Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Enchant]

I am Mafia Goon.

[Enchant]

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

Wdm cult game

Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.

[Enchant]

I am Mafia Goon.

VOTE: Enchant

I think you're legitimately more likely to make this post as a Mafia Goon than as anything else.

Whew.

Atleast i am not cultist.

[Enchant]

I rolled dice for person who i will blindly sheep whole d1

Now Bunnyonce is doublevoter

Glorious

[Enchant]

VOTE: Child of fairies

[Enchant]

VOTE: professotic

hi i am alive

[Enchant]

I rolled dice for person who i will blindly sheep whole d1

Now Bunnyonce is doublevoter

Glorious

Bunnyonce voting you so do i

[Enchant]

I feel like this game has been going for a while now and there's many slots that haven't really done much.

Enchant

?

T-Bone

?

furtiveglance

?

~Greeting

I am Cop

[Enchant]

VOTE: MathBlade

[Enchant]

why i voted math i forgot

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

i sleep

[Enchant]

i don't like mangos

[Enchant]

VOTE: Maid Cafe

[Enchant]

Hi sorry, I didn't forgot about game

I just didn't care to post

What i miss?

[Enchant]

I pocketed all players of this game.

Powerful charms fills this room. Even when i post this message, you will feel unresistable wish to townread me for this further, or "nulllove me".

Does it make me good player? Perhaps. Winning mafia is first not dying at day, so simple doing that, i achieve wins.

Power of wins keeps me going further.


... Or i die to vig/mafia/anyone, who know.

[Enchant]

mastina guide looks complex

[Enchant]

mastina guide looks complex

You are maf

yes oh wait i mean no

[Enchant]

there's no mafia in game

can't do shit to me

[Enchant]

I mean you might as well have told scum.

I'm either a Day 2 or Dusk 2 day vig.

I wanted to sit and get reads and fucking listen to people.

FFS I'm literally confirmable.

Just noticed it, why

[Enchant]

Afterwards these players will say "WHY ENCHANT SO SILENTIVE AS TOWN"

Duhufuduhduhduhuh

[Enchant]

Who the hell are you

[Enchant]

But then again, you're all biased, and you all refuse to reconsider that you could be wrong, and I take issue with that.

Maybe it's you biased, by blindly beliving mastina?

[Enchant]

Cause if this is what I get for trying to reason with you. So go ahead, focus on mislimming mastina while actual scum sit back and relax!!!

Okay

VOTE: mastina

[Enchant]

Then check someone else.

[Enchant]

Your problem.

[Enchant]

I am Cop.

I can only check myself.

Please believe in my checks.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

I sleep

[Enchant]

POV: We will let Yume check mastina and Yume claims "I am RBed by mafia, mafia doesn't want me to clean mastina" and we will repeat it again and again, before everyone die.

I predicted future. Now let's give mastina one day and look at my oracle powers.

[Enchant]

Just don't read it lol

I didn't read half of this game for example and i feel great

[Enchant]

Wait there's 5 mathblades in game?

[Enchant]

Yume, you already confirmed liar.

Why listen to you?

[Enchant]

Why you lied?

[Enchant]

About the check? I never did. People just assumed it was a cop check.

You said you can check 2 people.
Afterwards you denied it, saying you can only check mastina.

[Enchant]

About the check? I never did. People just assumed it was a cop check.

You said you can check 2 people.
Afterwards you denied it, saying you can only check mastina.

Nope, still can check 2 people. Those 2 people may change depending on how the gamestate goes.

So it's not "I can discover if Mastina is town" it's "I have 2-Shot ability which i want to waste on mastina to discover what i know already, so i can be disbelieved anyway because it looks like obv fakeclaim to save mastina".

I don't know what i should mock, there's so much.

[Enchant]

It's not a cop ability. How many times must I repeat that?

You are all idjits.

It's you putting fact that this check will either "CLEAR" mastina or "NOT CLEAR" mastina.

So if it's not Cop, then i wonder what it is.

[Enchant]

I, however, do wish that jjh would replace in, so I can go back to the sidelines. Trying to reason with you gives me a headache.

what if he replaces in and calls mastina scum?

Then I follow him. I can read mastina good, but he can read her better.

P-edit: There are currently two specific people and mastina is one of them, but the ability is not two-shot. It's just that mastina and one other are currently viable targets, because the game would be easier for me and everyone else alike if one or both were town in my eyes.

What the fuck

[Enchant]

I ceasing listetning to it. Good job, you achieved nothing.

[Enchant]

TOWER OF GREED

[Enchant]

I don't care about multiball, let's kill atleast someone

[Enchant]

VOTE: professotic

Idk if i did it before i just want to do it again

[Enchant]

It's hilarious, but you can sign up in as many larges, as you want.
But not more than in 4 (6? Sorry not lawyer) minis or normals or whatever i don't remember.

So therefore larges are considered low pace chills. Which is kinda wrong.


