Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[fireisredsir]

he does think it's more likely to be you but he is never winning a 3p against you and furtive

if i make the decision that i will not vote you then he basically has to accept that if you're scum you win in that moment regardless of what happens after that moment

and the best chance of town winning would be resolving that immediately so that if you aren't actually scum, we have more to work with and might actually win rather than klick just getting elimmed in 3p with you two for a loss

[fireisredsir]

its really very difficult for me to believe that you don't understand that town klick always dies in 3p here

if nothing he has said to this point has changed the mind of whoever is town between you and furtive then nothing will

[Gimli]

its really very difficult for me to believe that you don't understand that town klick always dies in 3p here

if nothing he has said to this point has changed the mind of whoever is town between you and furtive then nothing will

I think he is using it to kill me and take you and furtive to f3

[fireisredsir]

i know you think that

[fireisredsir]

you asked me if it makes sense as town

it does

[Gimli]

klick won't win a 3p, that's true, but only as long as I'm alive

I don't trust that you vote him over furtive

he agreed with losing the game to scum!me cause that gives him the only out he has at this point which is taking you and furtive to f3

[Gimli]

okay

[fireisredsir]

furtive is the only one here who is hesitant to engage with people and be transparent and explain thought processes

[furtiveglance]

Fire I explained enough

The questions you asked me were a little too socratic...it's like cmon we're going over the same ground again and again

[fireisredsir]

elo is hard for scum. it's hard to maintain solving, it's hard to keep your thought processes consistent and show progression and explain yourself without ever slipping up in your mindset. it's hard to realtime with people and talk to them and make sure your reactions are what they will think looks town

you and klick have both dove headfirst into doing all of that

because you're trying to solve the game and it's genuine

furtive hasn't

[fireisredsir]

Fire I explained enough

The questions you asked me were a little too socratic...it's like cmon we're going over the same ground again and again

you barely explained anything lol

[furtiveglance]

Fire, do you not see that I've thought it was Klick for a while

When we voted MT, Klick was my preference

Same when we voted Firebringer, initially at least

[furtiveglance]

Fire I explained enough

The questions you asked me were a little too socratic...it's like cmon we're going over the same ground again and again

you barely explained anything lol

It's like...

Fire: why klick
Me: klick sus
Fire: why does sus = mafia?

[furtiveglance]

Ok that post above is probably up there for worst of all time

[fireisredsir]

that literally isn't true though

you were so unsure that you said it was a toss up for you and that "klick was just a guess and a feeling" and insisted on a no elim

[fireisredsir]

and the times at which your opinions have changed don't seem to track to anything that has actually happened in thread

[furtiveglance]

that literally isn't true though

you were so unsure that you said it was a toss up for you and that "klick was just a guess and a feeling" and insisted on a no elim

I didn't contradict myself:

I thought it was Klick at 7 and 6

I was unsure at 4

[fireisredsir]

i know that what you said was strictly accurate, i am saying that your progression is unsupported

you said "I've thought it was klick for a while" as if that should be all the explanation you need and your suspicion has never wavered

but it did

[fireisredsir]

i just don't really believe that you have this anemic of a process as town

[furtiveglance]

Right, it did, but for most of the time it was on Klick

Fire, if you vote me here, Klick will join. He said as much. And that makes zero sense if he thinks it's Gimli like he said he did! It's very clearly desperation. I know it's hard to see when you're the one getting pocketed but you are.

[fireisredsir]

i literally just explained how it makes sense are you even reading the game

[Gimli]

i literally just explained how it makes sense are you even reading the game

yeah but your explanation is thin, it's still far superior for town!klick to play f3 against two unclears than to give the win to who he thinks is mafia.

[Gimli]

furtive showed, what, 3 pages ago? that he could be convinced its me

klick is handing me the win when he thinks im mafia? really you believe that?

[fireisredsir]

i would probably do more or less exactly what klick did if i was in the same position as town

[Gimli]

I said I wouldn't change my mind on f4, and I won't, initially because I don't wanna have to re-read everything and I don't wanna change my conclusion on a whim, as I decided it was probably klick. however, every real time interaction I had with him this gameday strenghtened that read, so I feel rn that I don't have to re-read. but if I'm taken to f3, I'll go ahead and read it again and figure it out. if I'm wrong and it's furtive I can figure it out.

now klick can stop the tunnel and can stop defending himself with absurdly bad WIFOM at any point, he doesn't have to have me cleared for it.