Mini 2292: Anything uPick - Game Over!

[Pink Ball]

Fuck off Wave

[Pink Ball]

Ok, I'm here, and this post is directed to you, Wave.

I gave it a second thought and now that there's no chance that either you or Flea got a redirector shot left, I'm in a better negotiation position than you are.

First off, Ali wants to ask you something:
"Do you realize where the idea came from that you could bring my targets back to life by killing me?"
'Cause it came from me, and I lied about it. What do you think that makes me look better in a position where I'm the main proposed elimination on D3: saying that by getting killed my targets come back, or saying that they aren't coming back? I'll answer that for you: we are on D5 and I'm still standing (yeah yeah yeah).
So you think I'm lying right now but told the truth earlier on D3? Your hopes are based on a lie, if you still want to be hopeful based on a lie, so be it, you do you, but I'm not losing this game because of you.

So back to my new strategy, now that I believe there's no redirector: I'm 1v1ing you, I don't care if you're town or scum, you either decide to win this shit with me RIGHT NOW, or you lose against me.

If you don't vote Flea, I'll vote no elimination and target you tonight.
- From scum!Flea's point of view, either if fae's believes my claim or not, this would be in fae's best interest since fae wouldkill Enchant and win. Scum's win condition is to control 50% of the population, so it doesn't matter what my role or win condition is. Fae won't shoot me in the off chance that I'm lying and my targets come back to the main thread: you and Ali (or Kokichi, depending on who I decide to yeet) would be back with Flea being confscum.
- If you're scum, you lose, period.

As I said when I revealed my entire strat and information I had:

But I'd rather win with town, since after N1 I had to legitimately scumhunt and I've been trying to win with town the entire game, so that'll feel like the better scenario, the "good ending" of this game.

And as Ali said: "force him to accept the win here, make him win kicking and screaming along the way".

[Wavelength]

Fuck off Wave

[Pink Ball]

I'm not giving you the win if you don't cooperate with me, I was perfectly clear with that. I'm saying that I need fae's shot to win with faer, and you say "thanks for confirming bla bla bla".

[Wavelength]

In what world would I eat Flea after a no elimination... I need fae's shot to win

In what world would I eat Flea after a no elimination... I need fae's shot to win

In the world that you have a survivor win con, and you can win with the town if you kill the person that you believe to be the last scum.

But thanks for confirming that you are not thinking of how you win with a Survivor win con lol

I can quote things too

[Pink Ball]

I'm talking about this

But thanks for confirming that you are not thinking of how you win with a Survivor win con lol

I already explained why in the post I reposted that if you don't vote Flea today, town loses because I'm scumsiding. And even in the post you're quoting, "I need fae's shot to win" is EXACTLY what a survivor's win con looks like. So yes, at this point, you're just trying to make me mad.

[Wavelength]

"I need fae's shot to win" is EXACTLY what a survivor's win con looks like.

Not it doesnt.

If your wincon is a Survivor, then eating scum = a guaranteed win.

IF your wincon is a Survivor, eating town = a chance at winning.

Scum could shoot you, meaning you lose. Or you and scum could double up leading to a 1:1:1 day tomorrow.

So "I need fae's shot to win" means "Killing scum does not = I win" I.E. You don't have a survivor win con.

[Pink Ball]

If you don't vote Flea, I'll vote no elimination and target you tonight.
- From scum!Flea's point of view, either if fae's believes my claim or not, this would be in fae's best interest since fae wouldkill Enchant and win. Scum's win condition is to control 50% of the population, so it doesn't matter what my role or win condition is. Fae won't shoot me in the off chance that I'm lying and my targets come back to the main thread: you and Ali (or Kokichi, depending on who I decide to yeet) would be back with Flea being confscum.

[Pink Ball]

Thanks for showing me why this has felt like a waste of time

[Pink Ball]

Scum can shoot me? Sure, they have the ability to submit a nightkill on me. Scum 'will' shoot me? No, because they don't know if I'm telling the truth or not so the mere chance that Kokichi and Ali come back is practically sentencing themselves next day. Scum wins shooting Enchant, PB wins targetting Wave. It is the survivor's fucking wincon

[Wavelength]

But you said that you NEEDED Fea's shot to win.

Fea shooting Enchant in the scenario you presented does not help your win con over that of just killing scum. It would only help Flea.

Anyways, that slip has made me feel way more confident in my belief that your win con is that of a SK.

[Pink Ball]

And to make it even more clear for you: if we don't eliminate today, I become a kingmaker. That's it.

[Wavelength]

In what world would I eat Flea after a no elimination... I need fae's shot to win

This does not say "Fea won't shoot me, because I am scum siding with Fear"

It says IN WHAT WORLD would you eat flea, because you NEED fea's shot to win.

Those are not equivalent.

[Pink Ball]

Wave, are you fucking kidding me right now?

How is a SK!slip saying that they need the scum to shoot town, if said SK has to target the scum, making the scum fail their shot since their action resolves before the scum?

[Pink Ball]

Ok, let me correct myself, since you clearly like taking things out of context:

- If we don't eliminate today, I want Wave to lose.
- I think Wave is town, so I have to scumside.
- If I want town to lose, I need to target someone different than scum.

So what I'm saying is I need fae's shot to win WITH SCUM, which is what I've repeating unceasingly.

[Pink Ball]

You're either flailing or fucking with me intentionally, or both

[Wavelength]

If you are a survivor who can townside like you are claiming, then eating the last scum is an INSTANT WIN.

If that is true, then you DO NOT NEED the scum's shot to win at this point.

So yeah, your statement on "in what world would I do that", I think that you just slipped that it is not true.

[Pink Ball]

AND IF I'M NOT A SURVIVOR I DO NOT NEED THE SCUM'S SHOT EITHER

[Pink Ball]

SCUMSIDING'S AN INSTANT WIN TOO IF WE GO TO N5 WITHOUT A KILL BECAUSE SCUM NEVER SHOOTS ME, STOP BENDING REALITY

[Wavelength]

Talking to you about this is pointless, because you can never stop arguing that I am wrong.

But it for SURE made me way more confident in my view of the game.

So thanks

[Enchant]

Oh wait did we lose

[Enchant]

No i mean, i think if Pink Ball still wants to help town and survivor, he can just... Uh... Kill mafia at night.

Why force town by insisting that mafia need to be elimed today.
... Which is prob flea idk.

So yeah good luck i guess.

[Pink Ball]

Sure dude I show you why your logic is off and go with the "this is pointless".

At this point I can only explain your behavior as scum that knows that is fucked because I want to townside and if I don't townside I target you, and I'm just wrong on Flea.

I don't give a fuck either way, 'cause Flea's never voting you, we go no-elim, I target you, I win with town. Best scenario.

[Pink Ball]

No i mean, i think if Pink Ball still wants to help town and survivor, he can just... Uh... Kill mafia at night.

Why force town by insisting that mafia need to be elimed today.
... Which is prob flea idk.

So yeah good luck i guess.

We need three votes today, that means survivor + 2 town voting together. I believe you and Wave are town, and Wave doesn't want to win, so I'm not giving town the win.

[Pink Ball]

To rephrase that: I want to win with town today, I will win with scum tonight if town doesn't work with me.