On game related:
1. I don't want to touch any of mastina/math/yume today.
Not just because i townread them, but i want this shitfest continue and it's pretty good chance all three are town somehow. Don't ask me how i achieved this idea, you will not like answer.
2. I forgot
3. Fuck multiball, really, if we elim town, it's more likely scum focus each other, if we kill scum, they focus on town, and 2 kills are higher than 1.
So day 1 basically sucks. Even more than in not multiball.

[Enchant]

I forgot about dusks and such annoyingly things, so maybe not really 2 scumkills per night, still annoying.

[Enchant]

What this game? Did i sign up here?

Huh...

[Enchant]

Mastina posts contain less than 20 lines, scum claim.

[Enchant]

It's 14 lines, not 20 still scum

[Enchant]

VOTE: Mastina

Trying to outspam

[Enchant]

mastina always used just big posts to talk

now ?????

[Enchant]

Hm

[Enchant]

So

UNVOTE:

Ya better to pick someone else. Use frozen deadline for full extent.

[Enchant]

I hammer when it makes sense. Like when i think person is scum. Then yes, i hammer without hesitance, because it's for win.
I hammer as scum when it benefits me as well.

RR role is just plausable enough.

[Enchant]

Fact it's town drived doesh't meant you didn't fuck up.

[Enchant]

I voted you for joke because you spammed.

[Enchant]

Hot take: I think

RR

’s claim is true, but he is from Lunar Cult. I don’t know what the wincons for the two scum factions are though, if they don’t have to kill each other too then it might not be making sense.

~Greeting

Possible. But it's Lunar Cult problem.

[Enchant]

Wait i mean Solar Cult.

[Enchant]

Hot take: I think

RR

’s claim is true, but he is from Lunar Cult. I don’t know what the wincons for the two scum factions are though, if they don’t have to kill each other too then it might not be making sense.

~Greeting

Possible. But it's Lunar Cult problem.

Wait i mean Solar Cult.

Lunar cult is scum faction, so it should be town's problem as well, right?

Why do you think it's not?

Fight Fire With Fire

[Enchant]

I mean hypothetically RR can be from Lunar Cult, but then killing him allows Solar to apply burns (or not idk) without resistance anyway.

[Enchant]

Why don't we think that Solar Cult have factional arsonist?

[Enchant]

Putting my 5 cents.

I think RR town. Really. Otherwise i would hammer already.

While it's right idea to say that RR is "real" but can be from Lunar, i am kinda wary of these statements, as it's easily best argument you can use and not look bad.

[Enchant]

I would give scum faction way to protect members if i was mod, so they more inclined to try eliminate opposition at days.

[Enchant]

Also idk what burns even means. It could be arsonist, poisoner, ANYTHING.

So idk

[Enchant]

Because I didn't hammer.

Interesting, but even NM refused to hammer sometimes. So...

[Enchant]

I can push if you want

[Enchant]

(shakes violently) i have to wait for a claim

Mastina said she won't because she wants to punish us or something

(But you should wait anyway in case she changes her mind)

Aha... Aha... AHAHAHAHAHHAHAA.

PUNISH.

PFFPFPFPFPFTTTTTTT!

[Enchant]

Can't wait for every townie just going "nah i punishing you for misreading me"

Fucking hilarious

[Enchant]

IN THESE HARD TIMES WHERE ONE USES OUTDATE META READS AND ANOTHER JUST GOES TO SAY "MASTINA IS INACCURATE AT DAY 1!!!!!!!" WHEN IT'S DAY 1 AND NO BASED INFO AVALIABLE, IT'S FUCKING MY TIME TO BE HERO THIS TOWN NEEDS, BUT DIDN'T DESERVE.

SHEEP ME FOOLS.

VOTE: BUNNYONCE

[Enchant]

You still calling me scum after i could hammer you at E-1 while you say "I always hammer people as any alignment and won't because RR and Enchant is team" is funny.

Don't worry. I let you live. For time being.

[Enchant]

LMAO YOU USE 2008 YEAR GAMES AS REAL VALUE IN THIS GAME.

[Enchant]

LIKE, WHY DO YOU INSIST ON POSTING WHEN MASTINA ASKED YOU NOT TO UNTIL SHE IS DONE? IF YOU WERE IN DANGER OF BEING FORCE-REPLACED, SURE, BUT NONE OF YOU ARE! SO WAIT A COUPLE OF HOURS, GEEZ! GO TAKE A WALK OR SOMETHING!!!

Personal Mastina Shitposting Ground.


Ok go play this game without me.

[Enchant]

LMAO YOU USE 2008 YEAR GAMES AS REAL VALUE IN THIS GAME.

YOU KNOW WHAT? FINE!!! KEEP MASTINA FROM CLAIMING FOR ALL I CARE! MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME!

YOU ARE THE ONES WHO WANT HER TO CLAIM

, SO BY ALL MEANS, KEEP PREVENTING YOURSELVES FROM GETTING WHAT YOU WANT!

It's Mastina insist her PR reveal RR as liar, but goes for PAGES OF POSTS instead of telling "so uh i am NAME ROLE and RR looks scummy with my existance".

