Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

[Flavor Leaf]

im just jabbin' to jab back. If you talked to me in person, it would make more sense tone wise probs, most of my stuff is just playful verbal back and forths.

I rarely ever am actually harshing down on people.

[ActionDan]

And ofc special mention to my partner for clutching it out!

[ActionDan]

Am happy to release scum qt without objection

[Aisa]

ActionDan is a legend. Can't praise high enough at how good his scum play was.

Like, I came into this game seeing he was scum, and he worked the game, and got me to not only ease off of that scum read, but move me off of his partner Feysal, and we all faded Abnegation.

All while creating a permanent riff between Furt and Flavor.

Like, I knew it wasn't as strong as the game made it feel it was, but that's the strength of what ActionDan did.

That's just the stuff that was directly tied to me too.

I was a bit checked out of following along on Day 3 but this makes me want to go back to look at it to understand what happened!

when i learnt about love i instantly assumed it's scummy doing

This is still the out-of-context quote of the game for me

[Flavor Leaf]

Ggwp!

Thanks all and especially GIF for being a good sport and gracious at the end.

Fun game, probably balanced but by nature of the roles very swingy any faction could be sunk quickly by nature of the roles. Imagine the chaos that could happen 2 kills a night and actual cop results flying around

Pedit: wow boonskies you're making me blush

Just speaking the truth. a lot of people don't look at the little things like that.

was the worst feeling to feel confident with scum you, only to let you slip away from me, and get guiltied. Like it was not a happy guilty for me.

I think I became super obv town, though, so that's at least something for me this game

[Flavor Leaf]

I legit asked Keeper in our PT if they were scum, and was gonna help them get Green I think I was a good kill, I probably never would have ended up going Keeper even while saying I think they were scum at times.

[Aisa]

And ofc special mention to my partner for clutching it out!

Yeah I thought Feysal did pretty well, too! I never said this in the spec PT but I remember townreading them and fangirling over their mech posts at one point

There was

Spoiler: Night Actions spoiler

a surprising amount of holstering this game, and it's funny that it balanced out at exactly one kill per night

[Feysal]

So, redactions are still a thing? I'm fine with our PT being released as is. In fact, I intended some of it to be read by town all along.

My biggest question is, what happened on night 3? Hugir claimed they redirected from ActionDan to Furtive, ActionDan deflected actions from me to IceDragon, and I tried to kill Furtive. How did I fail? I said in the PT there would be rules lawyering post-game, and now is the time.

My real role name was Sedition by the way. It sounded too malicious so I changed it. Everything else about it was true though.

Our actions, if anyone is interested:

Night 1:
Feysal uses Benediction cop/poison doctor on the Keeper.
Feysal kills Hell Froze Over.
Feysal gives flyer to the Keeper.
ActionDan deflects from Feysal to Aisa.
We were trying to outguess Benediction, and thought they would investigate the Keeper based on what Rautherdir had said. We tried to cancel that investigation by picking the same target. It did not work, but it became a source of confusion for the rest of the game.

Night 2:
Feysal kills Aisa.
Feysal gives flyer to Abnegation.
ActionDan deflects from Feysal to IceDragon70.
Yes, Aisa was the intended target. We both believed Abnegation was Benediction after this night. I don't think either of us ever intentionally pushed for a town execution, not until the last day.

Night 3:
Feysal kills furtiveglance.
Feysal gives flyer to Hugir.
Feysal uses Benediction cop/poison doctor on Flavor Leaf.
ActionDan deflects from Feysal to IceDragon70.
This night was all kinds of confusing. I still don't understand how what happened, happened. We also did not actually know Hugir was scum yet. I thought it could be Flavor Leaf, but ActionDan bluffed that we had investigated Hugir instead. I did not actually know it was Hugir until they mentioned the poison.

Night 4:
Feysal gives flyer to Flavor Leaf.
I was getting desperate here. I was almost certain Hugir knew my identity and could hijack my kill, so I did not even try. I was not even worried about my own survival, I needed at least three town to survive and could not let Hugir use my kill against the town.

