Micro 1067: Is There a Doctor in the House? - Game over!

[GrandpaMo]

we always vote out std in f3.

[GrandpaMo]

we can make this exciting

we kill NM, and then we target scoliosis at night, unless their catch up is so incredibly towny that we have to kill someone else

and then we play f3 with people posting in the thread like a good ol' game of forum mafia

what do you say, STD?

problem is, std's slot's iso is combined more scummier than scolosis entire iso

[GrandpaMo]

ok we have agreed to vote galron today.

now the question is who to target.


what if enchant targets scolosis and i target std

[Gimli]

we can make this exciting

we kill NM, and then we target scoliosis at night, unless their catch up is so incredibly towny that we have to kill someone else

and then we play f3 with people posting in the thread like a good ol' game of forum mafia

what do you say, STD?

problem is, std's slot's iso is combined more scummier than scolosis entire iso

yes I agree with this, but still more fun to play f3 with STD

good question re: what if both target someone different, I think one of you can be weak and then end up dying, which could leave us with f2 instead of f3.

like one weak one CPR, for instance. weak dies to mafia, CPR kills town target, and they NK me

ends with 2 people and they win cause they reach parity

[Gimli]

if weak and cpr both go to the same player and its mafia, even if weak dies the cpr will kill mafia and we still win the game

[GrandpaMo]

we can make this exciting

we kill NM, and then we target scoliosis at night, unless their catch up is so incredibly towny that we have to kill someone else

and then we play f3 with people posting in the thread like a good ol' game of forum mafia

what do you say, STD?

problem is, std's slot's iso is combined more scummier than scolosis entire iso

yes I agree with this, but still more fun to play f3 with STD

good question re: what if both target someone different, I think one of you can be weak and then end up dying, which could leave us with f2 instead of f3.

like one weak one CPR, for instance. weak dies to mafia, CPR kills town target, and they NK me

ends with 2 people and they win cause they reach parity

CPR is never in me or Enchant fwiw

[GrandpaMo]

CPR should be in your group

[Gimli]

we can still have CPR in your group, cause it resolves last. so the same situation as when we were trying to protect the nurse. here's how elements could've died:
quack kills
paranoid protects
CPR resolves last and kills again

[Gimli]

in fact i think if we all piled on a single target we'd have a n1 townvig so lol us

[Not_Mafia]

ok lol VOTE: Not_Mafia

this sounds like scum giving up

How?

[GrandpaMo]

we can still have CPR in your group, cause it resolves last. so the same situation as when we were trying to protect the nurse. here's how elements could've died:
quack kills
paranoid protects
CPR resolves last and kills again

this makes no sense.

freedom, enchant, tabibitos, and i all should have targeted elements.

let's say i am quack
tabibitos is paranoid
enchant is CPR

mafia targets tabibitos

tabibitos dies

i target elements but elements is NOT killed because of paranoid blocking my action. and since CPR resolves last, CPR would have protected enchant.


ithink what i was trying to imply is that we shouldn't asusme that CPR is in our group
this doesn't make sense becaue elements would have not died during the night. but they did and that's because CPR not being in group one

[GrandpaMo]

ok lol VOTE: Not_Mafia

this sounds like scum giving up

How?

m8 im gon need u to give me why you are town and what is ur solve

[Gimli]

we can still have CPR in your group, cause it resolves last. so the same situation as when we were trying to protect the nurse. here's how elements could've died:
quack kills
paranoid protects
CPR resolves last and kills again

this makes no sense.

freedom, enchant, tabibitos, and i all should have targeted elements.

let's say i am quack
tabibitos is paranoid
enchant is CPR

mafia targets tabibitos

tabibitos dies

i target elements but elements is NOT killed because of paranoid blocking my action. and since CPR resolves last, CPR would have protected enchant.


ithink what i was trying to imply is that we shouldn't asusme that CPR is in our group
this doesn't make sense becaue elements would have not died during the night. but they did and that's because CPR not being in group one

CPR kills a target that wouldn't die instead if paranoid blocks quack, CPR isn't saving. if it's not saving, it's killing

[Gimli]

1 CPR Doctor - Saves their target if their target would otherwise be killed – otherwise, kills their target

so if one of you was paranoid/or simply didn't have a quack in the group, we can still have cpr killing elements.

like

naive
weak
cpr

cpr kills elements

[GrandpaMo]

we can still have CPR in your group, cause it resolves last. so the same situation as when we were trying to protect the nurse. here's how elements could've died:
quack kills
paranoid protects
CPR resolves last and kills again

this makes no sense.

freedom, enchant, tabibitos, and i all should have targeted elements.

let's say i am quack
tabibitos is paranoid
enchant is CPR

mafia targets tabibitos

tabibitos dies

i target elements but elements is NOT killed because of paranoid blocking my action. and since CPR resolves last, CPR would have protected enchant.


ithink what i was trying to imply is that we shouldn't asusme that CPR is in our group
this doesn't make sense becaue elements would have not died during the night. but they did and that's because CPR not being in group one

CPR kills a target that wouldn't die instead if paranoid blocks quack, CPR isn't saving. if it's not saving, it's killing

oh does that include JK as well?

i thought it really only implied og maf kill

[GrandpaMo]

1 CPR Doctor - Saves their target if their target would otherwise be killed – otherwise, kills their target

so if one of you was paranoid/or simply didn't have a quack in the group, we can still have cpr killing elements.

like

naive
weak
cpr

cpr kills elements

so wait why didnt u call this out when i first made the suggestion that quack was in group 1 lol . u were just gonna let me believe this false dilemma

[Gimli]

I'm an idiot and am figuring out the full implications of this game's mechanics as the gameday progresses too...

[Gimli]

so the point is you and enchant have to target the same player, otherwise we can flip mafia today and still lose cause of weak+cpr+factional kill combination, giving scum parity

[Not_Mafia]

ok lol VOTE: Not_Mafia

this sounds like scum giving up

How?

m8 im gon need u to give me why you are town and what is ur solve

I'm town because my role PM says so, I don't have a solve

[Gimli]

so the point is you and enchant have to target the same player, otherwise we can flip mafia today and still lose cause of weak+cpr+factional kill combination, giving scum parity

and if NM is town we will lose regardless if one of you is weak

[GrandpaMo]

I'm an idiot and am figuring out the full implications of this game's mechanics as the gameday progresses too...

ok so we are both on the same boat LOL

[GrandpaMo]

weak+cpr+factional kill

i doubt this will happen

i think weak doc has died

[Gimli]

weak+cpr+factional kill

i doubt this will happen

i think weak doc has died

why?

[GrandpaMo]

weak+cpr+factional kill

i doubt this will happen

i think weak doc has died

why?

its just a hypotehtical based on assumed probability

well im assuming because of probably of that happening is low due to there being a quack doctor already and 3 people have died.

and we can also assume CPR is still alive.

2 docs already dead, so we are left with 2 mafia and 4 docs, 2 of them being either cpr and quack,

in this setup, weak doc is very weak and especially with our plan we were targetting two townreads and therfore weak had no use n1.

if weak ends up in our group while targeting . if we can get quack + weak is 1 night vig that diminishes weak's power. we need weak + naive doctor for the best duo imo, which is the best scumhunting.

[Gimli]

we targeted you and elements, and elements is dead town. so weak isn't dead for being weak, unless you're scum. it can totally be either of you afaict.