[Enchant]

Fine. Continue on. I give you space.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Scarfmanship

VOTE: Scarf

VOTE: Scarfmanship

Yume:

Not sure where you're voting from memory, but if you join me here and these two are also there, we can at least go down swinging. It might not save me but it will make a statement for when I flip town. And force scum to react. Again.

Mastina: I have evidence that Radical Rat lying!
Mastina: I don't gonna tell you it though.
Mastina: *Voting Scarfs*

[Enchant]

IN THESE HARD TIMES WHERE ONE USES OUTDATE META READS AND ANOTHER JUST GOES TO SAY "MASTINA IS INACCURATE AT DAY 1!!!!!!!" WHEN IT'S DAY 1 AND NO BASED INFO AVALIABLE, IT'S FUCKING MY TIME TO BE HERO THIS TOWN NEEDS, BUT DIDN'T DESERVE.

SHEEP ME FOOLS.

VOTE: BUNNYONCE

Have I ever told you that you're secretly my favorite player?

yes

[Enchant]

Or maybe there is something that makes players feel a dire need for posting even though they aren't in prod range solely to delay mastina's catchup and claim? I dunno...

Cool.

I am next btw. I will catch up for next 24 hours in this thread. No one posts! It's game for me, me alone.
... Now you see how funny it is?

FORCED TO ANSWER OUR POSTS?
Protip: Don't read them and focus. Too hard?


Nevermind that no one will read all these mastina posts and if she actually town and die, i for example WILL NOT BOTHER to even remember about them. I not even hide that i only skimming them at this point.

[Enchant]

That's all right, because if she dies and flips town, I will just shove her posts at all of you until all of you remember them.

I will team up with both scumteams to elim you.

[Enchant]

But if you claim you are LIMITED (it's literally in name), it makes sense for RR to not be limited.

So literally ???? what your accusation is.

[Enchant]

I don't know if i have any attunmntent.

[Enchant]

Neopolitan+Strange Rolecop

[Enchant]

Imagine mastina being converted

[Enchant]

Oh and also check someone you don’t mind elimming

I think checking people who gonna get elimed is waste, they will just cover with PRs "attunement". Also real PRs will be endangered if any.

With role like this, i would't try to hit scum actually, i would try to hit town and confirm as much as possible. Like Neopolitan, ya know.

[Enchant]

Well like you do you, it's not like i can boss you around.

[Enchant]

Well, there's only one way to know for sure.

Bloody sacrifice.

[Enchant]

Where would the locktown pool be wrong?

It's not.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah

[Enchant]

What healings are for

[Enchant]

So i can vig with heals? Finally, power i deserve

[Enchant]

Wait hold on MathBlade, you can't even do it yet can you D_D

Not yet no. But if I shoot on Dusk 2 I want to shoot earlier rather than later so by having input i can shoot asap.

Yeah, smart idea to decide who you want to shot, so if you endanger someone important, scum can kill you. Or just kill you and frame person what suggested is.


No really what you was thinked?

[Enchant]

I never said i am Vanilla

[Enchant]

VOTE: Past Present Future

[Enchant]

I am jester

[Enchant]

I vote Scarf next.

[Enchant]

With that said, yeah Enchant and I would have been more optimal targets

Why

[Enchant]

With that said, yeah Enchant and I would have been more optimal targets

Why

Because we're confirmed town super masons

Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol

[Enchant]

Can't post due insomnia.

Beforehand PPF should be voted as it's highly likely guilty, and i don't really care about roleblocker part, either way we prob lose nothing even if MMR is scum (we just get them next),

[Enchant]

damn i sumbited before end

anyway vote PPF, MMT likely town

[Enchant]

Scum is trying to ram through our miselim eventhough I can be proven town.

how

[Enchant]

wdm day still didn't end?

[Enchant]

We're informed that at least one of the scum has a role almost identical to us.

Ah yes, the mafia loyal neopolitan indeed

I think it implies Mastina, who get innocents from VTs, ATTUNEMENTS from PRs and Scum.

So... Yep.

[Enchant]

Idk i building it out of nowhere, buf it fits so well.

[Enchant]

We're informed that at least one of the scum has a role almost identical to us.

Ah yes, the mafia loyal neopolitan indeed

I think it implies Mastina, who get innocents from VTs, ATTUNEMENTS from PRs and Scum.

So... Yep.

This is a terrible take and if you’re town here look elsewhere, because Mastina isn’t scum here. I will still die on that hill.

You are last person in this game i will listen on mech matters, regardless of your alignment and i think you are scum.

Denied.

[Enchant]

After consideration i think i don't know who to trust

While i realise you can botch your claim as town, but failing to tell "i am informed about scum being my double" is ridicolous and sounds like something you make up afterwards.

Therefore, i am more inclined to vote MMR now.
UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

Why you didn't say you was informed

[Enchant]

And I am willing to bet that no one who scumreads her has read her posts in their entirety.

I did.

[Enchant]

And I am willing to bet that no one who scumreads her has read her posts in their entirety.

I did.

Then prove it. Tell me what did she say in her latest post without looking at it.

