Election! | GAME OVER

[sheepsaysmeep]

I just ISO'd SKrew and didn't really like it and am like tryna writing some sentences

[sheepsaysmeep]

tho I would still wanna do ircher instead today sorry bro

[furtiveglance]

Ircher is being weird yh

It's just that Skrew is so clearly optimal

[Alisae]

alisae just curious what u think if one were to suggest this is DADV

I mean the game at all points, even when meowth was just kind of decided as the elimination was slow and like this.
It's not like we want day to end right now, we're still figuring out how to proceed with funding.

Also it's not like Ircher is posting, I feel like they're kind of trying to do the bare minimum.
I would say its very different from when I said that in the other game with Furtive (my first game with Furtive) and Furtive was posting things that I could see being posted from a villager, as well as enchant and titus (both villagers) being skeptical about the situation.

[Alisae]

I also think Ircher is like the only real scumread I had in this game where as Furtive I kind of switched from townreading them at start of game to fos' them for posting weird stuff mid day 1 when I was having trouble finding scumreads so like

I would like to hope to be right on my only like, real scumread in this game?

[Alisae]

I think the contexts between Firebringer game where I said Dead Air Dead Villager and here are just different?

[sheepsaysmeep]

idk when I skimmed through the thread SK's vibes were nice but I somehow missed this philosophy of like "I have no intention to really have many reads right now" that I think is mildly wolfy

it's just, he has so little clear reads that it's kinda bad, but it still seems like he's trying to seem like he's doing more than he really is
and there's no overarching consistency

-asking lots of questions that don't go anywhere
-when he does give reads, he sometimes seems a little reluctant to make it a legit assertive thing, like calling things "weird" rather than scummy
-talks about Bingle or GL wolfy but it's really hard to call them legit wolfreads as they only are mentioned every 30 pages, and he doesn't attempt to like do anything with those reads like convince ppl of them
there's a sort of dissonance between talking about his wolfreads like they're 100%-confident tunnels, when that just doesn't line up with anything at all
-blindly sheeps onto meowth for day 1 which I find bad because a) his wolfread on GL when GL was a major meowth pusher, b) I feel like his approach to the game and meowth's are fairly similar and that should've been a factor involved

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think the contexts between Firebringer game where I said Dead Air Dead Villager and here are just different?

ok yeah idk I didn't think it was either I was just mildly curious when I thought about how this is so agreed upon

[Alisae]

Oh also the games are just built differently
here its like "WE GOT 48 HOURS OF DOING NOTHING, ANOTHER 48 HOURS BEFORE WE CAN KILL SOMEONE"
and then it's like finally we get to the part where we can kill the other players but by that point it becomes "WE HAVE TO WAIT AN UNDISCLOSED AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE WE KILL SOMEONE BECAUSE TREASURER HAS TO DECIDE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FUND" and its like
man
this game is so residentsleeper

like it goes on and on and on with not much happening because it's mostly waiting, not to mention people are put in situations where they don't really have agency to actually play too hard (this is how I feel like atm cuz like even if I did try to massively steer the course of the who the fuck cares, I'm basically screaming into a void for no reason that takes up a lot of energy for not a lot of reward)

so we're just put in these situations where it's like
>we identify person who we want to kill
>person we want to kill doesn't do much of anything
>no one changes their mind
>we're waiting till we can finally press the kill button
>then we're finally ready to press kill button.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I guess I also vaguely remember people being like "ircher kinda towny now" here and there so u cant rly call it that by definition lmao

[Alisae]

idk when I skimmed through the thread SK's vibes were nice but I somehow missed this philosophy of like "I have no intention to really have many reads right now" that I think is mildly wolfy

This is literally me D2 and I still stand by me liking their approach to Cakez on D1.

[Alisae]

Like ig Skrew isn't projecting super dominant townie energy sure I'll give you that but like
idunno I don't think they have that much agency to even do much right now.
If anything they have a lot more agency tomorrow regardless of the result, I think tomorrow will be a more interesting day to try to get a read on Skrew than today

[sheepsaysmeep]

ok I will read ur iso next and see what that makes me think

[furtiveglance]

Alisae your read on Skrew doesn't explain your reluctance to vote him

[Alisae]

[UNOwen]

Can people other than GL explain their refusal to kill SleepyKrew? I explained why it's a win/win already.

Let me assure you that as your local council member - even though you didn't vote for me and are under investigation for libel, falsification and general misconduct - I have ensured that

your

local concerns have been raised at the committee level for consideration.

[furtiveglance]

Is UNOwen lazy scum cruising on a D1 bus

Hmmm possible

[Alisae]

Furtive ask me about Skrew when Skrew is actually a realistic option in this day phase

[furtiveglance]

But why is he not realistic

[Alisae]

A lot of why what I think you're just not doing anything is even if you think it may be optimal to kill Skrew (I think it's not about if it's optimal or not to you, you just want to hang on this 1 fos and you're saying it's optimal to try to sound more convincing when in reality you just really want the player dead) is because Skrew is just not a realistic option this day phase.

You're basically vanity voting and I would rather go after my own scumread which can realistically happen during this day phase over vanity voting with you.

[Alisae]

But why is he not realistic

Who votes Skrew

[Alisae]

Gimmie names build teh wagon composition for me

[UNOwen]

Is UNOwen lazy scum cruising on a D1 bus

Hmmm possible

I am literally the most hard working council member this town has and this is how I'm described in the press???
Democracy is a travesty.

[Alisae]

Maybe because you're less experience or skilled than me, you would want to flip the person who copped someone just so you can trust that they copped them, cause after all, it is both easier and lazier to just use your vote to solve someone's alignment than to actually form a read.

[Alisae]

But I mean in this case you do have a read, you just think he's a wolf.
Me? I think the guy is just likely to be villager.

I don't think wolves interact with town by pretending to have them as town just to see how they react. I've literally never seen it before and I felt like that didn't feel fake to me