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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:25 pm

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Sorry for any inconveniences. I have talked with T-Bone and he says that the game has been unfortunately compromised. He advises that I have to either reroll or end the game.

Edit: To clarify, it isn't T-Bone's fault. I accidentally forgot to redact part of Koka's role which Passenger first informed me off, leading to me redacting it. Roden, Bell, Andres and Scarf all saw it by chance prior to the redaction. After conversing with T-Bone, it was decided that the amount of players seeing that part was too much to replace.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:20 pm

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If you want a reroll, please let me know via PM.

To avoid giving an unfair advantage, the roles will be made public (with redactions on roles that can still be salvaged).
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:54 pm

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If a reroll happens, I will be remaking the setup so that the roles can remain closed.
This may take time.
Sorry for inconveniences.
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:16 pm

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Closing this thread. I'll try to rewrite the setup and when I finish, the game will restart in a new thread.

Update: The game has been rewritten. It is currently getting reviewed.

Update: The rewrite has been passed. I am now writing the Role and Result PMs to be reviewed.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:20 am

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Resident - N.Y. M

Resident - JohnnyFarrar

Pensioner - Bell

Pensioner - Andresvmb

Attendant - The Bombay (Lukewarm and marcistar)

Proponent - Star Power/Roden

Clerk - Frogsterking/Morning Tweet

Publican - furtiveglance

Speculator - Flavia/Scarfsmanship

Consul - DeasVail

Opponent - Kokabiel

Collaborator - Herta

Collaborator - Passenger

Chancellor - PenguinPower
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:21 am

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Residents
Spoiler: Resident
Welcome to Community! You are a
Resident
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You have lived here for decades. You wake up every morning with the same routine, but it is has all been ruined.
Now, you must band together to rid this community of these unwanted influences.

Attributes
  • Citizen
    : You have no special attributes.
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Pensioner
Welcome to Community! You are a
Pensioner
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You have lived here longer than everybody. You've spent your summers together, and after years, you've settled down.
This would've been an idyllic retirement if everything had remained as it was.
Now, you must band together to return the community to its perfection.

Attributes
  • Pillar
    : You are
    Pensioners
    with , who is guaranteed to also be a
    Resident
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  • Area
    : You share a space located here where you may converse at all times.
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Attendant
Welcome to Community! You are an
Attendant
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It's not easy being the caretaker of this place. You're constantly out there visiting others serving as both their lookout and bodyguard.
It had always been a great source of income, though, especially in the current situation. Now, your skills are so valued that you've started doing it for free, and you've resorted to choosing your customers.
However, it won't last forever, and you must band together to rid this community of these interlopers.

Attributes
  • Assistance
    : Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will learn whoever else targeted them, while any forced exits that target them will instead target you.
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Proponent
Welcome to Community! You are a
Proponent
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Who said that the community didn't need their own representative?
You've stepped up in these uncertain times to represent your people to the wider world and bring their attention to your plight.
Still, you know that you must band together to ensure this community survive.

Attributes
  • Advocate
    : During any phase, you may PM the moderator at any time saying "Represent
    Residents
    ". The moderator will then confirm you as a
    Advocate
    to all players but also as a member of the
    Residents
    to the player aligned with the
    Government
    .
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Clerk
Welcome to Community! You are a
Clerk
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This was definitely better than working in that law firm. You have built so much trust here that you have access to all of their records.
Even with the influx of new inhabitants, you have records on them all. Though, sometime in between, the records have lost their accuracy.
Working with what you have, you must band together to rid this community of these outliers.

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  • Information
    : You know additional information about the setup:
    At least one role provides a misleading result
    .
  • Administration
    : Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn some flavour information about the target's alignment and role. Anything that would trigger as a result of this action doesn't trigger.
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Publican
Welcome to Community! You are a
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You've heard many success stories of how the down-and-outs are moving from the city to strike gold. It's true that you've managed to run a successful business here, but everybody still turns their noses towards you after all these years.
It isn't helping that more people have come, and some of them do not have the best of intentions.
Even though it'll be hard, you know that you must band together to get rid of these interlopers.