Uhhh

Enchant disconnected from chat!

[Enchant]

I'm pretty sure someone else claimed to be astrologer as well but don't remember who/when

MMT.

[Enchant]

Imagine you are Town Astrologer informed about fact there's scum with role you have, you see someone claiming Limited Town Astrologer and you doing nothing with it.

[Enchant]

6 eyes

[Enchant]

Sherlock

[Enchant]

I think we should keep both Mastina and MMR alive tbh.

[Enchant]

Compounding on that
There’s no evidence of a rolestopper/blocker of any kind so by that logic MMR/PPF contains a scum.
Ergo if everyone should be voting in Mastina/MMR
And everyone should be voting in MMR/PPF

Everyone should be voting MMR no?

no

[Enchant]

Compounding on that
There’s no evidence of a rolestopper/blocker of any kind so by that logic MMR/PPF contains a scum.
Ergo if everyone should be voting in Mastina/MMR
And everyone should be voting in MMR/PPF

Everyone should be voting MMR no?

no

What is the flaw in the logic?

I know one (

very

unlikely both) of them is evil, but keeping them both alive is preferable for time being for info.

[Enchant]

Compounding on that
There’s no evidence of a rolestopper/blocker of any kind so by that logic MMR/PPF contains a scum.
Ergo if everyone should be voting in Mastina/MMR
And everyone should be voting in MMR/PPF

Everyone should be voting MMR no?

no

What is the flaw in the logic?

I know one (

very

unlikely both) of them is evil, but keeping them both alive is preferable for time being for info.

I thought that originally too when it was just Mastina.

But leaving them both alive means I have to decide it alone tomorrow.

This is a fate I don’t want.

Wait i think safe option is voting PPF.


I wouldn't touch claims yet.

[Enchant]

Honestly considering how you played, i respect Math choice, even if i disagree with it and think you could REALLY fuck up.

[Enchant]

VOTE: PPF

[Enchant]

MMR on E-1.

Do i want to hammer?

Hoho. Oh yeah. I won't though.

[Enchant]

I can play as 3 slots therefore.

[Enchant]

I can play as 3 slots therefore.

Reverse Hydra

Snake with three asses.

[Enchant]

I am never scum with MMR oh god, i would prevent this mistake of fakeclaim.

[Enchant]

I am never scum with MMR oh god, i would prevent this mistake of fakeclaim.

I'm surprised you didn't suss them more given the sketchiness of how they claimed

I didn't sus exactly because how horrible claim was.

[Enchant]

I especially find Enchant grating, but that quality of being obstinate favors a town who literally does not fucking care. It's not the same as scum pretending not to care, because it's extremely unfiltered.

Did you follow Not Quite Normal Multiball 2 at all? I'm not seeing very many differences between Enchant's play here and his play in this game (he was scum). Though anyone who was in that game I'd love another opinion on Enchant's play here.

I didn't follow it. I just get the impression he is just too obnoxious for this to be some kinda scum tactic

I am nice person

[Enchant]

Also, PPF lied about selling apples.

Really?
We tried to investigate them last Night and we received no result.
Measles think that this could be due to our Loyal modifier.
-Rubella

? Can you explain your post to us more?

Assuming that you're talking to us, we're a Loyal Rolestopper.
-Rubella

Three heads can't make fakeclaim and i protect them for this.

Belissimo.

Trying to understand why they even did this.

[Enchant]

I looked situation.

While MMR didn't receive many votes (just one), they are in pool of possible executions.

Either way, i think it's death or glory. If they hit other team, good, if they hit town, well they wasted miselim so still good than "just" dying. So i wouldn't give it much creditable, but I won't protect their target either.

It's seems like opportunistic decision, barely gived thought to it. Feared something?

I suggest to be alert on "guilties", while it's not confirmed about converts, most common way of nerfing it is "no more than * people in cult". So naturally, cults can and probably will accuse someone, and then let self die to free cult slots.

It doesn't mean we shouldn't listen, just not do it blibdly.

[Enchant]

Why the hell you shot unwnd

[Enchant]

Game didn't end, wtf

[Enchant]

Whatever

So why we pushing PPT this time

[Enchant]

So we sheep scarf

[Enchant]

PPF is bulletproof IC?

Wtf

[Enchant]

Someone who is not town

[Enchant]

from posts you quoted

[Enchant]

It remains that in the world where MMR flips lunar, PPF is still solar. If you disagree with this, you have to clearly explain a world in which it makes sense for lunar scum to sacrifice their rolecop, IN MULTIBALL, to kill a single town power role. Because if the vote went through yesterday on PPF, and PPF flipped IC bulletproof cop, MMR gets their head removed by mathblade and/or the solar kill and/or the dusk 2 vote.

[Enchant]

If this is town role, it most likely can be killed so what point?


As i said, most likely claim are last resort made up in quick. Of course, they could had info on PPF, but i don't consider this seriously.

[Enchant]

VOTE: PPF

Eh

[Enchant]

But if PPF was lunar traitor why Lunars accuse them?

