Open 869 | Fight for the Winter Court [Game Over!]

[skitter30]

It feels bizarre to vote myself but here goes
VOTE: skitter

Gl to everyone in wall and gate

[MathBlade]

Good luck gotta sweep the rest.

[Ydrasse]

[1]

absinthe:

Coral
[0]

Coral:

[2]

Not voting:

absinthe,

Tempest

WAFER WALL

[0]

Aisa:

[0]

Isis:

[0]

Chara:

[3]

Not voting:

Aisa, Isis, Chara

KRAMPUS KEEP

[0]

MathBlade:

[2]

skitter30: catboi, skitter30

[0]

catboi:

[1]

Not voting:

MathBlade

MOD NOTES

• The day will end in (expired on 2023-01-02 09:19:18)

.

• have fun!

• v/la: none.

• free candy cane

[Ydrasse]

In the distance, a bell rang out. The three soldiers turned to face it, their necks making an awful noise as the wooden edges struck the joints of their body.

"The Keep!" one exclaimed, squinting as if he could see it. "They've secured the Keep, I think...? If the bell's ringing."

"But what if someone broke in, to trick us?"

The first soldier swatted at the other. "You know that there's magic protecting it, something that not even the strongest flame could burn through! We've got friends in the Keep to rely on now! If worst comes to worst, we'll retreat and hold out there. Well," he paused, glaring at the third soldier, "at least the loyal of us will."

—

skitter30 and catboi were aligned with the

Nutcracker Soldiers

.

MathBlade was aligned with the

Minions of Summer

.

The Nutcracker Soldiers earn one point.

skitter30, catboi and MathBlade exit the game.

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[Ydrasse]

[1]

absinthe:

Coral
[0]

Coral:

[2]

Not voting:

absinthe,

Tempest

WAFER WALL

[0]

Aisa:

[0]

Isis:

[0]

Chara:

[3]

Not voting:

Aisa, Isis, Chara

KRAMPUS KEEP

The Nutcracker Soldiers control Krampus Keep!

MOD NOTES

• The score is 1-0 in favor of the

Nutcracker Soldiers

.

• The day will end in (expired on 2023-01-02 09:19:18)

.

• have fun!

• v/la: none.

• free candy cane

[Tempest]

Nice! Sorry I doubted you guys. Guess I should have taken more seriously my concern that prism kept acting as if it was a given I’d be ic’d. Also probably just bad reads.

[Coral]

Sorry for the bad reads

Well done to catboi for getting it right and you were right to ignore me. I thought I understood where Faker's mindset was but clearly I did not, I have no idea what she was doing.

[absinthe]

bad reads.

I went looking through my imgur stash for my sadyes smilie, and found this and I have no idea when or why I saved it.

Spoiler:

Still,

I need my sadyes.

[Chara]

VOTE: wafer wall

?????????????

shiki what the duck

on review of when demona took wall, i don't think prism look so aligned with her - it iddn't seem like she expected demona to go there just then

i don't know about that, it's not hard to fake this.

i know skitter's gone, but.

glad catboi had more sense than i did. thanks kitty.

[Chara]

anyway, I'm sorry if this is wrong. My passion for this game is dead. I can't dig into things the way I used to be able to. Playing as town is completely unenjoyable. The thought of attempting to reread this game is too painful for me to do so. I leave behind no conclusive statement on the Wall except an advisory that I think Chara is town, you can see somewhere in my ISO that I made a post with postnum links as to why I think so.

VOTE: skitter


Sorry for how this game went, I didn't want to play mafia. I got dragged in by a friend who I'm not sure is a friend anymore because of my actions this game. Hopefully one day I'll regain my spark for this game. If anyone wants to talk outside the game I have a Discord in my profile.

i'm sorry, catboi. thanks for playing it out, i'll do the same.

[Aisa]

Best wishes catboi. Generally, hope everyone is taking care of themselves.

[Aisa]

And whoops, I clearly can't Math. Well done skitter and catboi for getting it right.

[Aisa]

How do people feel towards gate?

[Isis]

Coral's reads being wrong at keep is something but I probably still want absinthe flipped. This is why the other order would have been better but no one listens to me. But voting absinthe is game

[Aisa]

Yeah I kiiinda just still want the gate to flip via absinthe getting voted out, to be honest.

[Aisa]

It seems to me that either we the hivemind have unresolved doubts on Coral-absinthe and will put in the effort to investigate these doubts very soon, or there is no point drawing out the Gate.

Compared to yesterday I have slightly more doubts on Coral!Town - I can paranoia a world in which all the effort she's put into engaging with MathBlade is a scum/scum interaction.

[Aisa]

Although ISOing absinthe very much, eh, still feel better about voting her out.

This post, for example -

Spoiler:

So want to get a headstart? I don't know if you've outed reads yet, but if there's anything you want me to look at in particular LMK

want to make sure people are okay with the arrangement first and no one storms in screaming I OBJECT!!! but other than that fine

hmm what do you make

of chara and faker both

seemingly not wanting me in the keep

without really stating why

I have explained this repeatedly, and framing it as "not wanting you in the keep" is completely missing the point. The answer is about where should

everyone

go, not just you.

442 explicitly says swapping you/skitter/a third into the Keep is fine. I want me/cat to go there because it provides a very good safety buffer and prevents us from getting into an extremely grueling 1v1.

428 talks about preserving you/skitter as a pairing. This includes in the Keep.

