Newbie 2104 | Mafia Private Thread

[Sterling the steampunk]

I'm afraid to claim a power role, because it's too easy to get counter claimed, that's how they get you in ToS

[catboi]

you don't need to claim one NOW, to be clear - that's only IF you get 4 votes on you.

[Sterling the steampunk]

Makes sense

[Sterling the steampunk]

I want to jump on the fennec bandwagon, but I need a good reason to, what excuse do you see me having to do that?

[catboi]

I don't think you need to right away. Be patient. wait to see if someone else will vote fennec.

[Sterling the steampunk]

yeah, that what i was thinking too

[Sterling the steampunk]

Despite the high pressure on me, I'm not too worried about our changes of winning, as they don't suspect us working together so if I go down you'll be fine, but I'm sorry anyways

[catboi]

while that's true, you have enough defenders that i don't think you get flipped day 1.

it's okay. just take it as a learning experience. What you have to be careful about as a newer player is providing good justification for your votes, and your one on fennec was a little too bandwagony, a little too reliant on leaning on what other people were saying

Making votes that look good is hard, it trip up a lot of newer players. You should try to write arguments from the mindset you'd have as town. s I was told it, a lot of your cases as town will be incorrect so you can just use the same arguments as scum

[catboi]

You need to be talking a little more than what you're doing right now. fake reads of some sort.

[catboi]

If you want help on what to say, I can try to give you advice. I think a possible strategy is to complain about how you're trying but don't know what you're doing and are being treated unfairly by people who expect too much from you.

[catboi]

If you are run up and asked to claim, you have a couple options as to what to claim:

Cop or Jailkeeper. this WILL get you counter claimed, but it will out the power role(s) in the process which is vital for us to be able to be win.

Doctor. there is a

chance

you can survive with this claim, if it's the setup with the cop. there's a little risk involved in that case just because having an active copcan be dangerous, but if you want to stay alive and learn to play more, This is the best option.

Tracker. similar to doctor, you can survive if it's the jailkeeper setup. you being alive day 2 might be a little more questionable.


In the strongest possible terms, I do not recommend you claim vanilla town here. That is a move that can work for some players, but it takes finesse to pull it off, and I don't think you're at that level yet. Nothing wrong with that, it's a very hard thing to do, and the risks involved are immense - you dying day 1 without outing a power role very strongly risks this turning into an automatic loss for our team.

You are in a bad position through mostly no fault of your own but it is still possible for you to make plays that will lead us to victory, so don't fret.

[catboi]

if you see this, the thing to do, I think, is come in and refuse to claim, act very stubborn about it, and then claim when I vote you. Can you do that?

[Sterling the steampunk]

yeah, that a good idea, let's go

[Sterling the steampunk]

actually, I don't think being stubborn and refusing to claim would be my style, considering that would get you lynched in ToS, I'll think it's better for me to claim now

[Sterling the steampunk]

going with the cop claim

[Sterling the steampunk]

I don't mind getting lynched because they don't suspect us working together

[Sterling the steampunk]

opps, I used the forbidden word twice, and there's no edit button that I can see

[catboi]

actually, I don't think being stubborn and refusing to claim would be my style, considering that would get you lynched in ToS, I'll think it's better for me to claim now

this isn't town of salem and you can't play as if it is. different people have different expectations and will read behaviors in a different fashion. you have to understand your audience.

and that's correct you're not allowed to edit posts in mafia games because otherwise it'd be exploitable.

[catboi]

this should be obvious, but faustiv is trying to test you, you do not get an investigation on night 0.

[Sterling the steampunk]

sorry, it's a learning experience, I do think she's is the real cop so if I'm eliminated kill her tonight, also she's trying to out the power roles because she's asking if anyone can prove my claim false without outing their real role, which if they comply we can kill them tonight because they're a threat, because it's either a jailor, cop (in which case we can just kill them tomorrow and be safe from PRs) or masons (which if only one claims the other will have no use left)

[Sterling the steampunk]

wait, I can't investigate N1? that's useful infomation

[Sterling the steampunk]

oh, I get it now, I don't see anything that says I can't investigate N1, but I can invest before day 1

[Sterling the steampunk]

*can't invest before D1

[catboi]

sorry, it's a learning experience, I do think she's is the real cop so if I'm eliminated kill her tonight, also she's trying to out the power roles because she's asking if anyone can prove my claim false without outing their real role, which if they comply we can kill them tonight because they're a threat, because it's either a jailor, cop (in which case we can just kill them tomorrow and be safe from PRs) or masons (which if only one claims the other will have no use left)

i do not think kirigiri is the real cop.

[Sterling the steampunk]

I think I know why you say that but want to hear your reasoning