here matter if im scum?
I don't like ur defense of meuh. Its all sounds poor reasoned mech and i have strong gameplay reasons meuh is scum.

I think ur using mech to hide from scumhunting.

[Firebringer]

Like i don't accept mech reasons for anything even townreads.
So i want better reasons ur thinking meuh is town.

[Firebringer]

Fire, I’ll be honest if you have a residual scumread on Mastina, then I don’t remember the details about it because that’s before I replaced in. But I don’t agree with 5540

How about Meuh not stating one fricking opinion on my slot.
U know, cause if im town in meuh shoes the first thing i do is look at the people pushing me see where they are coming from. Meuh has done that 0 times.

[Firebringer]

This isn't hard or rocket science and I want a townreasons u think Meuh is town. Not this mech stuff. What from Meuh in their posts that u see is town mindset. Where is it? What am I ignoring? What makes u so conf ur like 'no fire is wrong' when i had scumread on mastina, i had doubts because of replace out but decided that it was neutral given the context of situation. And I am not wrong on mastina ever.

Meuh actions have not once indicated town, and lack of action or response on me. Doens't inspire confidence. Even a dismissive 'ohh wrong town' would do something to make me think Meuh is examining me.

[Firebringer]

Fire, I’ll be honest if you have a residual scumread on Mastina, then I don’t remember the details about it because that’s before I replaced in. But I don’t agree with 5540

How about Meuh not stating one fricking opinion on my slot.
U know, cause if im town in meuh shoes the first thing i do is look at the people pushing me see where they are coming from. Meuh has done that 0 times.

I think she’s had you as scum since yesterDay though?

Okay let me go back and see.

[Firebringer]

At this point a lim on Ydrasse/Enchant/Toog slot I'm all okay with, though I'll vote for DDS if the deadline isn't frozen to make sure we at least get a lim through.

Actually Firebringer too, but I don't think a lim there goes through today with the way people have been treating them.

Spicy that makes 2 people who don't want to vote me cause it won't go there.
I wonder why