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  • Foreigner
    : You appear to Investigative roles as aligned with the
    Delegation
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  • Proprietor
    : Each Night, you may choose to 'open' your premises. If you choose to 'open' and assuming no interference with your action, all actions used by all players that target you, and all other actions targeted at those players, will be blocked that Night.
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Speculator
Welcome to Community! You are a
Speculator
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Your colleagues at Wall Street laughed when you first invested in this piece of land. Contrary to their beliefs, you have made yourself a fortune investing further and winning over the other members of the community.
Now that the militants have arrived, you've been challenged to a community.
However, you won't be doing this alone, and you know that you must band together to rid this community of these interlopers.

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  • Conjecture
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Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Delegation
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Welcome to Community! You are a
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Being a magistrate was never enough for you. Looking for opportunities, you've decided that this community will be the perfect spot to cure your boredom.
Each Night, as the others are sleeping, you lay awake for the chance to get one of them to exit.
However, they won't go without a fight, and you must deceive them if you want to thrive.

Attributes
  • Secret
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  • Conclave
    : You share a conclave located here where you may converse at all times.
  • Delegate
    : Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will exit the community.
  • Magistrate
    : Each Night, if you are performing the factional action, you may choose to confirm yourself as
    Unstoppable
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Win Condition

You win if at least one
Delegation
member remains and all other players have exited the community (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the
Delegation
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Spoiler: Opponent
Welcome to Community! You are a
Opponent
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Who said that your comrades weren't allowed to have a representative? With your undying charisma and various connections with the press, you've decided that you'll be the perfect spokesperson, even if nobody else agrees.
Each Night, as the others are sound asleep, you remain alert for the chance to get one of them to exit.
However, they won't go without a fight, and you must deceive them if you want to flourish.

Attributes
  • Secret
    : You are part of a
    Delegation
    with and you know of at least one
    Collaborator
    within the
    Residents
    .
  • Conclave
    : You share a conclave located here where you may converse at all times.
  • Delegate
    : Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will exit the community.
  • Advocate
    : During any phase, you may PM the moderator at any time saying "Represent
    Delegation
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    Advocate
    to all players but also as a member of the
    Delegation
    to the player aligned with the
    Government
    .
Win Condition

You win if at least one
Delegation
member remains and all other players have exited the community (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the
Delegation
conclave or by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Collaborator
Welcome to Community! You are a
Collaborator
.

When you heard that the militants came, you knew that the time had come. You've become restless at the state of this community.
The others all want to resist change, but you know better. Change is a part of life, and you have embraced it.
They still trust you though, and you must deceive them if you don't want your duplicity to be exposed.

Attributes
  • Conspiracy
    : You are a
    Collaborator
    for the
    Delegation
    of and , sharing a conclave with every
    Collaborator
    located here where you may converse at all times.
Win Condition

You win if at least one main
Delegation
member remains and all other players have exited the community (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Government
Spoiler: Chancellor
Welcome to Community! You are the
Chancellor
.

You were the best cadet back at the academy. You aced all your courses and landed yourself the position of the country's best operative.
As a master of disguises, you're known to all in the community as the overzealous new addition. However, you're simply here to ensure that your employers have it their way.
With your mission in mind, you look forward to making false alliances and ensuring that everything remains under control, no matter the consequences.

Attributes
  • Solitudinarian
    : If you win the community, every other player will lose. The existence of an
    Government
    operative with the
    Antisocial
    modifier will be publicly announced at the start of the community (but not who has it).
  • Confession
    : You possess a confessional located here where you may converse at all times.
  • Operative
    : You appear to Investigative roles as the
    Ideologue
    .
  • Privilege
    : You are immune to all actions performed by a player not aligned with your target.
  • Proclamation
    : Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will receive a message from the moderator that states that you are aligned with their alignment, and you will learn some flavour information about the target's alignment and role as well as if your action succeeded. Anything that would trigger as a result of this action doesn't trigger.
  • Journey
    : Each Night, you may instead choose to depart from the community. Assuming no interference with your action, you will become untargetable by any means possible but your final target will be reset to nobody.
Win Condition

You win if you are remaining when all opposing factions to your final target excluding yourself have exited the community.

Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Additional
Spoiler: Ideologue
Welcome to Community! You are a
Ideologue
.

