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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:49 pm

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If I were in charge of tomorrow, this would be my plan. It allows us to kill 2 players capitalizing on using SS (who I think is town)'s PR.


Step 1) Prove SS town by putting a player in hammer range, where only SS can hammer.

Step 2) Prove someone else town, using the same method - my recommendation for this is you.

Step 3) SS and the other confirmed town townie come to a consensus on who to kill between the two non-confirmed players and kill that player

Step 4) If they are wrong, SS roleblocks the now proven scum.

Step 5) Kill that person the following day.


Now, instead of needing to find exactly 1 scum, it can be narrowed down to a pool of 2 scum.

This plan does require trusting SS, but atm I do.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:50 pm

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In post 25, Lukewarm wrote:Step 2) Prove someone else town, using the same method - my recommendation for this is you.
but should probably be a collective decision, led my SS after proven town
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:50 pm

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In post 22, Lukewarm wrote:AH.

Can you tell me what made you think that the worst had forgotten that SS was odd night?
His plan had neglected that with S_S being Odd-Night, he would be the optimal NK if activated.
He was basically sacrificing what should be in his mind, our most powerful TR.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:56 pm

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In post 25, Lukewarm wrote:If I were in charge of tomorrow, this would be my plan. It allows us to kill 2 players capitalizing on using SS (who I think is town)'s PR.


Step 1) Prove SS town by putting a player in hammer range, where only SS can hammer.

Step 2) Prove someone else town, using the same method - my recommendation for this is you.

Step 3) SS and the other confirmed town townie come to a consensus on who to kill between the two non-confirmed players and kill that player

Step 4) If they are wrong, SS roleblocks the now proven scum.

Step 5) Kill that person the following day.


Now, instead of needing to find exactly 1 scum, it can be narrowed down to a pool of 2 scum.

This plan does require trusting SS, but atm I do.
This also requires for S_S to survive which I doubt will happen if he's Town after claiming Odd-Night Roleblocker and getting activated on a even Day.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:11 am

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That is the plan that I am leaving assuming that I die.

If I live, then I can reasses then
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:25 am

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I see.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:37 am

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I did more reading of furtives iso, and started thinking he was scum again:skull:

Reading norwees iso males me think he is town though.

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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:22 am

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I just realised that if you decide to put somebody in hammer range and the player who can hammer SRs the player in hammer range, they might decide to hammer that player on the believe that they've hit scum.
On the other hand, if they don't and become conftown, they might end up being viewed as a optimal NK.
However, this is unless they're scum, in which case they might do the first thing due to scum needing 2 dead to reach parity.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:14 am

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You don't seem to understand the mechanics behind proving a townie in e4

You make it so that they ONLY people who can hammer are the person you are proving, and someone who would he self hammering


For example.

Ceph and furtive vote you. You are at e-1.

I post that I am online and not hammering. I am proven town

Technically you could hammer, but that doesn't mean anything.

Neither ceph nor furtive could hammer because they are already voting you
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:51 am

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In post 33, Lukewarm wrote:You don't seem to understand the mechanics behind proving a townie in e4

You make it so that they ONLY people who can hammer are the person you are proving, and someone who would he self hammering


For example.

Ceph and furtive vote you. You are at e-1.

I post that I am online and not hammering. I am proven town

Technically you could hammer, but that doesn't mean anything.

Neither ceph nor furtive could hammer because they are already voting you
I see.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:31 am

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It's OK telling Ceph your plan, right?
He's already voting furtive so moving off furtive after finding out the plan and asking to be conftowned would be a scumclaim.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:08 pm

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furtive seems pretty worried about being on E-2.
Not sure what to make off it.
I didn't know that he SRed you as it should be obvious that town!Luke wouldn't decide to change his plan and hammer after saying that not hammering conftowns him.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:54 pm

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In post 35, Freedom wrote:It's OK telling Ceph your plan, right?
He's already voting furtive so moving off furtive after finding out the plan and asking to be conftowned would be a scumclaim.
I am pretty sure that ceph already understand the plan, and is trying to confirm me.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:56 pm

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In post 36, Freedom wrote:furtive seems pretty worried about being on E-2.
Not sure what to make off it.
I didn't know that he SRed you as it should be obvious that town!Luke wouldn't decide to change his plan and hammer after saying that not hammering conftowns him.
I made it fairly clear earlier, that if he was confident I was town, we should do this. And he seemed un phased.

