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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:13 pm

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Spoiler: MacReady
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Welcome,
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You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:15 pm

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Spoiler: Nauls
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Welcome,
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You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:17 pm

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Spoiler: Palmer
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Welcome,
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1-Shot Town Alignment Cop
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We're gonna draw a little bit of everybody's blood... 'cause we're gonna find out who's The Thing.


Once per game, you may give another player a blood test. You will receive a result of
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:25 pm

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it's way late for me so i don't have time for full thoughts but basically: assimilation mechanic never came into play because town stomped from very early on, unfortunate but sometimes thats the way it goes. there are obvious obstacles to the mechanic of scum jumping to a new account that make it tricky/intimidating to use, some of these can be compensated for but if i ran a game like this again i'd have to clarify things/add mechanics to make assimilation more favorable. for an initial run of the setup i wanted to make it reasonably simple, though. had idea for some complex item based mechanics but cut them down to make something more familiar to most players. maybe more tomorrow.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:31 pm

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well played town! smoked us
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:56 pm

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fun game!! i wish the assimilation mechanic did get a chance to be used but it still had some influence, it was fun preparing for the possibility and theorizing about who might try to use it, and there was at least a bit of d2 paranoia

i think its probably better (and more fun) if as few people as possible are easily identifiable as their mains, and so everything is confined to only this game rather than outside meta getting brought in, but its kinda unavoidable when most people who play here know each other lol
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:04 pm

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GG!
Well done, Datisi and mastina!
By the way, peta, you can release my Notes PT.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:35 pm

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In post 980, fireisredsir wrote:i think its probably better (and more fun) if as few people as possible are easily identifiable as their mains, and so everything is confined to only this game rather than outside meta getting brought in, but its kinda unavoidable when most people who play here know each other lol
Tbh I didn't try to tell people who I was, but since I didn't actively try to
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(Basically, I didn't actively try to make people know it was me, but I didn't feel like trying to hide it was me, so I just posted, and because I just posted, I did the things I always do. Which is, well--uniquely me.)

I appreciate the carry from people ignoring my wrong setup spec, getting a guilty, and telling me who to shoot tho. All I really had to do was be a PR and be able to be me convincingly so.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:41 pm

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TBH I didn't figure you out until Fuchs pointed out your use of :P. (I thought that you were Math.)
I also didn't bother hiding my identity much.
(Except being lazier than usual and only capitalising words when my phone autocorrected me.)
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:44 pm

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Btw on the setup:
I feel like this setup would be balanced if it was not known the Things had no power roles, but knowing that every power role had to be town, I do think the setup was townsided, here.

For it to not be, assimilation needed to be more viable than it actually was. I thought that we had only three power roles--the 1x cop, the 1x "messenger" (friendly neighbor), and the 1x vig--because that was three conftown, and that we
maybe
had room for like a 1x doctor (or as it turned out, x-shot bodyguard).

With the knowledge that Things had no PRs, that's about the level I'd expect for town power, but we had another investigative on top of that.

If we didn't have the knowledge of Things not having PRs, then I think the town has the perfect level of town power; this setup would be close to the balanced range in a mini normal, for instance. The lack of flips and Things having the assimilation mechanic would aid the scum, as would the lack of knowing for sure some things.

But imo, it needed to be one of the two, not both.
We needed either fewer PRs with the knowledge we had, or the number of PRs with less knowledge than we had.

That said, obviously, scum elimination with scum guilty and town being right on the third meant scum got a disproportionately bad start, and I think the win was
mostly
from good play, but I def think it was townsided at least somewhat.
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:47 pm

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In post 983, Freedom wrote:TBH I didn't figure you out until Fuchs pointed out your use of :P. (I thought that you were Math.)
I get that a lot, it seems every time I play an anon alt game people assume I'm either Titus or MathBlade, usually MathBlade. :P
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:38 pm

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Oh yay! :cool:
That was pretty fun, thanks for modding Peta!
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:33 am

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This was a ton of fun, ty peta
Was ~glorious~ playing a game without meta
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:00 am

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Well played town!

I do agree with mastina that the setup as is is probably a tad townsided but the D1 lim and cop guilty on me meant we were screwed anyhow so it was moot.

I was really looking forward to assimilating someone N2 and the challenge of faking their post style so being cop guiltied really sucked!

I also enjoyed the lack of meta discussion. I recognised a couple of players but don't play often enough to recognise most.


An idea I had (maybe not a good idea) for a variation on this if you want to up the paranoia even more:

2-3 scum (randomly determined)
Once per game, Things can conceal the alignment of the day flip
The game continues if the final Thing is limmed
Town win if they correctly vote for "there are no more things"
Things win if they are the majority, or if town declare wrongly
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:00 am

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Thanks for modding, peta
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:30 am

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ayyy, gg. i had a "oh no." moment when i saw the day 3 pm, lol

does this mean no diary entry? :<
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:38 am

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Now i really want to know who everyone was lol
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:53 am

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In post 991, skitter30 wrote:Now i really want to know who everyone was lol
It's mentioned in all of the role pms that got posted earlier!
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:56 am

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In post 977, petapan wrote:Spoiler: Palmer
As played by Datisi
like right here

god so many of my alt guesses were bad lol
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:57 am

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I missed that, ty! :)

I put so much effort into, like, capital letters and normal punctuation lol
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:00 am

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My brain as it turns out gets unhappy trying to read games with similar icons but garry 2 did the job well ! ty for modding and gg
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:02 am

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In post 995, Ydrasse wrote:My brain as it turns out gets unhappy trying to read games with similar icons but garry 2 did the job well ! ty for modding and gg
i have been yelling at peta on discord about this exact issue lole
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:12 am

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In post 996, Datisi wrote:
In post 995, Ydrasse wrote:My brain as it turns out gets unhappy trying to read games with similar icons but garry 2 did the job well ! ty for modding and gg
i have been yelling at peta on discord about this exact issue lole
I was basically re-reading the game in iso mode because all the avvies blurred together >.>

gg thanks for modding Peta!

I had absolutely no clue who anyone was @_@
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:19 am

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YAY!

WE WON!
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:24 am

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In post 982, mastina wrote:
In post 980, fireisredsir wrote:i think its probably better (and more fun) if as few people as possible are easily identifiable as their mains, and so everything is confined to only this game rather than outside meta getting brought in, but its kinda unavoidable when most people who play here know each other lol
Tbh I didn't try to tell people who I was, but since I didn't actively try to
mask
it, and my style is literally the most unique thing on mafiascum (plurality helps a lot in that regard :P), I legit didn't bother submitting N1 picks specifically because I knew I couldn't win. :P

(Basically, I didn't actively try to make people know it was me, but I didn't feel like trying to hide it was me, so I just posted, and because I just posted, I did the things I always do. Which is, well--uniquely me.)

I appreciate the carry from people ignoring my wrong setup spec, getting a guilty, and telling me who to shoot tho. All I really had to do was be a PR and be able to be me convincingly so.
Funny thing

I typed up a message for the night 1 main guesses (but forgot to send it :dead:)

You were The Only One that I actually thought I knew.

Every other one I was just guessing names hoping for the 1 pointer.
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