You might be one of the newest to the community but, that doesn't mean that you don't love it. You just can't wait to scream your enthusiasm at everybody you meet. Though sometimes, you know that you need a rest and so you go and pursue something else for a change.
You know that the times are hard now and not everybody has the best intentions, but you just can't stop being yourself.
Vigorous as ever, you can't wait to band up with everybody and get those not-so-good guys out.

Attributes
  • Notification
    : Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will receive a message from the moderator that states that you are a
    Resident
    . Anything that would trigger as a result of this action doesn't trigger.
  • Pursuit
    : Each Night after Night 1, you may instead choose to depart from the community. Assuming no interference with your action, you will become untargetable by any means possible.
Win Condition

You win if all threats to the
Residents
have exited the community and at least one
Resident
-aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".

Spoiler: Publican
Welcome to Community! You are a
Publican
.

You've heard about the opportunities that this place would provide. Using your brew of concoctions, you distract all who approach you.
Each Night, as the others are at rest, you remain conscious for the chance to get one of them to exit.
However, they won't go without a fight, and you must deceive them if you want to blossom.

Attributes
  • Secret
    : You are part of a
    Delegation
    with and you know of at least one
    Collaborator
    within the
    Residents
    .
  • Conclave
    : You share a conclave located here where you may converse at all times.
  • Delegate
    : Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will exit the community.
  • Proprietor
    : Each Night, you may choose to 'open' your premises. If you choose to 'open' and assuming no interference with your action, all actions used by all players that target you, and all other actions targeted at those players, will be blocked that Night.
Win Condition

You win if at least one
Delegation
member remains and all other players have exited the community (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the
Delegation
conclave or by replying to this PM with the answer to "What is the post cap for Days 1 to 3?".
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:11 pm

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In post 762, Frogsterking wrote:Luke can't fathom the idea that at least one of Roden and I have to be scum and that Roden simply lied about a claim. Absolutely unbelievable.

Luke, you have shot all of your credibility for your belief that not only is Roden "always Town" here, but that there is somehow in your mind a possibility that Roden and I can BOTH be Town. You're truly incredible Luke: as in literally in-credible, like I can't believe these are real takes coming from a real player.
Turns out I was right on all counts.

Roden was town
Frog was town

Koka was scum.

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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:11 pm

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Anyways, RH, really sorry that the error crashed your game. It seemed like a really cool set up, and I was really enjoying it
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:15 pm

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In post 762, Frogsterking wrote:Luke can't fathom the idea that at least one of Roden and I have to be scum and that Roden simply lied about a claim. Absolutely unbelievable.

Luke, you have shot all of your credibility for your belief that not only is Roden "always Town" here, but that there is somehow in your mind a possibility that Roden and I can BOTH be Town. You're truly incredible Luke: as in literally in-credible, like I can't believe these are real takes coming from a real player.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:17 pm

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In post 957, Lukewarm wrote:Anyways, RH, really sorry that the error crashed your game. It seemed like a really cool set up, and I was really enjoying it
No worries.
Something that I learnt is always prepare redacted PMs just in case I need them.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:25 pm

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Wait so Roden made the friendly neighbour actio nthe fuck up? Bruh
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:27 pm

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In post 960, Morning Tweet wrote:Wait so Roden made the friendly neighbour actio nthe fuck up? Bruh
Yeah...

Looks like the effect is that it sent that message to the scum team, and originally said he chose as a gambit to get the scum to out.

Then he thought that Frog's reaction looked like he got the message.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:28 pm

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In post 961, Lukewarm wrote:it sent that message to the scum team,
edit: to the 3p
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:10 pm

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In post 956, Lukewarm wrote:Turns out I was right on all counts.
Like how you accused me of lying about my role because I'm stubborn or something? Huh?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:28 pm

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I think your reads on the actual alignment of players in the game was excellent, and your assessment about my character and who was telling the truth and who was not was ass-backwards.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:32 pm

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Shouldn't you be saying that to me rather than Luke.
I feel like I was giving you a harder time than they were
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:48 pm

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In post 965, Bell wrote:Shouldn't you be saying that to me rather than Luke.
I feel like I was giving you a harder time than they were
Huh?