So if town, he must have some paranoia on me. Or he is scum.

I vaguely think that it is town indicative to have that paranoia there
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:00 pm

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In post 37, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 35, Freedom wrote:It's OK telling Ceph your plan, right?
He's already voting furtive so moving off furtive after finding out the plan and asking to be conftowned would be a scumclaim.
I am pretty sure that ceph already understand the plan, and is trying to confirm me.
I see.
That's good then.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:04 pm

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In post 38, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 36, Freedom wrote:furtive seems pretty worried about being on E-2.
Not sure what to make off it.
I didn't know that he SRed you as it should be obvious that town!Luke wouldn't decide to change his plan and hammer after saying that not hammering conftowns him.
I made it fairly clear earlier, that if he was confident I was town, we should do this. And he seemed un phased.

So if town, he must have some paranoia on me. Or he is scum.

I vaguely think that it is town indicative to have that paranoia there
I guess that conftowning you will hopefully clear off that paranoia.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:05 pm

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BTW Luke.
Please don't betray us and hammer after telling us that you won't.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:11 pm

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TBH Luke, should we try conftown another person or would that be too risky?
I was mainly thinking that with more conftowns, scum would be in a worse position as the pool of potential mislims will be lessened.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:43 pm

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In post 42, Freedom wrote:TBH Luke, should we try conftown another person or would that be too risky?
I was mainly thinking that with more conftowns, scum would be in a worse position as the pool of potential mislims will be lessened.
There will not be another day phase this game at this point.

But yes, that is the strat when you solve in 4p. You confirm town 2 people, then the 2 confirmed towns try to hunt for the scum in the last 2.

But I am not ready to confirm town anyone else yet.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:44 pm

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Would you consider confirming anyone else, or were you just asking about confirming yourself?
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:56 pm

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In post 43, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 42, Freedom wrote:TBH Luke, should we try conftown another person or would that be too risky?
I was mainly thinking that with more conftowns, scum would be in a worse position as the pool of potential mislims will be lessened.
There will not be another day phase this game at this point.

But yes, that is the strat when you solve in 4p. You confirm town 2 people, then the 2 confirmed towns try to hunt for the scum in the last 2.

But I am not ready to confirm town anyone else yet.
This is kinda of what I'm getting at.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:59 pm

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In post 44, Lukewarm wrote:Would you consider confirming anyone else, or were you just asking about confirming yourself?
I don't mind TBH.
Though, I know that I'm Town and thus, it would be my first preference that I be conftowned.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:19 pm

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Is there a reason that you phrased it ambiguously?
In post 42, Freedom wrote:TBH Luke, should we try conftown another person or would that be too risky?
I was mainly thinking that with more conftowns, scum would be in a worse position as the pool of potential mislims will be lessened.
Like, why did you not ask if You should be confirmed here? Instead of "another person"?

Would you have considered either of Ceph or Furtive?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:22 pm

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In post 47, Lukewarm wrote:Is there a reason that you phrased it ambiguously?
In post 42, Freedom wrote:TBH Luke, should we try conftown another person or would that be too risky?
I was mainly thinking that with more conftowns, scum would be in a worse position as the pool of potential mislims will be lessened.
Like, why did you not ask if You should be confirmed here? Instead of "another person"?

Would you have considered either of Ceph or Furtive?
I was trying to not sound too forceful as I feel like since it's mainly your plan, you should decide who gets conftowned.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:30 pm

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How would you respond if I were to suggest that we confirm town ceph or furtive instead of you?
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