Newbie 2104 | Mafia Private Thread

[catboi]

Because if he were I do not believe he starts this elaborate chain of asking people for claims. You're jumping at shadows.

It's possible a player doesn't immediately counter you but if they do decide to hide it I expect them to pay dumb about it.

[Sterling the steampunk]

makes sense

[catboi]

i

think

thyn is trying to push you without a direct counter claim and that's a much stronger indicator he's a PR here

hope i'm right because if i'm wrong i'm doomed

[Sterling the steampunk]

honestly if you think he's a power role take him out tonight, because I didn't expect to get though the day

[catboi]

Stop posting. You've been hammered, you're dead, you're flipping mafia, saying anything further is just potentially giving more info to the town.

[Sterling the steampunk]

I've been hammered?

[Sterling the steampunk]

oh yeah, I've have been hammered, well GG

[catboi]

I didn't necessarily expect people to jump on you the way they did, and that's my mistake. Maybe they picked up on the same thing I did. I don't know. Sorry about this. Wish I could have done better.

[Sterling the steampunk]

no, I wish I could have done better, you did great, well keep on going, I have faith in you

[catboi]

meh, again, you're new, this is supposd to hlp you out and I feel like I didn't do enough in that regard.

I could probably have gone harder defending you but - I think that is probably a losing strategy in the long run. My thinking is I shouldn't...prioritize letting you live longer over winning the game, because that sort of paints a backwards picture of the game. It's not

always

in your best interest to keep every scumbuddy alive at all costs. although of course what I've done now is very risky as well. Hopefully I can pull it off.

[Sterling the steampunk]

well they don't suspect us of being together, so that's fine

[Sterling the steampunk]

Also I know that sometimes the only thing you can do is put pressure on your partner when they are a sunk ship, I knew I was done as soon as kk jumped on me for riding the fennec bandwagon.

[Dannflor]

Hi Sterling, I’ll let you keep posting here until I post the flip I’m about 6 hours.

After that, you will continue being able to view the thread and seeing catboi’s thoughts on the game

[Sterling the steampunk]

hey catboi, keep me informed on what you thinking here okay?

[catboi]

hey catboi, keep me informed on what you thinking here okay?

yeah sure thing I'll keep a running diary

I'm not the most analytical scum player do like a lot of how I operate is simply by instinct

[catboi]

In a basic sense losing a teammate on day 1 in a 9p is never good because it means a bunch of people will be cleared as town off the flip. You can bus, as I did, but there is a further risk: in a setup with an investigative role, they can end up clearing players, or worse yet, guiltying the remaining mafia player into a loss. If this is the 2 mason setup, there's no risk. If there's a cop that's a big risk, if there's a jailkeeper that's really terrible for me because they can produce 2 clears even if i shoot them night 2. and there's a nonzero chance I'd be targeted by them.

It was for this reason that I asked you to claim to draw out who's a PR. I

think

thynhith coming out so strongly and insisting sterling had slipped was a giveaway - that was a soft counterclaim. In general even when people aren't explicitly claiming you can usually gauge by their reactions to a PR claim whether they're vanilla or not. The fact that wingfan and thyn reacted that way means they likely aren't it, neither is kkirigiri since she was trying to see if people would counter.

the biggest wild cards obviously would be maestro and fennec's slot since they weren't present. I'm gambling on it being thyn. It being anyone else is a real problem.


Hopefully I get this right. If I don't then there's not much to teach beyond "try harder not to lose a teammate on Day 1".

[catboi]

kill: thynhith

[Dannflor]

Action recieved.

[catboi]

I was busy doing stuff for a game I'm modding yesterday and lost a step, which is not great

normally here I'd want to get ahead of the narrative somewhat and by not talking i cede the floor and faustiv has gotten suspicious in the meantime. I think I can beat back the accusations but unlike his Day 1 there's actually a hint of the truth in what he's saying here, in that he correctly read how I handled sterling's claim/thyn's counter.

[catboi]

in my view maestro and kkirigiri are players I'm never going to be able to push and the likely next two nightkills. anyone beyond that is fair game. I think getting faustiv out of the way is preferable for me but I don't want to appear too eager to push him here.

[catboi]

faustiv's explanations are logically inconsistent and i can pick at that to tear him apart. part of the game is just rhetoric - regardless of who's right or truthful what matters more is being able to present ideas in a way that will convince people. if someone's logic is bad it's very easy to defeat that and make them look bad even if they have a good read.

[catboi]

temptation is to just hammer and end the day but slight concern it'll reflect badly on me

obnoxious that I have to wait on two people probably flaking on the game though

[catboi]

I am damn near spent, energy-wise. I plan to give it my all going into Day 3 but I think things are likely to be stacked against me. There's 2 players who are likely to go against me and all the game needs is a 3rd and it's over.

wingfan is the worst type of player to deal with: utterly resistant to any logic that isn't his own. I shouldn't have responded so aggressively to him, that type of player tends to take things personally and tunnel rekentlessly. And I can't really NK him, I more or less have to mis-elim him at this point, and Wayward is townreading him. I have to push one of them tomorrow.

My view is that the only sensible nightkills are kkirigiri and maestro. kiri is townreading me but might re-evaluate after the faustiv flip. killing her at least freezes that read and lets me argue I would have killed maestro.

maestro and bbt are unknowns and i just have to hope they don't scumread me.

Kill: kkirigiri

[catboi]

basically I have to drown the thread in effort starting tomorrow, write a wallpost for every player, post it at the start of day, hope the effort gets townread.


I think wingfan is by far the easier player to case over wayward/fennecslot based on sterling's play so that is what I will do. Maestro seemed to dislike sterling's vote on fennec and likely regards it as anti-partnery. I will follow in that thinking. wingfan by contrast is a lot easier to case.

[catboi]

Easier said than done of course. Would be better if it wasn't on a weekend given I didn't want to spend Sunday night thinking about mafia. But whatever. time to summon some of that college student submitting a last minute term paper energy.