i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[Elements]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

Omg

I think he is town though, hope I'm wrong

I have an annoying habit of grabbing things dangled in front of me. And i don't have the restraint not to use a day vig shot when given one. Especially when I don't know what my role is

[Gimli]

Gotta shoot those bullets and it's a fine kill and serves us well even if you die for it

If Elly dies I think we consolidate on quiet owl for now

[furtiveglance]

Fingers crossed

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one is willing to vote QO regardless of what UG flips, it thinks?

[Gimli]

Sure we're probably doing QO today as Elly just resolved UG either way with this shot

[Prince of Paterson]

Though it doesn't matter now, I don't see how anything in that imaginality post was compelling. If it weren't for the mason claim I would be voting imaginality until he was eliminated, the same as kitten around. With the mason claim, I'm still tempted. Disregarding the claim, he's been the scummiest poster of the game to me by a good margin.

[KittyTacky]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because I'd just target some townie that we weren't touching that night.

I thought my role seemed odd.

Anyway, who are we voting for Ranger today Gimli?

Nothing in the role indicates it being random.

I think it might have some utility in getting a vig hanged? But that's a weird gambit.

[MathBlade]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

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I noticed kitten around fencesat on you/Ythan several times (998,1097, 1836).

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because

I'd just target

some townie that we weren't touching that night.

This whole paragraph is pointless speculation that won't be solved til postgame and doesn't matter either way. The use of "I'd" is interesting to me given the rest of the paragraph is third person - seems like a slip maybe? Though I do tend to place too much weight in those sorts of things. However I do think kitten's approach to your slot is suspicious.

VOTE: UltimateGamer

It was also interesting to note kitten around townread three known town players early on D1. Also townread bianca/Gamma and CSF who've also flipped town, and was quick to believe Titus and me on the mason claim. So seens like a player who tries to get town cred with good reads and let town (or other scum) drive mislims.

By contrast kitten said either Prince or MathBlade is scum, and "one of" Prince, McMenno or lycan.

I feel suspicious of Prince based on that. Also because I lean town on lycan.

With trying to read McMenno I don't know what's more likely, would kitten try to get McMenno limmed instead of themselves if McMenno is town or if McMenno is scum, for bussing credit?

Kitten seems to have studiously avoided giving a read on Ranger which definitely doesn't ease my suspicions of Ranger.

I think there are multiple scum among:

Math, Elements, furtive
UG, Prince, Ranger

Not sure whether to add Owl in, on the one hand kitten did seem to defend Owl and try to slow a wagon on Owl D1, on the other hand kitten's reaction to being suspected for the confused townread on Owl seems a bit like scum annoyed at being caught for the wrong reasons which would point to Owl being town?

I don’t follow the logic here.

Why the two groups?

I know I am not as active but it’s crunch.

I am sorta just limping along best I can tbh.

[MathBlade]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

Huh?

[MathBlade]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

Omg

I think he is town though, hope I'm wrong

I have an annoying habit of grabbing things dangled in front of me. And i don't have the restraint not to use a day vig shot when given one. Especially when I don't know what my role is

You were given a day vig?

Is this what you meant earlier when I asked if you were given something good?

Meaning Titus maybe should have gotten the dayvig and it passed to you?

Or did you as scum steal it?

This leaves a lot more questions than answers.

[MathBlade]

Though it doesn't matter now, I don't see how anything in that imaginality post was compelling. If it weren't for the mason claim I would be voting imaginality until he was eliminated, the same as kitten around. With the mason claim, I'm still tempted. Disregarding the claim, he's been the scummiest poster of the game to me by a good margin.

Can we like just not?

Let’s actually talk shit out.

[Enchant]

Sounds like Desperado role

[MathBlade]

Sounds like Desperado role

Kinda does. Which makes me sus of Titus’s claim.

A desperado AND a suicide bomber?

Possible but that’s weird.

I would like for people to talk stuff out.

[Enchant]

I don't expect something normal from this setup so it's possible. I can say it's likely.

Just collecting claims and actions of roles will take bulk of my time and i have no wish to deal with it now

[Elements]

Sounds like Desperado role

'tis indeed
Or at least I was gifted a desperado shot

[MathBlade]

Sounds like Desperado role

'tis indeed
Or at least I was gifted a desperado shot

Were you? Or was it originally intended for Titus?

[KittyTacky]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

[Korina]

Please hold. Resolving desperado. I expect to unlock the thread in about ~5 minutes while I verify.

[Korina]

Elements has died. They were a town ???.

I need to verify with xyzzy about the status of votes. I don't believe anyone is actually hammered if votes aren't reset though. I'm going to assume for the current moment, until told otherwise: votes are reset. Majority is now 8 instead of 9, with 15 votes in play.

Votes have been reset. I'll post a new VC in a moment.

[Korina]

votecount 3.02

can i say i really hate how cs:go removed dust2 from the comp pool. in this essay, i will explain why dust2 is better than anubis.

15 players not voting (Quiet Owl, Prince of Paterson, McMenno, Lycanfire, Titus, HighPrincessErinys, imaginality, Enchant, Gimli, Not_Mafia, MathBlade, Ranger, KittyTacky, furtiveglance, UltimateGamer)

with 15 votes, it takes 8 to eliminate.

mod notes: stay lovely folks, y'all are valid <3

[McMenno]

what were they!!! c'mon.

[McMenno]

well UG as conftown is good I suppose

[Ranger]

well UG as conftown is good I suppose

Indeed.

do you think the SK is strongman? we already have a flipped (heavily limited) vig, I don't think there's a second, especially not one that kills each night

I agree all flipped kills have come from nontown.

I disagree our N2 vig would be the only possible source of extras.

Though it doesn't matter now, I don't see how anything in that imaginality post was compelling. If it weren't for the mason claim I would be voting imaginality until he was eliminated, the same as kitten around. With the mason claim, I'm still tempted. Disregarding the claim, he's been the scummiest poster of the game to me by a good margin.

I agree.

Starting review with all new info now.

[Titus]

I need to do VCA. Please stop murdering each other until I at least eyeball it

[Titus]

votecount 2.06

Guest Flavor tastes like Vanilla.
Why Vanilla? Who knows. Who also knows why I know this fact?
Not me. I'm innocent, I swear.

6 players voting for Quiet Owl (MathBlade, UltimateGamer, Ranger, imaginality, Elements, HighPrincessErinys)
5 players voting for kitten around (Cat Scratch Fever, Prince of Paterson, McMenno, Lycanfire, Gimli)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Gamma Emerald, Not_Mafia)
1 players voting for McMenno (furtiveglance)
1 player voting for Cat Scratch Fever (Enchant)
1 player voting for Lycanfire (kitten around)
1 player voting for UltimateGamer (Titus)

3 players not voting (Quiet Owl, GeorgeBailey, KittyTacky)

with 20 votes, it takes 11 to eliminate.

mod notes: Seeking replacement for Gamma Emerald still.

-snip-
VOTE: Whoever posted this

Please refrain from voting for anything that is not a player name. This vote was counted for UltimateGamer, however, it might not be counted next time.

Please let me know if this VC is incorrect, I do not believe it is incorrect.

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