OPEN 868 - Nobility and the Dark Angel | Endgame

[Polar Bear Express]

And I’m sorry if you interpreted that way. Both me and Noraa expected to be the nk, Noraa especially.

[MathBlade]

I did when you were posting thoughts that were present. I am not weighing on Eira’s posts because they’re long ramble posts that do nothing but say I am scum without a reason why: I obviously disagree.

You’re being contrary for the sake of it because you didn’t ISO anyone or you’d reach the conclusion Herta isn’t the DA. You also didn’t post conclusions. Yes I said I would sheep you but that was when you were posting reasons why. You’re not anymore. It’s like you abandoned reason just because it’s me.

And Eira doesn’t make sense it’s all just Math + NM without reason and I know it’s false

Are you just not reading? I believed Meg was DA not noble.

[Polar Bear Express]

It’s not me and I don’t believe it’s Enchant, so I think it’s probably Herta/NM because Tap is much more of a tryhard as scum so meta points to that more likely,

But I think Herta was being incredibly suss and you said he and Mega we’re backing each other up, so I don’t want to rush this day but he’s currently my strongest guess for scum here and least likely to flip town imo.

[Polar Bear Express]

I did when you were posting thoughts that were present. I am not weighing on Eira’s posts because they’re long ramble posts that do nothing but say I am scum without a reason why: I obviously disagree.

You’re being contrary for the sake of it because you didn’t ISO anyone or you’d reach the conclusion Herta isn’t the DA. You also didn’t post conclusions. Yes I said I would sheep you but that was when you were posting reasons why. You’re not anymore. It’s like you abandoned reason just because it’s me.

And Eira doesn’t make sense it’s all just Math + NM without reason and I know it’s false

Are you just not reading? I believed Meg was DA not noble.

So then maybe it is just Herta/NM then?

That was my solve post-flip, I really can’t see how it’s not Herta. If anyone has any arguments for town!Herta I’m willing to listen but rn my gut wants them to eat rope.

[Polar Bear Express]

I actually think my thinking it was NM/Math is probably the reason I didn’t die. I think maybe Herta was maybe hoping I’d push Math?

I just really think it’s Herta. Math sounds kind of townie.

[MathBlade]

I don’t see a town Herta world here.

[Polar Bear Express]

And actually if you heal me, I get two votes tomorrow right, so I think that's okay.

Nobles don't work in Elo. Just in case.

You're right I forgot about that.

Actually if I'm healed and we eliminate mafia today, I get two votes tomorrow, so that's okay. At worst mafia get a dayvig tomorrow, but that's after I'm elected noble.

Is this real dumbtelling? *doubt*

[Polar Bear Express]

I don’t see a town Herta world here.

Yeah he had to know it was Mega and he still healed himself and voted her, I think you’re probably right. I’m just going to ISO him but scum!NM would distance. He’s done that in pretty much every scumgame.

[Polar Bear Express]

Official Vote Count 2.04

Elimination

Freedom

(6): JunkoChan, Herta,

Not_Mafia

, Passenger, Enchant

<--HAMMER

Not Voting

(6): Elmo TeH AzN, Tapiocaphobe, Toto, JohnnyFarrar, Polar Bear Express, Freedom

BOLD

denotes double vote

Nobility

Elmo TeH AzN

(4): Toto, Freedom, JunkoChan, Polar Bear Express

Not_Mafia

(1): Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(6):Elmo TeH AzN, Tapiocaphobe, Herta, JohnnyFarrar, Passenger, Enchant

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-12-11 09:40:07).

Mod notes:

• The hidden noble's extra vote does not appear in the Vote Count.
  
• The elected noble counts as 2 players for the purpose of elimination requirements.
  
• With effectively 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for elimination
  .
  
• Will be looking for a replacement for JohnnyFarrar.
  
• An elimination has been achieved.

Enchant's claim of hidden noble on Day 2 was true.

No one bothered to correct this misstatement.

This is true, it took 6 votes and 7 needed to hammer, so Enchant’s lock confirmed as HN.

[Polar Bear Express]

I was HN on Day 2, not afterwards.

So in that 2.04 VC it shows Not Mafia's elected noble double vote at elimination, but it doesn't show your hidden noble double vote.

Proven that this is absolute horseshit.

[Polar Bear Express]

Herta’s trying to get us to doubt Enchant, so he can widen the PoE. Yeah he’s scum lol.

[Polar Bear Express]

So there were actually 5 votes on Meg but one doesn't show even though it counted.

On Day 2 there were 7 votes on Freedom but one doesn't show even though it counted.

So there's no way for Town to confirm Hidden Nobles.

More bullshit. Herta’s obvious scum here.

[Polar Bear Express]

UNVOTE:

Unable to count this unvote.

