Warrior Cats Mafia: StarClan PT

[Ydrasse]

soft note that there are no spoilers here, including quoting from pts, etc.

Neighborhoods count as spoilers???

Huh.

for now. :>

[mastina]

I'm in this weird spot where Titus looks scum by play and where she is focusing, but she is still bringing up damning points against the actual guaranteed scum.

She even voted Norwee briefly.

But then she swapped to the lazy-ass T3 wagon (I should note that it being lazy doesn't mean that it can't be scum, since scum would see T3 as deadweight, but given my reads, I believe in this case it's a lazy wagon on town) on literally the same page, so like...

...Still scum, I think???

I legitimately feel like there's 2-4 scum in Norwee/Alisae/S_S/Titus.

If I HAD to guess a fifth, it'd be PP, although I'm not confident in that.

I know that Norwee is scum here, and knowing that he's scum gives me an idea for who the other scum are. (Namely, I am 80% sure that this is Aliaae's scum meta.)

[mastina]

For the record:
Both sides of the Titus-PenguinPower fight look like scum.
Titus looks like scum from it.
PenguinPower looks like scum from it.
Both individually look like scum from it and it reeks of being scum theater, especially with how noncommittal it was.

That said.

Is it?

Who knows! (Well, Ydrasse.)

But I'm still gonna lock in a tentative scumteam of {Norwee, Alisae, Something_Smart, Titus, PenguinPower}.

[mastina]

Alisae, catboi, Charloux, Datisi, NorwegianboyEE, Bell, KittyTacky, Dannflor, Mistyx, SCRRRDBEAR, Titus, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Marashu, Shiro, Something_Smart, Val89, T3, PenguinPower

{catboi, Datisi, Dannflor} are always town here, 100%.
I believe the clan leaders are all town, and individually Charloux has decent reason to be town. So {Charloux, Shiro} both town.
{Marashu} is town by play here always even without the Shiro defense.
{Val89, fireisredsir, Bell} are all town by play. fire and Bell by meta, too.

{T3, KittyTacky} both are mislims in the making. KittyTacky in particular has actually been incredibly town, here. Posts look town, pushes look town, by meta is town, etc. And T3 is just...well, T3. And not the scum T3.

So like.

The scum pool is quite small.

Norwee, Mistyx, Bear, Titus, Cephrir, Something_Smart, and PenguinPower.

Mistyx feels town to me quite strongly.

And Cephrir feels town to me somewhat.

Which leaves a list looking a bit like this for the PoE:


{Mistyx}

{Cephrir}

{SCRRRDBEAR}

{PenguinPower}
{Titus}
{Something_Smart} (Something_Smart is about equal but slightly more scum to Titus. Titus is about equal but slightly more scum to PenguinPower. So these three were almost one line, but Something_Smart is notably more scum than PenguinPower so three different lines seemed apt.)

{Alisae}

{NorwegianboyEE}

8 possible names for 5 scum, and with the townread on Mistyx, I kinda want it to be 7. (I have to respect Cephrir enough to not eliminate him but I almost did so this was almost 6.)

[mastina]

I got nowhere over night btw. Just talked in circles with myself.

It's

almost

like eliminating me when I am town doesn't actually do anything for you!

Who'da thought???

[mastina]

my only vibe from Titus previously was "disengaged" but I don't think that's AI

In of itself, no. Titus being disengaged is not alignment indicative.

It's the

way

Titus is disengaged. It's what she's doing while disengaged and not doing while disengaged which is the tell, and those are what made me scumread Titus this game.

[mastina]

Mastina is also confirmed town and I'm like 80% sure that the wagon was fanned by scum.

Shiro, Dannflor, fireisredsir, Val89, Bell,

PenguinPower, NorwegianboyEE, Alisae, Titus

, Marashu, Mistyx

I mean--yes.

The scum did not

start

the wagon. But they fanned it and joined it to force it through.

My scumread on Norwee was never going away (because, uh, duh? Soulread. I know I'm not wrong on him, my read on him is better than a cop check would be), so I was always going to be a threat--every extra name I was right on being scum adds extra incentive; every name I was right on being town that was at the risk of being wagoned adds extra incentive.

I was a

threat

to the scum. Just that I had Norwee lockscummed due to being able to soulread him was enough to make me one; anything beyond that only elevates the threat.

[mastina]

I’m sure Mastina is cheering for you in dead thread, but fact is that they were simply wrong and didn’t have a good point other than whatever the fuck a "soulread" means for them.

For the record, Norwee is quite aware of what I mean by being able to soulread him. Here is a good example.

[mastina]

would it be Bad and Wrong of me to think that the FA kill makes it more likely that one of the leaders is scum

Did FA claim to be leader in thread?

Also for the record, the town must be morons because literally everything about this was public D1.

Charloux claimed to be a leader D1;
FA claimed to be a leader D1;
Shiro was revealed to be Thunderclan's leader D1;
Dannflor claimed to be a leader D1.
(All four leaders were known D1.)

The members of Thunderclan publicly revealed themselves D1. We instantly knew it was Alisae+Norwee+T3slot+Shiro+Val because they told us.