[Enchant]

But if PPF was lunar traitor why Lunars accuse them?

…DDS = Lunar traitor please read

Where this intel comed from

[Enchant]

But if PPF was lunar traitor why Lunars accuse them?

…DDS = Lunar traitor please read

Where this intel comed from

It’s a theory not intel.

I have theory that you are wrong.

[Enchant]

If Math goal is antagonise people, he is fucking successfull.

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

Now you think furtive and us are aligned? He tried to out my role claim. I can’t read anymore Mathblade posts. Please make it stop.

Then don't!!!!!

Am I just supposed to not read his posts? I’m open to helpful advice so long as it’s realistic which this isn’t.

Not reading posts is easy.

Look at me

[Enchant]

Cool, i yawned and people counterwagoning me for saving scum.

[Enchant]

I am sick, so i will be even less active, not enough to VLA thou

I will try to answer questions thou if you have them

[Enchant]

VOTE: Furtiveglance

sneeze

[Enchant]

VOTE: Furtiveglance

sneeze

NM :/

Jester Departament listens. Do you have questions?

[Enchant]

did math just claim scum

[Enchant]

^

[Enchant]

That's not disagreements in reads (of course except for mine) but i just know mathblade

[Enchant]

I have guilty

[Enchant]

I wanted to write "I have guilty pleasure of watching anime" and hitted submit earlier than expected.

Also this anime was trash.

[Enchant]

something about anime magical girls

[Enchant]

What i did say before

Beliving in guilties blindly in game with possible conversation is silly

[Enchant]

i fail to see relevance of ghost claim to PPF claim as well honestly.

[Enchant]

I have role-related knowledge that someone either tried to kill Meuh

or

used a negative utility action on her during the “Noon” phase

Yume has been my strongest tr since I unvoted her, so that makes CSF pretty much locktown for me.

And this also makes it extremely likely that I was right about Mastina being town.

@Prof

Why are people ignoring this? MMR spewed Meuh not Lunar and how does CSF gets this result if Meuh is Solar?

CSF is Lunar poisoning Solar Meuh.
CSF is lying.

I consider very few people not Lunar because MMR’s claim seems so bad to be intentional.

I don’t believe scum!Yume replaces out right after Mastina’s force replaced. Even FA who was sr Mastina agreed with me on Yume.

What a nonsense, it's NAI.

[Enchant]

I scumread firebringer for scumreading junko for the memes

[Enchant]

So can Math shot or not

[Enchant]

not until tomorrow i guess

Correct tomorrow I can shoot.

Then what point in you intemidating PPF at this point.

[Enchant]

I'm going to posit that our slot is a VERY unlikely recruit target due to constantly being rather low in the thread's consensus reads and neither of us being renowned for an especially strong scum game, on top of being confirmed to not be Solar.

Did someone accuse you of being convert i missed

Otherwise what this for

[Enchant]

Well yeah possible, but what this selfdefense for then

[Enchant]

Why i am not likely convert in your eyes

[Enchant]

Why would scum be double-punished for eliminating a traitor in this hypothetical
They'd already be eliminating a member of their faction, why would they also have their entire scumteam vanillaised on top of that

cuz mod evil

[Enchant]

huh

professotic, explain

[Enchant]

You know game kinda achieved this moment where with votes on me hard to argue

I am ridiculously lost

[Enchant]

So we're a Town Illuminator
Every Night/Noon, we can target someone and they'll see who targets them that phase, minus ourselves
If no one else targets them, they'll be told no one targeted them
Effectively it's a 'target this player and they get to self-watch for the night'

Night 1 we illuminated T-Bone
Noon 1 we illuminated Ydrasse
Night 2 we illuminated Scarfmanship

I call bullshit on this role

[Enchant]

Actually let me think

[Enchant]

Mmm.

Yeah, bullshit.

[Enchant]

I received the failed burn message on Noon 1 to be clear. I didn't receive a message at any other point.

Unless burner is literal ninja, T-Bone should had received two messages

One that they got burned
And second is message telling WHO did that

[Enchant]

Confusing as fuck

[Enchant]

Either way i also lied

[Enchant]

If everyone reveal lies, i also should.

I am Mafia Goon.

This is fakeclaim.

[Enchant]

I'm not sure. He doesn't feel that scummy to me.
...but I'm now remembering that I said almost this exact sentence before in another game where Enchant was scum
I'll consider it

Fun fact:
I am was mafia MORE THAT ONCE.

Does it make me mafia in this game is different matter. Experts say "fuck we don't know don't ask us"

[Enchant]

I'm not sure. He doesn't feel that scummy to me.
...but I'm now remembering that I said almost this exact sentence before in another game where Enchant was scum
I'll consider it

Fun fact:
I am was mafia MORE THAT ONCE.

Does it make me mafia in this game is different matter. Experts say "fuck we don't know don't ask us"

This post reads like "I'm being scumread for the wrong reasons"

This post reads as "Enchant questioned really stupid argument, but i need him to die, so cover it in mud".

[Enchant]

No really, i legally can't be scumread for questioning silly arguments.

