Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[Klick]

Not fine with my play for most of this game but I'm fine with the result I guess. I think all scum played pretty well considering the situation.

[Ausuka]

But yeah I hadn't viewed the visionary as important since I didn't think it would change things based on if tweet knew you were a visitor too, I guess

It was a sloppy mistake and I probably didn't deserve to win but whatever

[Klick]

You put in effort where it wasn't needed. You were the deciding factor at F7 and you chose to bus and also Skygazer disrupted that. The low synergy there along with the setup stuff is what made me just vote

Yeah I didn't think it was worth it trying to pivot away from sky there given how I reacted to that pedit thing

I also think not efforting if it wasn't necessary for scum to effort would have made me obvious over time

With the action thing, I don't think there's really anything realistic that could make it.the case. Maybe if I was a Lazy Compulsive Loud Visionary

Er sorry F9. I felt like the interplay between you choosing gera to target but then Sky self-hammering to stop that was very well executed.

[Ausuka]

Despite pretending otherwise in parts of this game role stuff has never exactly been my forte lol

I do think I have a decent sense of normal.balance and this was very off that, and in practice the town roles.never posed a challenge to us

Pedit: Oh thanks that part was kind of planned

I was actually worried if someone would notice how I showed up and Sky like hammered right away. I said.i thought she could get away with it, because she said Mena was scummier than Gera in her posts and there was like an hour left. I think if she stuck to that line instead of like saying she didn't realise what was happening maybe f7 is more complex, although I guess it's possible that's not a good thing for us

[Ausuka]

The informed detective claim was explicitly not planned

[Ausuka]

VOTE: geraintm
Gimli pushing this isn't great but I think this flips red.more.often than mena.does sooo

i'd rather vote mena than gera and i think a flash wagon would just wind up with a no-elim here, there aren't enough ppl on

also ive always wanted to lolhammer so

VOTE: menalque

24 second time difference

[Klick]

Your team wasn't informed at all that all roles had modifiers?

[Klick]

Can you confirm quickly what your role is?

Hider

any modifiers??

I'm x2 shot, does that count as a modifier?

Like this is hilarious if that's the case

[Klick]

Was another thing that tipped me over the edge. I thought it was rather likely that you actually had that info and I doubted you were like 'Informed Loud Visionary' or something

[Ausuka]

Oh yeah no we had absolutely no information

I wanted her to claim a role with a modifier because the roles mostly have modifiers and like, mods include modifiers in roles a lot more often than scum claim modifiers I think. I told her like, all the roles in this game have been claimed with modifiers, which was true except kawaii actually hadn't and I was exaggerating but skygazer interpreted it literally so it was kind of my fault I guess?

I suggested indecisive JOAT

[Ausuka]

It definitely worked out in the end though lole

[Klick]

This is why you question the state of things even when it looks obvious Gimliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

(Half-joking I've got no right I was terrible this game)

[Ausuka]

I wouldn't really say either of you played badly

I mean this game was scumsided and you still took it to f3

[Gimli]

this is awfully illegal of me (pls don't ban me I have games to play) but I have to get going in a few minutes and I won't be here to give props to ausuka but I just wanna say ausuka you're the absolute best. I didn't play well nor did town play well but part of it was because you made this game impossible to solve.

klick I'm sorry for the tunnel, it wouldn't matter in the end even if I townread you cause I'd still get it wrong

thanks MT for replacing into a lost position, you're the best

I'm sorry elsa jay, I couldn't make up for that d2 misflip with a win </3

gg all thanks implosion for modding this mess of a game

[Ausuka]

During the early game I thought most of the pushes against me didn't make much sense but like it doesn't really matter what I think and like even if it's mostly NAI stuff having one or two good points is enough to make your reads pretty good

Like gimli was right about me and enchant I think. Like, i would have townread enchant as town, but i would have been significantly less assertive about it. I wanted to avoid the appearance I was trying to take credit for an enchant townflip without fighting it, and I'm not sure whether that was a wrong decision, but Gimli was right that it wasn't natural.

I was sort of surprised by Enchant suddenly going from having like pretty average reads to like SUPER DUPER AMAZING reads at the end of d3 but like, communication and whatever

[Ausuka]

And yeah sorry MT I didn't want to risk losing but I think it's more likely than not if i had pushed to end the game before you replaced in it would have worked and it would have saved you a lot of time >.>

[Ausuka]

this is awfully illegal of me (pls don't ban me I have games to play) but I have to get going in a few minutes and I won't be here to give props to ausuka but I just wanna say ausuka you're the absolute best. I didn't play well nor did town play well but part of it was because you made this game impossible to solve.

klick I'm sorry for the tunnel, it wouldn't matter in the end even if I townread you cause I'd still get it wrong

thanks MT for replacing into a lost position, you're the best

I'm sorry elsa jay, I couldn't make up for that d2 misflip with a win </3

gg all thanks implosion for modding this mess of a game

Gimli noooooo what if Morning Tweet is a town vengeful 2-shot hider

[Ausuka]

(It's something I even considered due to the lack of town power that a vengeful might exist but if the game ends that way it'd be hilarious and I'd be impressed kawaii thought to hide it)

[Gimli]

when HK mafia was ending I was like "what if klick is BP, what if someone can still hide and fuck up my kill and I don't have parity and I outed myself?" and that paranoia was constantly in the back of my head to the point where I was HUNTING FOR A BULLETPROOF by constantly making reference to it in the thread

I think the loneliness of that solo win as maf seems similar to this cause your team mates potatoe'd and let you carry it through. gera and sky made a point out of making you look good with their flips.

I think making the towniest looking role in the game a scum role is fucking brutal lol, but that's not why we cleared you, it was your posting

[Gimli]

did you know sky would claim visiting me? what happened there?

[Ausuka]

yeah no the setup was brutal for you guys

I feel bad for taking advantage of it but it would be against my win condition to not bring it up

poedit: yeah I knew that. sky was ready to die in that day and she said she thought it would make me look good, which ended up working out

[Ausuka]

when HK mafia was ending I was like "what if klick is BP, what if someone can still hide and fuck up my kill and I don't have parity and I outed myself?" and that paranoia was constantly in the back of my head to the point where I was HUNTING FOR A BULLETPROOF by constantly making reference to it in the thread

Yeah i referenced it in this game but i've won a solo scum game before more similar to that and I had similar thoughts there

This is a bit different since even though gera and sky were fine with dying they were actively working to help me as they did

[implosion]

Vote Count 6.1 (final)

Morning Tweet (2): Klick, Ausuka

Not Voting (1): Morning Tweet

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to eliminate.

Morning Tweet was a

Town Two-Shot Hider

.

Klick,

Town Compulsive Visitor

, is endgamed.

Ausuka,

Mafia Compulsive Visionary

, survives and wins, along with Skygazer and geraintm!

[Skygazer]

fine with scum thread release

gg!!

[implosion]

Mod PT: viewtopic.php?t=90657
Dead PT: viewtopic.php?t=90661
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