Official Vote Count 4.04

Elimination

MegAzumarill

(4): Enchant, Polar Bear Express, Herta, MegAzumarill

<--HAMMER

Herta

(1):Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(3):

MathBlade

, Eiralox

BOLD

denotes double vote

Nobility

Herta

(4): Eiralox, MegAzumarill, Polar Bear Express, Herta

MegAzumarill

(2): Enchant, Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(1): MathBlade

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-12-26 17:52:30).

Mod notes:

• The hidden noble's extra vote does not appear in the Vote Count.
  
  
• The elected noble counts as 2 players for the purpose of elimination requirements.
  
• With effectively 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for elimination.
  
• An elimination has been achieved.

[Polar Bear Express]

UNVOTE:

Unable to count this unvote.

Official Vote Count 4.04

Elimination

MegAzumarill

(4): Enchant, Polar Bear Express, Herta, MegAzumarill

<--HAMMER

Herta

(1):Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(3):

MathBlade

, Eiralox

BOLD

denotes double vote

Nobility

Herta

(4): Eiralox, MegAzumarill, Polar Bear Express, Herta

MegAzumarill

(2): Enchant, Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(1): MathBlade

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-12-26 17:52:30).

Mod notes:

• The hidden noble's extra vote does not appear in the Vote Count.
  
  
• The elected noble counts as 2 players for the purpose of elimination requirements.
  
• With effectively 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for elimination.
  
  
• An elimination has been achieved.

[Polar Bear Express]

Herta has some serious chutzpah if he seriously thinks he can bamboozle two HNs.

[Polar Bear Express]

Really no pushback from Tapocaphobe on being healed, which I'd expect from them if DA.

Junko wouldn't put Elmo at E-2, essentially E-1, if mafia with threat of Tapiocaphobe being DA? Unless sure DA is not Tapiocaphobe, which I think is unlikely anyone can be sure that anyone else is not DA.

Also more bs because Tap wasn’t even online att, so how could they push back?

[Polar Bear Express]

Math + PBE have 4 votes, so really it's up to them who dies today.

@Herta protip, dumbtelling doesn’t work when you contradict yourself. lol

[Herta]

UNVOTE:

Unable to count this unvote.

If hammer was with my vote why this?

Disregard this. It took 5 votes, not 4. So Meg was hammer. That was bothering me all through the night.

So the team is Math & N_M like I had it before.

[Polar Bear Express]

Enchant cannot be scum because he is confirmed Day 2 Hidden Noble.

Leaves pool of {Mathblade, Herta, Eiralox, PBE, Not_Mafia, MegAzumarill}

Herta is out of course.

Meg is DA.

Pool is now {Mathblade, Eiralox, PBE, Not_Mafia}

Eiralox & PBE are unconfirmed but claimed Hidden Nobles. There's no authentic counterlcaim (N_M help please) to either. So I have to assume they're true claiming. Therefore they cannot be scum.

Pool is now {Mathblade, Not_Mafia}

From my perspective, assuming the true claims, that's the exact team.

Herta apparently thinks we’re all idiots here or something. *smdh*

[Herta]

Enchant cannot be scum because he is confirmed Day 2 Hidden Noble.

Leaves pool of {Mathblade, Herta, Eiralox, PBE, Not_Mafia, MegAzumarill}

Herta is out of course.

Meg is DA.

Pool is now {Mathblade, Eiralox, PBE, Not_Mafia}

Eiralox & PBE are unconfirmed but claimed Hidden Nobles. There's no authentic counterlcaim (N_M help please) to either. So I have to assume they're true claiming. Therefore they cannot be scum.

Pool is now {Mathblade, Not_Mafia}

From my perspective, assuming the true claims, that's the exact team.

Eiralox and PBE are now confirmed, so this is correct.

[Herta]

problem

Hence this.

[Polar Bear Express]

UNVOTE:

Unable to count this unvote.

Official Vote Count 4.04

Elimination

MegAzumarill

(4): Enchant, Polar Bear Express, Herta, MegAzumarill

<--HAMMER

Herta

(1):Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(3):

MathBlade

, Eiralox

BOLD

denotes double vote

Nobility

Herta

(4): Eiralox, MegAzumarill, Polar Bear Express, Herta

MegAzumarill

(2): Enchant, Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(1): MathBlade

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-12-26 17:52:30).

Mod notes:

• The hidden noble's extra vote does not appear in the Vote Count.
  
• The elected noble counts as 2 players for the purpose of elimination requirements.
  
• With effectively 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for elimination.
  
• An elimination has been achieved.

Herta, if you’re town you outright gamethrew with this because you knew Mega has to be DA but I think you’re probably just scum.

I don’t see how you can be town here with this vote and heal.

[Herta]

From Enchant's POV, PBE is out because confirmed HN, so must be {Herta, Math, N_M}

From PBE's POV, Enchant is out because confirmed HN, so must be {Herta, Math, N_M}

I'm the one that has it easy, because I'm the only town that can mechanically deduce the scum team.

[MathBlade]

And scum can’t hidden noble themselves because?

[Herta]

Yeah that's where it falls apart isn't it. I forgot about that. That's why I was going to revisit it to begin with.