You making self bad.

[Enchant]

Would be nice if anyone actually had some sort of substantial defence of Enchant instead of very vague townreads

I'm town, fyi

Hypocrite level: High

[Enchant]

You also need to accuse me constructively.

You suck at it.

[Enchant]

Cool. My counterpoint: Your avatar ugly.

VOTE: Meuh

[Enchant]

Can we kill atleast SOME scum, how you even deduce which of which, because i hell have no idea

[Enchant]

VOTE: Ydrasse[/v]

E-2.

[Enchant]

Actually why

I stay on Meuh

[Enchant]

Too fast to agree on porkens huh?

[Enchant]

Too fast to agree on porkens huh?

Why are you voting for meuh

why are you not voting for meuh

[Enchant]

Too fast to agree on porkens huh?

It's a quality of life flip that might also flip scum. It's not a bad bargain.

well maybe

but it's betting on luck

VOTE: Porkens

[Enchant]

Can't sun fanatics have hypnotist to try to sway burn healer from real targets?

[Enchant]

But then i wonder what they did whole time instead

[Enchant]

Can't sun fanatics have hypnotist to try to sway burn healer from real targets?

What prompted you to ask this?

Hypnotist death and burn healer existance.

Building claim on teammate is pretty silly in my opinion.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Rat

Well

[Enchant]

I am innocent tho

[Enchant]

Aren't reason "received town PM" are permanent and can't change at all.

WELL UNLESS WE ARE CULT GAME

[Enchant]

Well i have feeling protected every scum in this game

I am not sure if i even should exist regardless if i am town or not. So arguments on me are fair. Kinda can't say anything to it.

[Enchant]

ask something i would know

[Enchant]

The quicker the better

VT

[Enchant]

ask something i would know

Hello Enchant, I’m new to this game. I haven’t had the opportunity to catch up on your slot just yet, so how does the game look from your perspective?

i dunno, both scumteams do something unsenseble and i protect them for that

[Enchant]

Aaaand I've just realised why Prof wants to hit Lunar today, and I agree that should be higher priority than Solar

Why btw

[Enchant]

The way I see it, there are probably 7 town left in this game and we have to have 6 people for an elimination
If you're town you really need to be willing to work with the other town at this point

Well i am not refusing tho

[Enchant]

Ok
Who do u think the scum are and why

Alternatively
Who do u think the town are!
And why

T-Bone

[Enchant]

Yes you can

What are your current reads?

Also @Enchant, tr anyone besides T-Bone?

fully only him because he claimed mason which is obviously fake but i buying

[Enchant]

After consideration i think i don't know who to trust

While i realise you can botch your claim as town, but failing to tell "i am informed about scum being my double" is ridicolous and sounds like something you make up afterwards.

Therefore, i am more inclined to vote MMR now.
UNVOTE:

Why you didn't say you was informed

I'm pretty sure someone else claimed to be astrologer as well but don't remember who/when

MMT.

Imagine you are Town Astrologer informed about fact there's scum with role you have, you see someone claiming Limited Town Astrologer and you doing nothing with it.

6 eyes

Sherlock

I think we should keep both Mastina and MMR alive tbh.

Compounding on that
There’s no evidence of a rolestopper/blocker of any kind so by that logic MMR/PPF contains a scum.
Ergo if everyone should be voting in Mastina/MMR
And everyone should be voting in MMR/PPF

Everyone should be voting MMR no?

no

So this is what’s confusing me about Enchant he calls out MMR on botched fakeclaim but then disagrees with Math that they should be the lim. So I don’t know what to make of that. It makes sense of course that he unvoted us but then if you think the informed part of their role is bs wrt to Mastina, then why would you be opposed tolimming them? That’s the part that’s not making sense to me. I just don’t understand this pivot.

As i said, it was so poorly executed, i actually falled for it being VI.

[Enchant]

Well i have feeling protected every scum in this game

I am not sure if i even should exist regardless if i am town or not. So arguments on me are fair. Kinda can't say anything to it.

ask something i would know

Hello Enchant, I’m new to this game. I haven’t had the opportunity to catch up on your slot just yet, so how does the game look from your perspective?

i dunno, both scumteams do something unsenseble and i protect them for that

What's your thought process on this, why do you feel this way?

Well i protected MMT for dumb claim, i falled for burn doctor claim and again falled for it because thought scum won't claim something which makes them obvious on death of other maf.

Bogus.

[Enchant]

Right, but
When are you going to start doing things that help town win
You don't have to be right to make that happen you just have to try

If i inhale i exhale

If i exhale i breathing

If i breathing i living

If i living, i wield vote


So yeah i already doing it

[Enchant]

I will look at game today and give my opinion seriously (it means without trolling)

Like seriously, right now i am busy.

[Enchant]

Oh yeah i didn't forgot.

[Enchant]

Trying to collect everything first.

Ded:
1.

Radical Rat. Cultist. Eliminated at Dusk 3 (D5)

Spoiler: Role

Vanilla. Most likely gamestart.

