Micro 1070 | a micro normal | Endgame

[Klick]

Ari actively wants to atm and Aureal is considering it

[Alisae]

Why would I pick that fight
you're so much better than me

I have no clue why you think this
I'm very logical but I'm not persuasive

because my wolf game in micros when I am by myself is trash

[biancospino]

Votecount

VC 3-VII

Alisae (2 = E-1):

Klick, Gimli

Gimli (1 = E-2):

Alisae

Not voting (2):

Aristeia, Aureal

With 5 alive, it takes 3 for an execution.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-03-06 00:11:00)

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[Klick]

Why would I pick that fight
you're so much better than me

I have no clue why you think this
I'm very logical but I'm not persuasive

because my wolf game in micros when I am by myself is trash

Which is why you dig yourself into a 'Gimli is scum' tunnel
You can pull off one mislim while making it look like you have no plan
Then tomorrow you go 'welp, gg Klick' and bank on looking towny enough today to get the other player on your side

[Klick]

What *would* you be doing as wolf alone here Alisae?
Like *lay down and die* isn't the answer

[Alisae]

Ari actively wants to atm and Aureal is considering it

Aureal will vote me because she can't figure out what alignment the massclaim comes from.
Ari would probably start out wanting you ya but as the day goes longer she'll take the leap of faith and vote me. If I'm a wolf, I don't think I'm fooling this player if she looks for it.

If I'm a wolf I can't cross finish.

Even in this situation I can't cross finish. It's a lot easier for me to cross finish if I shoot you n1. So why is wavelength dead? This game is a lot easier if I just shoot you at night because people do NOT care about what dead townies think in mafia.

[Klick]

My theory is that you'd play it very similar to how I'd want to and try to make your play seem illogical from a scum perspective and have that be your path to victory
Because you're already aware that your D1/D2 play isn't likely to endgame

[Alisae]

What *would* you be doing as wolf alone here Alisae?
Like *lay down and die* isn't the answer

I would probably opt to keep my options open instead of limiting what I can do.

[Klick]

'Why is Wavelength dead' is a good question regardless
I think Wavelength was comparably a consensus townread to me on D1 but I don't know why specifically Wavelength would be killed over myself N1
I was not expecting to survive N1

[Klick]

What *would* you be doing as wolf alone here Alisae?
Like *lay down and die* isn't the answer

I would probably opt to keep my options open instead of limiting what I can do.

I tend towards not believing this
It's not majorly influencing my read but I think in this situation as scum you'd basically be doing exactly what you're doing

[Alisae]

'Why is Wavelength dead' is a good question regardless
I think Wavelength was comparably a consensus townread to me on D1 but I don't know why specifically Wavelength would be killed over myself N1
I was not expecting to survive N1

Wavelength makes it easier for someone to try to get my townflip!
That's my theory.

[Klick]

Long day

Myko and Klick are both town.

Andante's reentry to the thread without having read anything makes more sense if she thought that she was at E-1, so I don't hate her interaction with Klick. But I also don't really town read Andante, would say null, so feels weird defending her

I think Wavelength kill does a fair amount to enable the myko elimination

[Alisae]

What *would* you be doing as wolf alone here Alisae?
Like *lay down and die* isn't the answer

I would probably opt to keep my options open instead of limiting what I can do.

I tend towards not believing this
It's not majorly influencing my read but I think in this situation as scum you'd basically be doing exactly what you're doing

OKAY BUT I'M TOWN
THIS IS HOW I PLAY END GAME WHEN I'M A VILLAGER WHO KNOW'S THEY'RE RIGHT.
I LITERALLY WAS SCREAMING FOR THE SAME PLAYER TO DIE AND NO ONE WOULD LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE APPARENTLY THEY TRUST TOLD WHEN THEY DIDN'T??????????????
EVEN WHEN I BROUGHT UP GENUINELY CONCERNS THAT WERE LEGITMATELY THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN THE GAME
NO ONE WAS LISTENED TO ME BECAUSE THEY TRUST TOLD.
AND THEN DUCKIE REPLACES IN SHITPUSHES ME FOR IT AND GETS AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE WAS JUST SO INACTIVE DURING THAT PHASE

[Alisae]

like i have the BEST read in the game as to what happened in it and everyone else just goes "uh ya but they trust told"
???????????????????????????

