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[bristep123]

To support my last point

@Doctor Drew let’s follow this thread then, why track red last night? Also how does this correlate with your certainty that I’m scum since Red was hard on me d2 only changing vote to hammer Dessew?

This was me, well before Tchill’s post which he claimed was the only time someone called out Drew’s claim to have tracked Red.

[Thestatusquo]

OH BOY ITS CAT TIME

VoteCount 4.1

Tchill13 [ 2 ]

T3, bristep123

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Tchill13, DeasVail

With 4 alive it takes 3 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-04-24 16:22:31)

[Tchill13]

We need 3 people to vote the same. I'd like to hear from t3 why I'm scum.

It's obviously bristep from my pov and I'd like the opportunity to build a legitimate case there before getting hammered.

I'm one of the main reasons college got voted out. I'm the only one that pointed out drew didn't change his stance from a red town read then all of a sudden "tracked" red.

Bristep I do not believe has tried to game solve at all. Other than letting my pet peeve get the best of me as far as red goes I've played pretty well and have helped town along the way.

I just don't see a world where bristep is scum with Doctor Drew tbh

So there's just no room for me to operate at all in that? I mean the game history shows pretty obviously why bristep is much more likely to be scum with Drew/enchant

[bristep123]

It doesn’t, you may try and spin it that way but late D2 and all of D3 has to show that I am not scum with Drew.

[Tchill13]

There's no way that's the case though! Day 1 shows I'm not scum with college! I could pull the same argument.

[Tchill13]

You should probably claim

Town Novice Odd Night Vig. Basically, I can shoot on all odd nights except for N1.

Why except N1?

I've seen and heard of several odd and even night roles, but never have I seen one where it can't be used the first chance it gets. Like a even night but can't use it N2 etc.

Is it brazen enough to fake claim as scum thinking we'll let you hang around till N3 to prove the role? I don't know. And even if you're telling the truth about being a Town Novice Odd Night Vig, you still can't prove your role till N3.

VOTE: enchant

Let's back off t3. Maybe there's a way to figure that out before night 3... As for flippy. If you'd like I'm willing to vote out either enchant or dess.

I flip flopped my vote quite a bit early day phase then PARKED it in enchant. Did I discuss other options? Yep. Did I move my vote? Ever? Nope.

[Tchill13]

VoteCount 1.6

Enchant [ 6 ]

Doctor Drew, Tchill13, T3, Kop, Malakittens, redff

Dessew [ 3 ]

Mitillos, Dr Easy Bake, Bristep123

Mitillos [ 2 ]

Dessew, Enchant

T3 [ 1 ]

DeasVail

Not Voting [ 1 ]

Emperor flippyNips

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-04-03 16:47:31)

Not only were me and drew both on the enchant slot we were both THE FIRST TWO. I AM NOT SCUM WITH DREW AND ENCHANT.

[Tchill13]

T3, kop, Mala,and red followed with the most reasoning being "to avoid a no elimination."

Meanwhile bristep was in dess the entire time. The only possible counter wagon of the day.

[DeasVail]

My thought was actually that it was bristep that was scum and so it's interesting that T3 has the opposite opinion.

When I have a bit more time I'm going to sit down and go over everything to clarify my read and then explain it.

[Tchill13]

Wait... If we no vote and just have t3 shoot bristep we win right? Or we vote and t3 doesn't shoot.

I don't think masons a role cop and a vig is balanced at all btw. I am throwing that out there.

[Tchill13]

Wait a second scum has to have a vest or something correct? Cus if they can't be killed by the vig. And we vote out town. T3 shoots scum but the vest stops it. Scum night kill and win.

If the scum do not have a vest it's just a win for town right? Vote out town. Vig and scum kill each other. One Town left remaining.

[DeasVail]

yeah that's the reason for my caution. I feel like there is too much town power and so a bulletproof mafia would make... a bit of sense and why I don't want to just eliminate whoever.

Mafia doctor (or similar) also seems possible to me and obviously would suit us a lot better, but I don't want to rely on it.

[bristep123]

Wait... If we no vote and just have t3 shoot bristep we win right? Or we vote and t3 doesn't shoot.

I don't think masons a role cop and a vig is balanced at all btw. I am throwing that out there.

Wait a second scum has to have a vest or something correct? Cus if they can't be killed by the vig. And we vote out town. T3 shoots scum but the vest stops it. Scum night kill and win.

If the scum do not have a vest it's just a win for town right? Vote out town. Vig and scum kill each other. One Town left remaining.

Yeah, you’ve definitely got a vest.

DV I don’t know what I can do/say to sway you but honestly Drew and I together makes no sense. The mechanics talk from Chill is meaningless, he did the same yesterday around the claim/counter claim and it just serves to distract. I’m convinced by his behaviour that he’s vested, so scum wins if you elim me.

Tchill elimination = town win.

[Tchill13]

I think t3 is scum.

[Tchill13]

Opened with a vote today for little to no reason. Makes zero sense to do as town before letting everyone talk.

[Tchill13]

And be sure to take this with a grain of salt as deasvail has not said Bristep is definitely town.

[DeasVail]

Believe me I did triple check to make sure there couldn't be a serial killer

[bristep123]

DV - Tchill’s talk of no elim at night gives him a chance to kill T3 leaving you and him to vote me off giving the scum the win. T3 shooting me at night would give him the win regardless. It’s all just speculation to obfuscate. If he’s certain I’m scum why would he suggest no elim? Trying to throw out ways to mechanic a win doesn’t serve town, voting scum serves town.

I know you’ve had me read as scum since d2, when you and red fingered me and Drew limped in third I called that out immediately, I then immediatelty voted him d3 and pushed him when Tchill was disracting with mechanic speculation. Genuinely i can’t see how anyone can put he and I together.

[Tchill13]

It doesn't make sense that t3 is still around... Please give me time to make my case on t3 tonight.

[Tchill13]

Bristep is reading as super genuine. And I understand where they're coming from.

[bristep123]

If T3 was scum then what mafia role allows for a second night kill? Genuinely I’m not down for a T3 elimination unless there is a role I’m not aware of and one hell of a smoking gun.

[Tchill13]

I'm... Not sure bristep. That's why I asked for time to check lol.

[Tchill13]

Explain why he'd be left alive after a vig claim day 1???

[Tchill13]

There is a smoking gun. But like I said work and all. I'll post more tonight.

[Tchill13]

OK can someone else read the roles for me and confirm scum have no capable way of getting an extra night kill? What the hell.