Spoiler: Minds

Got runned down on First Dusk (D1), so claimed something for which teammate had him covered. Bunnyounce doubted and said that RR could still be Lunar with this role... And was eliminated. Need to look who supported this idea.

Spoiler: Minds

Forgotten. No really, i only remembered because "uh someone was janitored where it was".
Everyone assume this slot as town seems. I don't really care, let's go with that but they are not confirmed as town.

9. Bunnyonce (Hydra of Aisa and Greeting). Vanilla Townie. Eliminated at Dusk 1 (D1).

10.

MMR (Hydra of Ircher, RH9, and Roden). Lunar Starmaster. Eliminated at Dawn 1 (D2).

Spoiler: Role

Passively rolecops all targets of factional ability. If target was from Solar Cult, result will be "Vanilla" regardless.

12.

Maid Cafe/Toogeloo/Porkens. Hypnotist. Eliminated Dawn 2 (D4).

Spoiler: Role

At Noons (Even-Night) can force target to receive one of messages:
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."

Spoiler: Minds

I don't think Porkens was seriously suspected to be main elim. Everyone just got bored of waiting. Overall Porkens elimination leads to two Solars deaths, so... not surprised.

13.

Korina/Mathblade. Novice Dusk Knight. Killed Noon 2 (N4)

Spoiler: Role

Dusk Vig (Odd-Day). Need to kill player of different faction everytime, or they will die. It means can't kill more than 2 faction members from one faction. Perfect balance against overcompetent vig (or bad one)

14.

Furtiveglance. Vanilla Townie. Eliminated Dusk 2 (D3)

17.

radja/unwnd. Vanilla Townie. Killed Dusk 2 (D3) by MathBlade.

Game:
Dusk > Night > Dawn > Noon

Dusk 1: Bunnyonce eliminated (Vanilla Townie)
Night 1: professotic disappeared
Dawn 1: MMR eliminated (Lunar Starmaster)
Noon 1: No one Died.
Dusk 2: unwnd was shot by Mathblade (Vanilla Townie) and then Furtiveglance was eliminated (Vanilla Townie). professotic returned.
Night 2: No one Died.
Dawn 2: Porkens Eliminated (Solar Hypnotist).
Noon 2: MathBlade Killed (Town Novice Dusk Knight).
Dusk 3: Radical Rat Eliminated (Solar Cultist)
Dawn 3: Goes on.


Only one player killed at nights (or noons who cares) and it was MathBlade.

Alive:
3 professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac). Disappeared Night 1 but came back at end of Dusk 2 (D3).
2. Mastina/Nero Cain/Meuh
4. Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (Hydra with Klick and Bellaphant) (CAN'T BE GAMESTART SOLAR)
5. Child of Fairies/Scarfmanship/Junkochan/Magician
6. Past Present Future (Hydra of Nancy Drew 39, Titus, and Auro)
7. Yume/Cat Scratch Fever

8. Enchant. Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Minds

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

11. Frozen Angel/Firebringer
15. Save the Dragons/Ydrasse
16. T-Bone

How much scum gamestart prediction:
4 Lunars and 4 Solars are too much. It would make game 9 Town, 8 Scum. Of course it's seems balanced around fact that scum can crosskill, but i doubt this balance.
3 Lunars and 3 Solars are actually i expect us to have. 11 Town, 6 Scum.
2 Lunars and 2 Solars if they have conversion power. 13 Town, 4 Scum. That's on Start.
* Lunars and * Solars if only one have conversion power. Converts will have only 2 members as balance. Other scumteam could had 3 instead.
Other. I can't predict that. Neither can you.


Will look at living PRs later i wasted 6 hours on it... It's pain to sort.

[Enchant]

When it’s confirmed it’s 3 on each team.

where it comed from

[Enchant]

Fun!

unwnd is attuned with the sun

. Therefore not aligned with the lunar cult.
I vaguely recall people saying unwnd was weird with the wagon on the person who just flipped lunar? I saw that on the last page. I picked unwd cause of that + Mastina having unwnd low on reads.

Yup. Aside from that tidbit I got on dusk 1,

on noon 1 I checked Unwnd, who was lunar attuned

. On noon 2, I checked PPF, who is solar attuned (therefore not aligned with the lunar cult). That's the info I've got so far.

hm

[Enchant]

Well anyway. Updating.

Ded:
1.

Radical Rat. Cultist. Eliminated at Dusk 3 (D5)

Spoiler: Role

Vanilla. Most likely gamestart.

Spoiler: Minds

Got runned down on First Dusk (D1), so claimed something for which teammate had him covered. Bunnyounce doubted and said that RR could still be Lunar with this role... And was eliminated. Need to look who supported this idea.

9. Bunnyonce (Hydra of Aisa and Greeting). Vanilla Townie. Eliminated at Dusk 1 (D1).

10.

MMR (Hydra of Ircher, RH9, and Roden). Lunar Starmaster. Eliminated at Dawn 1 (D2).

Spoiler: Role

Passively rolecops all targets of factional ability. If target was from Solar Cult, result will be "Vanilla" regardless.

