Modifying the factional NK

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Modifying the factional NK

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:25 pm

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Bit of a silly question, but I was wondering what would the limit be to applying modifiers to Goons.
Things like bulletproof Mafioso or loud Mafioso are likely fine, but could one, say, have a one-shot Mafioso? A combined [active role] Mafioso (i.e. when they perform the NK they also perform [action] on the same target)? Would those roles by normal? Could theoretically a thing like combined Babysitter Hider Mafioso be normal, even though it tantamounts to giving scum a conditional sacrificial Vigilante? On the same vein, would stuff like a loyal SK be (theoretically) normal, even if clearly bastard-ish?
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:43 pm

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One-Shot Mafioso is not possible.

... I think.


Combined role ability with Kill is something we know. Most common: Janitor.

... Not sure. But there's nothing preventing them to.

Babysitter-Hider Mafioso is possible and normal.

SK is alignment though. Well probably?
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:24 pm

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mhm, thanks. I just asked cause I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how the modifiers syntax works exactly; the wiki explicitly says that e.g. announcing, ninja can modify the factional kill, but I do not see a syntactic difference between those and e.g. X-shot and the like. Though I guess I would find getting a X-shot Mafioso PM kinda a low-brow, so it's probably for the better it's abNormal I guess (even if I still believe it would make sense, as in a Goon that can only ever perform the nightkill themselves up to X times).

BTW, I also don't understand why exactly e.g. announcing can modify a Goon's kill, as per the wiki, but no mentions are made of modifying the SK kill in this way. I mean, it's probably not a good idea, but idk if bad enough to break the intuitive syntactic symmetry.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:58 pm

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I thought this thread was about mechanics rather than roles when I saw the title
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:42 pm

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Sk Kill can definitely be moddified as announcing/loud etc. in Normal Games

As for X-Shot Goon it should probably be normal. Traitors already exist which have no access to the mafia kill at all.
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