Open 872 | Citadel Conflict | Postgame

[Bellaphant]

...I think meg is right. Hmmm

[MegAzumarill]

In other news herta is now an IC.

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If they were scum they can qh farren

[Radical Rat]

I think dungeon's probably Drew.

Farren jumping is weird and annoying, but the narrative Meg has of him doing so to avoid the three stack isn't possible because I was the first one here. Drew joining immediately out the gate though was probably the best way for scum to guarantee not getting caught together. Get in early, make sure no one else joins and you're good.

Unfortunately there's no external proof of this unless Elements flips green, but if she's scum she's game throwing so. Hopefully it was just Nona.

[Radical Rat]

In other news herta is now an IC.

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If they were scum they can qh farren

Unless scum wants to delay the flip so you can sell this theory...

[Taly]

Rat

, who should be voted in Palace?

Ironically, probably Nona. I don't think she's faking not understanding things at this point,

and while I would LIKE to trust you... I also trusted Meg and now I'm paranoid I was just completely wrong

This

really

bothers me

Rat

, because the implication is that you think

Meg/I

are S/S and you aren't even discerning our interactions.

Your suspicion of me is understandable but the rationale feels cheap as fuck.

I mean, it doesn't help that Meg's picked you as the preferred Palace vote, but also there's like. A billion layers of WIFOM here. Does Meg support their partner and risk looking aligned? Does Meg support Town to make themself look better? Does Meg support Town to frame them after their own flip?

This setup in general is just a massive winery, and I don't really know how to penetrate it tbh

Taly what do you think? Uninformed and paranoid or trying to help out their buddy Elements here?

If he were intending to aid Elements it was a poor attempt as he posited your win in Palace.

But uninformed? I doubt. The confusion feels overstated and not in proportion to the intent to gamesolve aside from trading Meg post for post.

[Radical Rat]

In other news herta is now an IC.

?

If they were scum they can qh farren

Unless scum wants to delay the flip so you can sell this theory...

Though I guess in this case it would have to be Herta and not Drew...

Or you could just be bussing Farren. But I don't see how what he did is substantially different from what Nona did, and I doubt multiple scum would be in a hurry to out themselves that way...

[Nona1510]

In other news herta is now an IC.

How was i IC before this post?

Because I thought you posted after the vote

Ok it was late don't judge me

Either way now we all know you're a mean green scumhunting machine

Meg, Rat, who’s scum in the dungeon and why?

Farren, because they went their when they were supposed to be paired with my biggest 2 scum reads instead.

But you weren’t scumreading me?

[MegAzumarill]

In other news herta is now an IC.

How was i IC before this post?

Because I thought you posted after the vote

Ok it was late don't judge me

Either way now we all know you're a mean green scumhunting machine

Meg, Rat, who’s scum in the dungeon and why?

Farren, because they went their when they were supposed to be paired with my biggest 2 scum reads instead.

But you weren’t scumreading me?

Rat/ele/farren

[Nona1510]

I think dungeon's probably Drew.

Farren jumping is weird and annoying, but the narrative Meg has of him doing so to avoid the three stack isn't possible because I was the first one here. Drew joining immediately out the gate though was probably the best way for scum to guarantee not getting caught together. Get in early, make sure no one else joins and you're good.

Unfortunately there's no external proof of this unless Elements flips green, but if she's scum she's game throwing so. Hopefully it was just Nona.

Okay, maybe Rat is scum, because there’s no way you still think it’s me. And how is Elements game throwing? Neither me or Taly was ever going to vote her.

[Nona1510]

In other news herta is now an IC.

How was i IC before this post?

Because I thought you posted after the vote

Ok it was late don't judge me

Either way now we all know you're a mean green scumhunting machine

Meg, Rat, who’s scum in the dungeon and why?

Farren, because they went their when they were supposed to be paired with my biggest 2 scum reads instead.

But you weren’t scumreading me?

Rat/ele/farren

I’m starting to think I really am a town hero and Rat is scum now because I don’t believe their Farren/Drew reads and I think Rat is trying to mislead Herta.

Rat claimed to hard scumread Farren yesterday, going on and on about how I took their spot with FARREN and Elements.

[Radical Rat]

I said "hopefully" because if it wasn't Elements, it has to also not be Taly to win.

And Elements would be game throwing here because if she is scum, they just voluntarily allowed Town to win. Which if that's the case, I'll take it, but it doesn't make sense to do.

[Herta]

Here we go again.

[Radical Rat]

If the team is me/Elements/Farren, why do I join Court when I know Elements and Farren are in line to join next? Why wouldn't I have pushed harder to get in the Palace? Or just offered to go Dungeon instead?

[Nona1510]

I said "hopefully" because if it wasn't Elements, it has to also not be Taly to win.

And Elements would be game throwing here because if she is scum, they just voluntarily allowed Town to win. Which if that's the case, I'll take it, but it doesn't make sense to do.