There was another Micro where I lost my fucking mind in late game situations because I felt like I did literally everything in my power to corner and kill the person who I thought was obvwolfing but village just went "ya no I don't agree sorry"

[Klick]

Help me really clearly see that Gimli is a wolf then

I think Gimli's D1 is really good

[Klick]

Gnight yall

[Alisae]

Help me really clearly see that Gimli is a wolf then

I think Gimli's D1 is really good

I think the most simplest explanation for what happened in this game was Herta put out a questionable Andante read that was probably supposed to be a joke, and Gimli decided that his best course of action was to try to shop for what was possible with Ari early, test the waters a little bit, and then when you offered to go to Andante, seize the moment and go for the bus. If you didn't offer I feel like he would have put up Andante up at some point because he's the person that I feel like really brought the read back to the table.
Andante was completely forgotten about at the time of the game as an elimination. Like they just existed and they were just there but everyone else was focused on like me and everyone else that was posting and Herta. I think it makes sense from a wolf!Gimli perspective while catching up to bus. His partner from his perspective looks extremely wolfy, everyone hasn't really at it yet so if he brings it up he can get cred, and it would probably be easier for him to try to deepwolf the game by himself than get caught up and getting themselves caught via associatives.

I think it just make so so so much sense for Gimli to have gone "Ya, I think I want to bus this" and go for the hardbus. If anything I don't think wolves expected Ari to bring down rightful justice as she did. I

[Alisae]

I think that is Gimli's best course of action and I think that is just what happened in this mafia game.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Gimli
this is definitely a wolf, Herta was not towny, gimli seems to be trying way too hard to push me, I'm good with voting here

THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT SHE DOES WHEN SHE COMES INTO THE THREAD

[Alisae]

Like I just see how that D1 played out and how all of those pages played and I just can't help but think that he gets way more out of bussing here than I do.
Way way way more.

I've explained how I don't have to bus there. Myko had been defending her, Wavelength didn't seem like he was going to vote andante, Datisi was gone, and Ari was pre-occupied.

If I'm a wolf w/ Andante, I genuinely think I get more out of Andante if I have her hammer Aureal. Lots of wine there to be had.

[Alisae]

I could probably find a way to inflate the pages too, I LOVE doing that as a wolf cause everyone I post I know that it's a wolf post
I had to do so when I was playing wolf with mena because I had to communicate with him and get away with it with 2 townies watching cause we didn't have a wolf PT LOL

It's really easy to hide when one assumes that everything is just junk

[Alisae]

We still couldn't coordinate a kill on anyone btw, that game was atrocious I lost my mind

[Alisae]

If I'm a wolf w/ Andante, I genuinely think I get more out of Andante if I have her hammer Aureal. Lots of wine there to be had.

Also if I am wolf look at how I'm interacting with her. If I'm a wolf, do you think that I think this is a wolf game where I would want to care about when I see Andante play like that? It'd be so much more easier for me I feel like to cut the drag early and do so in the way that gives town little information to go off of. I legit remember a wolf game I won where town was eliminated on page 1 because wolves faked a guilty in rvs thinking it was a joke and a townie took it seriously and put a QUAD VOTE DOWN ON THE PLAYER.

Short D1s that give town nothing to work with?
Tasty gimmie.

[Alisae]

I think the best part of a play like that by the time I get to D3 I'm playing my wolf game to an audience that has 0 experience with wolf!ali.

[Alisae]

obviously we need to figure out Andante

what's the rush?

I dunno, ask mykonian? He was getting very worked up about a 'deadline' or something. And the game hadn't even been open 48 hours yet.

I'm asking you cause you're voting me because of a rush, and you're just "idk go ask myko" like what?

VOTE: Aureal

YOU are the one voting ME because of said rush, and you don't even know what this rush is?? "Oh idk, there's a rush, just gonna plop my vote on the person not here right now, that's a real easy wagon to start pushing"

If one is trying to disguise bussing, the best way to do it is to show impulsivity as one would think with bussing that it looks like one person putting their vote down and never moving it.