In post 4004, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I don’t know why you’re so ok with this. It seems like an completely unnecesarry mislim to have you flip town just to get Psyche tommorow by "deadsheeping" you. Everyone thinks Psyche is scummy already. If it must be tied to Shirou’s alignment i’d rather we just lim Shirou if Psyche flips town. Alternatively i might just use the powrs at my disposal and switch Shirou away with some other choices and we lim Psyche then.
Also, VOTE: Psyche
I think this may be the point Norwee might have given up (IE the point where scum felt like maybe they weren't winning). This was Norwee's first post on a brand new day. Just because after this post comes the meltdown I described interspersed with posts being annoyed at Shea (plus the swap from Shirou to Cakez). The content basically stops here.
In post 595, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Shirou very townie Pooky still idk.
That's what i got out from previous pages.
Explain further what is townie about shirou
I'm basing this on my meta knowledge. We've been chatting on Discord for a long time so i feel like i'm probably the best judge of character on their alignment. Haven't been wrong a single time so far. (Well, minus our first game together back in like 2019)
In post 820, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I realize this will just make my position worse like every single time ever. But it’s really annoying how i try to get a footing and everyone susses me. Makes me empathic for Cakez. Like what has he done, nothing. But Gamma just thunderdomed them. I also hate the vibes Pooky and to an extent Shirou has created in this game. I’ll be honest, i didn’t really townread Shirou. I just think one of them must be scum and i’d much rather believe it’s Pooky.
VOTE: Pooky
question for anyone: what's the over/under on how many pages before norwee admits this meta read on alisae is a fabrication too?
i gotta quote these one more time. do you know norwee literally never got around to explaining why they believed exactly one of shirou/pooky must be scum so intensely that they'd lie about a meta read? has anyone paid any attention at all to how the slot's reads on shirou/pooky progressed after this disclosure about their lie and inner conflict? for a summary, could look at the quotes in my last post
In post 3923, Lazy Shirou wrote:
the unique good point you've is that norwee early read on me/pooky was indeed weird, but there was no reason for him to not just maintain it if he wanted to get on my good side imo so i'm not sure it's scum indicative for him, we do kinda treat each other as town until proven wrong in general
i also think norwee is a bit too calm at some points but this is just bullshit:
In post 3909, Psyche wrote:
sheep hasn't read the thread yet. is this also norwee's excuse?
Sheep hasn't posted it's just a fact and HC has really low content on their ISO. I also don't have much of a read there it's rather PoE
In post 3926, Lazy Shirou wrote:
i think you got in an awkward position right now where you're forced to push norwe bc your intended push on alisae doesn't quite work anymore due to the replace out
In post 3936, Psyche wrote:
there's no scum motive in asserting titus was a null read after his flip. you've identified something you think is an inconsistency due to wording that sure i can see might be misleading, but connection to a scum win condition is not there.
also motive for norwee admitting to lying about read there was imo just to look townie based on the same reasoning you're providing. the reason i don't think it looks townie and that you're failing to engage w at all is that her volunteered justification for the lie is neither 1) credible (she had a pookie-xor-shirou read at that point and it was so important to resolve that she'd rather lie? but also not make any real push on pookie?), nor 2) consistent w her read progression from that point forward
also really? sat on this complaint about my titus post all this time bc of shyness? i am legit the wagon right now. of course you're gonna end up on mislim after mislim if you just sit on impressions w/o talking about them
In post 3943, Lazy Shirou wrote:
like, you're trying to shade the town flip wagons again to look more reasonable
you were pushing ali tho and i think most people see with the replace out that she's prob town here
you were also voting a mislim apparently psyche, saying we've been unreasonable for voting titus/furtive is the same narrative shea is trying to spin here by saying scum is "controlling" the game with the town flips and that he needs to be listened to
jesus of course scum is controlling the game. the challenge system makes it even easier than normal. also are you really scumreading shea??
In post 3955, Psyche wrote:
only saying this bc i may die but shirou is actually a natural follow-up for consideration if norwee flips as i expect
don't have much independently for a scumread though beyond articulable opinion that none of their posts clear them despite there being a lot of them
is someone gonna pretend omgus is a real tell too now
In post 4060, Thestatusquo wrote:
I have been posting for like 100 pages now on shirou being scum and I don't really feel like boiling it down into bullet points which I understand is crap because that's what I just asked you to do but I am extremely tired of shouting into the void and having people say oh maybe if you just do one more thing we'll consider listening to you and then not fucking listening to me.
Have you considered if maybe you're just wrong.
I've been wrong before and I will be wrong again but this is now the third or fourth time you've posted some variation of this rejoinder to me and its completely worthless. Explain why I'm wrong or shut the fuck up dude.
In post 4125, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
what if the scum team was some bullshit like STD + Enchant + Sir Cakes + NorwegianBoy
So there's some early pressure against Norwee from psyche right around this time. Actually, a lot more than I even remember. Then of course some interactions with Shea I don't want to quote but obviously the relevant ones are these ones. So I think this might mean the reads and such Norwee gives later that I looked at in the previous post might be compromised. So the post where Norwee reads half the players town and scum, the post where he complains about Shea, Gamma, and I. Those did not come from a player who was confident in their position anymore, but from a player trying to plant some associatives.
I guess I keep finding reasons to basically cut my PoE to STD/Sheep/Gamma, so that's nice at least.
I think I've exhausted what I can out of this part of my read back. I'm finding the same evidence over and over. On one hand this is good for me, on the other hand if the scumteam had a more sophisticated plan then I'm committed to losing the game for us RIP
Oh he didn't use vote tags so i missed it. Honestly std if you're town I'm sorry but i don't think I'm ever getting past you in this Poe and i just want this game to be over tbh.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