...
In post 792, Bell wrote:Motivation for Roden is wrong.
Tactics are wrong.
Overall Strategy going nowhere.
Frogster response not made unless they got a pm and promptly lost their marbles. Still annoyed that they didn't learn anything from the Petapan disaster. I.e., it's not the wild west, Cowboy. Stop lying to people for a mere gamble. If you're going to lie at least aim for tangibility and plausibility and don't ignore people who have just as much experience as you do at mafia and are saying drastically different things about the set up.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:46 pm

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Whatever. I'm over it. I'm sorry I got so angry. It was an unusual scenario where no explanation really checked out.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:49 pm

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And you did both have great reads this game.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:22 am

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In post 964, Frogsterking wrote:I think your reads on the actual alignment of players in the game was excellent, and your assessment about my character and who was telling the truth and who was not was ass-backwards.
In post 963, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 956, Lukewarm wrote:Turns out I was right on all counts.
Like how you accused me of lying about my role because I'm stubborn or something? Huh?
I was very sure that Roden was town. (Correct)
I was thinking you were most likely town. (Correct)

I was faced with claims from the two of you that left me to think that one of you must be lying town (correct)

And since I have been in a game with you in which you ignored mod revealed info based on the strength of your reads, so I thought you were the one of the two of you lying (incorrect).

I was not trying to make any statements about your character, I was trying to piece together what was happening in a game where I am given a fraction of the information. The Game Of Mafia.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:22 am

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In post 525, Lukewarm wrote:You don't just... throw yourself out there after getting a PM like that.
Yes - but I did :)
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:48 am

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In post 970, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 525, Lukewarm wrote:You don't just... throw yourself out there after getting a PM like that.
Yes - but I did :)
Koka was claiming that you got a message stating they were town, and you were suddenly pushing them for it.

It is a bit different if you got a message that they were scum lol
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:36 am

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In post 967, Frogsterking wrote:Whatever. I'm over it. I'm sorry I got so angry. It was an unusual scenario where no explanation really checked out.
Hey, I'm sorry for being wrong! Thanks for playing.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:06 am

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In post 969, Lukewarm wrote:And since I have been in a game with you in which you ignored mod revealed info based on the strength of your reads, so I thought you were the one of the two of you lying (incorrect).

I was not trying to make any statements about your character, I was trying to piece together what was happening in a game where I am given a fraction of the information. The Game Of Mafia
Did you consider that I was unaware of the difference between "bastard" and "nonbastard" games when I accused catboi of having a changeling role? Did you bother to check my account and see how many games I had actually completed on this website at the time I played KTANE? Did you consider that I eventually accepted in KTANE that my read was impossible and resigned myself to being policy eliminated for my mistake? Did you consider that I may have learned from my mistake that and been less likely to repeat a similar one now, rather than more likely?
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:41 pm

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In post 973, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 969, Lukewarm wrote:And since I have been in a game with you in which you ignored mod revealed info based on the strength of your reads, so I thought you were the one of the two of you lying (incorrect).

I was not trying to make any statements about your character, I was trying to piece together what was happening in a game where I am given a fraction of the information. The Game Of Mafia
Did you consider that I was unaware of the difference between "bastard" and "nonbastard" games when I accused catboi of having a changeling role? Did you bother to check my account and see how many games I had actually completed on this website at the time I played KTANE? Did you consider that I eventually accepted in KTANE that my read was impossible and resigned myself to being policy eliminated for my mistake? Did you consider that I may have learned from my mistake that and been less likely to repeat a similar one now, rather than more likely?
Granted, I don't think it was particularly likely that Roden was lying either. If the options you have available are limited to scenarios where you strongly townread us both, I do think it was more likely objectively that roden was lying, because you are essentially claiming that I am more likely to ignore an inno report than Roden is to fake claim a guilty, which doesn't seem true?

Specifically what I meant about the character thing was:

1) the assumption that I was ignoring information in KTANE deliberately rather than being very unfamiliar with the distinction between bastard and non bastard theme games

2) taking that example and claiming that because of it, I am more likely to ignore mod confirmed information when I believe strongly in my reads, which is not a true statement

That's just what upset me specifically here.

Finally, I am sorry that I said you were an awful player a lot, in my opinion you were correct that I was not really listening to you this game because I was biased about your incorrect read on me in Lost. I no longer think my experience there is reflective of how you usually sort players, I now believe that you can play town well and you just made a mistake in Lost.
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