12.

Maid Cafe/Toogeloo/Porkens. Hypnotist. Eliminated Dawn 2 (D4).

Spoiler: Role

At Noons (Even-Night) can force target to receive one of messages:
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."

Actions:
Noon 1: T-Bone (Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!)
Noon 2:

Spoiler: Minds

I don't think Porkens was seriously suspected to be main elim. Everyone just got bored of waiting. Overall Porkens elimination leads to two Solars deaths, so... not surprised.

13.

Korina/Mathblade. Novice Dusk Knight. Killed Noon 2 (N4)

Spoiler: Role

Dusk Vig (Odd-Day). Need to kill player of different faction everytime, or they will die. It means can't kill more than 2 faction members from one faction. Perfect balance against overcompetent vig (or bad one)

Actions:
Dusk 2 (d2): unwnd

14.

Furtiveglance. Vanilla Townie. Eliminated Dusk 2 (D3)

17.

radja/unwnd. Vanilla Townie. Killed Dusk 2 (D3) by MathBlade.

Game:
Dusk > Night > Dawn > Noon

Dusk 1: Bunnyonce eliminated (Vanilla Townie)
Night 1: professotic disappeared
Dawn 1: MMR eliminated (Lunar Starmaster)
Noon 1: No one Died.
Dusk 2: unwnd was shot by Mathblade (Vanilla Townie) and then Furtiveglance was eliminated (Vanilla Townie). professotic returned.
Night 2: No one Died.
Dawn 2: Porkens Eliminated (Solar Hypnotist).
Noon 2: MathBlade Killed (Town Novice Dusk Knight).
Dusk 3: Radical Rat Eliminated (Solar Cultist)
Dawn 3: Goes on.


Only one player killed at nights (or noons who cares) and it was MathBlade.

Alive:
3. professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac). Disappeared Night 1 (N1) but came back at end of Dusk 2 (D3). 1-Shot Astral Ghost.

Spoiler: Role

At Night can disappear and all actions on him will fail.
While gone inherits 1-shot abilities.

Actions:
Night 1: Used
Dusk 2 (D3): Appeared again

Spoiler: Minds

Informed about 3-people scum confirmed? Where from? Need to interrogate.

2. Mastina/Nero Cain/Meuh. Limited Astrologer.

Spoiler: Role

At Noon (Even-Night) target character and receive attunement: Sun or Moon. People with Sun can't be Lunar. People with Moon can't be Solar.
Can't target MathBlade and Dingle. There's really no reason to forbid that usage of ability if you think: Mod can just make trollface and give information which already was revealed. So i give it doubt but can't build case on it.


Actions:
Noon 1 (N2): unwnd. Result: Sun. (?)
Noon 2 (N4): PPF. Result: Sun.

Spoiler: Minds

Mastina called RR out when he claimed. It need to be considered. At best it clears this slot from being Solar. Probably.
Role is most likely real. It doesh't mean Meuh is 100% innocent, but i hardly can think how this ability can be used by any scumteam.

Meuh contradicting self. That's strange, but with these dusks lunars solars and etc... Interrogation needed.

4. Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (Hydra with Klick and Bellaphant). Eluminator. Not Gamestart Solar.

Spoiler: Role

Security Guard+Visionary combo basically. Target will know who targeted them and what they did?

Actions:
Night 1: T-Bone
Noon 1: Ydrasse
Night 2: Scarfmanship
Noon 2: PPT. Acknowlidged that Meuh targeted them.
Night 3: ? Didn't find sorry.

Spoiler: Minds

It hurts to admit but i townread. I think. I bunnyhop on this.

5. Child of Fairies/Scarfmanship/Junkochan/Magician. Didn't claim.

Spoiler: Minds

I think i cheaptownread him like i like

6. Past Present Future (Hydra of Nancy Drew 39, Titus, and Auro). Can't be Lunar (If Meuh inno). Claims something interacting with game phases.

Spoiler: Role

Interacts with game phases if they die?...

Spoiler: Minds

Huh... If claim true, then maybe that suicidal play to get PPF killed at all cost makes sense if Lunars knew that via passive ability? But then what factional ability Lunars have?

7. Yume/Cat Scratch Fever. Some unknown shit.

Spoiler: Role

Yume claimed it only works on Mastina and one other person. It actually checks out as Meuh was targeted, but there's no info otherwise. Yume also claimed it can somehow clear mastina. It won't. Need more info.

Noon 1: Meuh was targeted by kill/negative utility.

Spoiler: Minds

Will wait fullclaim

8. Enchant. Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Minds

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

11. Frozen Angel/Firebringer. Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Minds

I dislike Firebringer

15. Save the Dragons/Ydrasse. Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Minds

No fucking clue

16. T-Bone. Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Minds

First to cast doubt on RR. It actually means a lot. Firebringer missed it for example.
Our minds actually align somewhat.

Fuck this game literally fucking dusks noons and fucking other makes it literally unplayable

I sleep. Will think more tomorrow if not turn insane.

[Enchant]

Good news: I have insomnia.
Bad news: I still here.