Riverclan was outed as being FA+Mistyx+Cephrir+Bell+fire (this is an all-town clan btw). (Don't remember if they outed being River, but the members were known.)
Windclan was outed as being Marashu+Bear+Charloux+Penguin+KittyTacky. (Don't remember if they outed being Wind, but the members were known.)

Shadowclan wasn't outed in any area of the game I read, but at some point during my hell week apparently it was revealed.

All four clans, their leaders, their compositions, even their names--all of it was available, and KNOWN, D1.

Why are people acting like it wasn't known on D1, on D2?

It was all things that *I* knew while I was alive.

[Ydrasse]

norwee’s alignment issss

Spoiler:

town

[mastina]

(I realize that Norwee made that post and is scum, but plenty of players on D2 in my skimming said similar remarks about not knowing--were they just not paying attention???
Like, I didn't even get to read all of D1. I was overwhelmed. I wasn't able to see everything. I only could see a little. And yet, I knew all four leaders, stated who they were in my readslist, and knew who was in which clans, all on D1, because all the info was available on D1. Did they just...forget? Or just not think about it? Not do the mental math??? It was genuinely all known from like 300 posts into the game which clans had which members.)

[mastina]

norwee’s alignment issss

Spoiler:

town

Spoiler:

oh

[Ydrasse]

norwee’s alignment issss

Spoiler:

town

Spoiler:

oh

Spoiler:

sorry, i couldn’t bear you not knowing while solving lol, that’s the only free one though

[mastina]

norwee’s alignment issss

Spoiler:

town

Spoiler:

oh

Spoiler:

sorry, i couldn’t bear you not knowing while solving lol, that’s the only free one though

Spoiler:

I realize having a freebie makes it easier to have a correct knowledge base and make a solve.

But honestly, that was the one read you shouldn't have told me I was wrong about because now I just...don't wanna exist in mafia right now.
I honestly just.
Am gone.

[Frozen Angel]

would it be Bad and Wrong of me to think that the FA kill makes it more likely that one of the leaders is scum

Did FA claim to be leader in thread?

Also for the record, the town must be morons because literally everything about this was public D1.

Charloux claimed to be a leader D1;
FA claimed to be a leader D1;
Shiro was revealed to be Thunderclan's leader D1;
Dannflor claimed to be a leader D1.
(All four leaders were known D1.)

The members of Thunderclan publicly revealed themselves D1. We instantly knew it was Alisae+Norwee+T3slot+Shiro+Val because they told us.

Riverclan was outed as being FA+Mistyx+Cephrir+Bell+fire (this is an all-town clan btw). (Don't remember if they outed being River, but the members were known.)
Windclan was outed as being Marashu+Bear+Charloux+Penguin+KittyTacky. (Don't remember if they outed being Wind, but the members were known.)

Shadowclan wasn't outed in any area of the game I read, but at some point during my hell week apparently it was revealed.

All four clans, their leaders, their compositions, even their names--all of it was available, and KNOWN, D1.

Why are people acting like it wasn't known on D1, on D2?

It was all things that *I* knew while I was alive.

Its so weird right?

I scum read bell so hard right now for acting like he didn't know it at all in the riverclan chat when it was obvious he knew? he was following my posts and asking me things like why am I town all day.

I wonder why no one is catching up on that

[Frozen Angel]

You're wrong about one of leaders and they didn't claim to be leader btw

but yeah

[T3]

Never replacing into a large theme ever again

[DkKoba]

this is a Game

[DkKoba]

if anyone knows anyone who could be reached out to to replace in let us know, its been slow replacment wise and a lot od the common replace ins are already in the game atp

[mastina]

Clearly since the only slot whose alignment I know is Norwee's I can replace in as that slot.




(This is a joke obv since not only do I know shadowclan talk but also I think site staff made that illegal anyways. But I still wanted to have some fun.)

[Marashu]

I'm a bit relieved I was the target; it gives leaders another day of activating PRs and it confirms a townie. I feel like a leader might have been targeted N2, but with the many replacements, I think it became more useful to eliminate one of the masons rather than one of the switch-ins. Wasn't sure between myself and Enchant; I'd been around since the start but was having a hard time people out.

I did leave Enchant some of my thoughts as well as a "last request" if I died.

[Marashu]

I don't think there is one scum per PT because it would encourage dumb gameplay like chainlimming everyone in a clan to find scum. I have reasons to think ThunderClan is pure for example and

nobody from it died so far.

Wow, tell me how you really feel.

[Marashu]

On the one hand I'm kinda believing Titus. On the other hand, didn't Titus say their ability was blocked by Apprentice? So are they a gated UB?

I guess at the time the thread thought it was only leaders and warriors so anyone who wasn't a leader was an apprentice. So maybe I'm wrong in believing Titus? I don't even know.

[Titus]

Yeah, solve the game get limmed. Par for the course. Why try?

[mastina]

Yeah, solve the game get limmed. Par for the course. Why try?

A question that I ask myself every time these days.

(Granted, I didn’t ACTUALLY solve the game, but I THOUGHT that I did, and I got eliminated for it, so.........)