I'm not going in the Keep

with

you. You struggle to read me, and I struggle to read your style. It makes essentially no sense from the perspective of trying to win.

385 elaborates on my approach to you in general.

This is the first post from Faker that I unequivocally like. No caveats. No footnotes.

whew!

VOTE: wafer wall

welp

I guess T->S I'd go something like

skitter, cat, demona, Isis, Chara, Coral, Tempest, absinthe

Some of this ordering is honestly random and I can see specific flips changing things greatly but I'll throw the dart for now and just YOLO look at people individually

I'm going to take somewhat cold comfort that your WH13 townread of me/nacho was apparently completely random!

Maybe it's a factor of not reading in the moment, but half the time it's a puzzle trying to figure who/what you're responding to in your posts.

The tone. The interaction with faker. My mind just instinctively pattern matches to scum.

[Aisa]

I'm aware that I'm not really approaching this with the mindset necessary to avoid confbiasing to the moon and back, but sorry, this is all the effort I feel able to offer today.

[Chara]

you're fine, Aisa. appreciate the replace-in at this stage.
i'm also fine with an absinthe flip, i don't see Coral ever going over her anyway. i really hope it's game over with that.
that would mean the Gate was all town and absinthe was swapped in because a scum was needed there, i believe.

[Coral]

Well... someone at the Wall is lying about wanting absinthe voted. I guess just trying to WIFOM and make it seem like scum is happy with that outcome.

[Ydrasse]

[1]

absinthe:

Coral
[0]

Coral:

[2]

Not voting:

absinthe,

Tempest

WAFER WALL

[0]

Aisa:

[0]

Isis:

[0]

Chara:

[3]

Not voting:

Aisa, Isis, Chara

KRAMPUS KEEP

The Nutcracker Soldiers control Krampus Keep!

MOD NOTES

• The score is 1-0 in favor of the

Nutcracker Soldiers

.

• The day will end in (expired on 2023-01-02 09:19:18)

.

• have fun!

• v/la: none.

• free candy cane

[absinthe]

not going to be around much tomorrow, but I'll try to keep up.

Winning the gate isn't as critical with a town point for the keep, but I have nfi who the wall scum is. :/

vote: coral

[Aisa]

Well... someone at the Wall is lying about wanting absinthe voted. I guess just trying to WIFOM and make it seem like scum is happy with that outcome.

Do you think that's an approach that is likely to help?

[Tempest]

feh.

Prism was the one that basically set up the various pairings and made a huge deal out of wanting either ffery or me in the keep with them, but mostly was wanting ffery in there just to move her out. Some of the talk with/about Coral felt kind stiff/mechanical while the interaction with ffery felt moreso how the interaction with me went. A lot more punchy and pushing about ffery being scum. Prism also made the comment that she'd be able to manipulate me into voting wrong if she were scum. Very very insistent on ffery being scum, and ffery made a post saying that she would just close her eyes and vote catboi in the keep. So, was that partner interaction, haha wink wink we'll be moving me out because we both can't be here lolololol or did Prism actually find that threatening and wanted skitter in there who she was kinda buddying and thought she could snow more anyway? Not sure what to glean from that when the keep was likely to go first, so Prism would be wanting to mess with the interactions as much as possible.

I need to finish rereading through ffery. lolme I found where I first started suspecting her and it was based on some early interaction/comment about skitter that I thought was partnery. Doesn't look so much in hindsight but confirmation bias so bleh. I still didn't get a whole lot of what I would expect from town!ffery in the early game, but except in rare instances I tend to suspect ffery in the early game. I think WH13 was one of those rare games that ffery made a halo post early in the game and I felt pretty good she was town, with the exception of paranoia here and there. Anyway, regardless of what ffery flips, my scum read on her was never as strong as I came out with it on day one, though I don't think I actually came out with a strong scum read, well I guess for me I did. sorry that's rambly. I think if ffery is scum, then she moved herself here knowing that she'd be likely to manipulate me to vote for Coral; she knows that I change my mind on reads pretty often and waffle a lot, so a day one read doesn't always translate to a day two read. I think she's played with me enough that she'd have a couple things she would be able to manipulate me on, but I don't feel that at all coming from her, so as scum what would her plan be here? But if I do end up voting ffery it's mostly just going to be based on today and the lack of participation which I know if she's town just can't be helped and it will suck if I'm wrong and I'm sorry if so. But, I do want to finish reading ffery today and Coral before I go ahead and vote. I just want to make sure I'm not missing something that should be sticking out as obvious.

I won't put it off that long, I promise. I know we're short on time, But I do need to go to bed. I got sucked into a book, and I've read all night and really need to go to sleep now, so I'll finish up reading through that when I wake up. I'm sorry I've been a sucky IC and player this game overall. I totally relate to catboi's comment about not being drawn to mafia lately. It was a bit fun to come out of retirement, and I do still like the overall puzzle of mafia, but quite frankly I don't think this set up is for me. I've tried to sit down and reread or even fully read the posts that people have posted, but I keep finding things I'd rather do instead. So sorry about that!

If anybody in the wall has any thoughts here, let me know. If it's something written in the past few pages, I probably haven't read it, so I'll look at that when I wake up as well. I probably won't sleep that long.

[Chara]

i think ffery's rl issues contributed a lot to her play this game, unfortunately. as town or as scum she said herself she hasn't had nearly amount of time she wanted to devote for this game.