How? They voted Taly right after I said I was never voting them and Taly has 0 reason to lie here. Elements was never getting voted by either me or Taly, so not gamethrowing.

[Radical Rat]

It is, literally, throwing the game though. If you want to argue it's justified in these circumstances, maybe, but it IS throwing. And if I were scum in Elements's position, I wouldn't be doing it.

[Nona1510]

If the team is me/Elements/Farren, why do I join Court when I know Elements and Farren are in line to join next? Why wouldn't I have pushed harder to get in the Palace? Or just offered to go Dungeon instead?

Well I beat you to palace and I said I would vote only Meg or Taly, so if neither were in palace, I would have self-voted over you.

You said that you took my slot iirc and what motivation do you have to pick dungeon over court? Scum has to IC a court member not a dungeon member and since we know Bella’s IC and I strongly townread Herta, why wouldn’t Elements have picked court? Zero chance of three scum in hood but it’s so beyond obvious that Elements is the palace scum now, so how are you even doubting that at this point?

Palace is done and both Taly and me claimed town and Elements said nothing. No one in the palace has any reason to lie at this point and if Elements suddenly says they’re town here, mine and Taly’s flips should prove otherwise.

I just don’t see how you arrived at Drew scum, Farren town suddenly, based on what?

[Nona1510]

It is, literally, throwing the game though. If you want to argue it's justified in these circumstances, maybe, but it IS throwing. And if I were scum in Elements's position, I wouldn't be doing it.

I’m saying Elements wasn’t winning the devotee vote no matter what. Neither me or Taly were ever going to vote them. Had they not voted Taly, I probably was going to. So perhaps Elements just wanted to silence both of us? Maybe that’s the motive?

But it doesn’t matter, they’re confiscum here but explain why Farren is town and Drew scum? Honestly it kind of sounds like you’re salty scum here pissed at your teammate,

[Radical Rat]

I was probably wrong about Drew scum based on Meg's IC comment on Herta.

It could still feasibly be Farren and Meg's bussing, but bussing is probably a bad plan here? Especially if Taly is legitimately Town here, Meg would know Palace was already lost, so bussing another area would need to be some galaxy brain WIFOM shit.

[Nona1510]

Here’s what I think Rat, I think you were maybe hoping to paranoia me on Taly so that I would self-vote and maybe no devotee gets elected if Taly didn’t vote me or maybe you were hoping that Taly would think we’re buddies and paranoia vote Elements?

Idk but you suddenly calling Drew scum for pretty much no reason after hard scumreading Farren yesterday makes no sense.

[Radical Rat]

I did forget that you get silenced post-flip. Maybe it is just Elements then...

Regardless, doesn't change much

[Nona1510]

I was probably wrong about Drew scum based on Meg's IC comment on Herta.

It could still feasibly be Farren and Meg's bussing, but bussing is probably a bad plan here? Especially if Taly is legitimately Town here, Meg would know Palace was already lost, so bussing another area would need to be some galaxy brain WIFOM shit.

How are you still even questioning that? We’re all getting flipped first and Taly has no reason whatsoever to lie here.

Meg also wanted me to vote Taly and now you’re arguing she’s bussing Farren? She autoloses in that case. Herta already pointed that out, If we get both palace and dungeon, we win, so it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for Meg to bus here and I now think you and Elements were distancing each other.

[Nona1510]

I did forget that you get silenced post-flip. Maybe it is just Elements then...

Regardless, doesn't change much

Why are you trying to get Drew flipped over Farren? What has Farren done to try to solve here? Sure it’s possible it’s Drew but really don’t think so.

Elements/Farren/Rat

is my current solve because I think you’re being really sketchy.

[Nona1510]

Scum!Meg would be the one gamethrowing here if she bussed because scum autoloses and I think you know that. Herta said we win both palace and dungeon, it doesn’t matter what happens in court.

[Nona1510]

I think solving

Palace
Dungeon
Court

sounds right.

I prefer dungeon, court, palace. I think the court solve is the most important one and the most difficult one of the three because my current solve is Elements/Farren/Meg?

And I want a say in that, sorry Taly, you’re just going to have to have patience.

I know I won't change your mind, but I want to be on record.

The reason for this is because on the face of it Court will be the most difficult group to solve. If we knock out the other two first, and they're both town wins, Court gets endgamed and Bella doesn't need to make that decision.

Rat you’re conveniently forgetting that people do read.

[Nona1510]

Scum!Meg would be the one gamethrowing here if she bussed because scum autoloses and I think you know that. Herta said we win both palace and dungeon, it doesn’t matter what happens in court.

During Day 2, there will be 3 concurrent activities at each location, with

the faction which gains control of the most locations being the overall winner

.

Scum isn’t going to bus.

I’m okay with dying now that I’ve solved the game: Elements/Farren/Rat. If there’s even the remotest chance of Farren flipping town, Bella still lim Rat.

But I don’t think Farren’s flipping town here.