Benign factions can win with town, but that doesn't necessarily make them pro-town. Some can be disruptive, and since there's just a 50% chance of a benign faction being in the game (vs a 50% chance of 2 different anti-town factions) and scum can just lie about it anyway, I don't think I would trust a 3P Benign or benign groupscum claim.
I've not played in any Grand Idea style games before. Is massclaim on the table? I don't think it's alignment indicative but it would hold people accountable. I would propose starting with Herta (who has already narrowed his claim down to 4) and popcorning from there. Thoughts?
I think the value of a massclaim would depend to a large extent on the tradeoff between {telling scum who to kill / roleblock / mess with} and {better night action coordination / information / locking scum into a lie}, it seems very very dependent on the exact setup we have. Seems like it ultimately comes down to player preference and my preference is to not do it, but this is a democracy. I guess that if we mess up worst case we could still attempt to Mountainous the setup.
On a semi-related note, I can't think of a super obvious reason for why Herta shouldn't full claim, I don't think not knowing the exact flavour of miller will cause scum to slip or anything like that.
In post 41, Gimli wrote:Claiming miller instantly is how you play miller, no?
Also maybe I'm starting to townread aisa, seems like a happy bunny that's towning the thread with bouncy energy
Kinda thought you claim miller either late D1 or early D2
Claiming miller after a red check is too late however.
The way I see it, the earlier one claims pretty much anything during a day phase the better - less pre-existing info, less time to plan a claim. Why did you think this?
In post 55, Aisa wrote:The way I see it, the earlier one claims pretty much anything during a day phase the better - less pre-existing info, less time to plan a claim. Why did you think this?
Miller is absurdly easy to fakeclaim so it shouldn't look like a fakeclaim
In post 52, Aisa wrote:
On a semi-related note, I can't think of a super obvious reason for why Herta shouldn't full claim, I don't think not knowing the exact flavour of miller will cause scum to slip or anything like that.
This is fair. There's nothing scum gains here other than a heads up. It's a universal miller which means that my check returns the smallest faction that exists at the beginning of the game. Which I think will be useful to learn. I don't know what that faction is so I'm curious myself. So if there's a cop with a shot they don't have a good idea about, take it on me.
In post 22, Aisa wrote:
Kokichi Oma, have you played with N_M before?
Yeah, I know they can be a bit of a troll at times.
Right… which is why if anything I feel like not redacting themselves is exactly in their wheelhouse, don’t you think?
I guess, but I feel like N_M is the type to either redact all, half or none. Not just themself. But, I haven't played with them in like 4 years so who knows.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 41, Gimli wrote:Claiming miller instantly is how you play miller, no?
Also maybe I'm starting to townread aisa, seems like a happy bunny that's towning the thread with bouncy energy
Kinda thought you claim miller either late D1 or early D2
Claiming miller after a red check is too late however.
I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 51, Marashu wrote:
Benign factions can win with town, but that doesn't necessarily make them pro-town. Some can be disruptive, and since there's just a 50% chance of a benign faction being in the game (vs a 50% chance of 2 different anti-town factions) and scum can just lie about it anyway, I don't think I would trust a 3P Benign or benign groupscum claim.
I've not played in any Grand Idea style games before. Is massclaim on the table? I don't think it's alignment indicative but it would hold people accountable. I would propose starting with Herta (who has already narrowed his claim down to 4) and popcorning from there. Thoughts?
I think page 3 is a little early for mass claiming here. Unless you have something to gain from this.
VOTE: Marashu[/v}
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 62, Kokichi Oma wrote:I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
why would you want to claim miller instantly if you're actually a Town Miller?
that just seems scummy posturing during RVS which is trying too hard
In post 62, Kokichi Oma wrote:I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
why would you want to claim miller instantly if you're actually a Town Miller?
that just seems scummy posturing during RVS which is trying too hard
I dunno, if I was miller I would just say so right away. I can only go based on what I would do in the same situation.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Why would I care about looking scumming when I know I'm town? Then again, I'm always scummy.
Either way, I don't think him claiming miller is that big of a deal for now.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Then lets make things interesting so we don't go back to RVS
VOTE: TemporalLich
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