Night 5:
Feysal kills Flavor Leaf.
Feysal gives flyer to furtiveglance.
On the second last day, I absolutely needed Hugir gone. If anyone else was executed, it would doom both town and me. I considered claiming scum and voting for draw to avoid losing to Benediction. I was hours away from doing that when Hugir was hammered, and the rest is history.

[ActionDan]

Hugir robbed us of 2 kills TT.

Imagine a keeper, FL, Hugir, AD, Feysal D4

[Feysal]

Congratulations to Malediction! I think it was well deserved. Thinking back on the game, it always felt like they were a little step ahead of town.

When you see our PT, you may change your mind about this. There were times when we were just as lost as town. At one point, I had a crazy theory of you being Benediction too, based on some weird role mechanics, which we quickly learned was incorrect.

I think this game was scum-sided. In our PT, after I realized just how much power we had, I said it felt like our main enemy was Benediction, while the town was an afterthought. That was part of why I would have preferred a draw or town win, rather than losing to Benediction.

[Feysal]

Yeah I thought Feysal did pretty well, too! I never said this in the spec PT but I remember townreading them and fangirling over their mech posts at one point

I'm honestly surprised by this. Historically, my scum games have ranged from mediocre to downright bad. I think what helped me was that this was my first game in years, and even a scum role could not kill my enthusiasm. Also, this was multiball, so for the first two days I could play as town. It was only on day three when I had to start making up excuses to suspect people of being Malediction, and people did notice how my heart was not in it. I'm not sure what I would have done as town from then on, but it would have been fair to expect something more.

[ActionDan]

Feysal meta:

Faraday

[Feysal]

Feysal meta:

Faraday

There may be some truth to this still. However, I've also been inactive in town games, even good ones where I had a major role in winning them. Now, if I play any more games, I don't know how my current meta will shape up to be.

Somehow I got through this game without being prodded once. I'm not certain, but that might also be a first for me.

[Aisa]

Congratulations to Malediction! I think it was well deserved. Thinking back on the game, it always felt like they were a little step ahead of town.

When you see our PT, you may change your mind about this. There were times when we were just as lost as town. At one point, I had a crazy theory of you being Benediction too, based on some weird role mechanics, which we quickly learned was incorrect.

I think this game was scum-sided. In our PT, after I realized just how much power we had, I said it felt like our main enemy was Benediction, while the town was an afterthought. That was part of why I would have preferred a draw or town win, rather than losing to Benediction.

Yeah I thought Feysal did pretty well, too! I never said this in the spec PT but I remember townreading them and fangirling over their mech posts at one point

I'm honestly surprised by this. Historically, my scum games have ranged from mediocre to downright bad. I think what helped me was that this was my first game in years, and even a scum role could not kill my enthusiasm. Also, this was multiball, so for the first two days I could play as town. It was only on day three when I had to start making up excuses to suspect people of being Malediction, and people did notice how my heart was not in it. I'm not sure what I would have done as town from then on, but it would have been fair to expect something more.

Right, I can see how hunting for Benediction might have helped you channel your town play into the game, and this was a really chaotic game for sure. Still found myself agreeing with some of the things you said as I watched on from the dead thread, and you still presented yourself in a way that avoided suspicion for the most part and avoided getting you limmed.

[Rautherdir]

It was a really close game for everyone. Would have been a lot more chaotic I think if I had actually played properly and survived day 1. Gg malediction

[Rautherdir]

I don't have anything in Benediction's... rather short vacuum that I'd redact.

[Abnegation]

yeah, close game. gg everyone and thanks for modding narration!

[Rautherdir]

Also yeah, good job GIF/Hugir for making it as far as you did without me. If Furtive had actually claimed one-way loverizer or you'd hit them instead....

[Abnegation]

@Abnegation - WE HAD IT WITH FEYSAL.

WE HAD IT.
but yeah, scum played well to get me executed there.

[Abnegation]

i see spec chat's not released yet - no redactions there from me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m missing a 15p Large Theme if anyone’s interested. Cheesy pirate theme.

2 slots left to fill.

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[Flavor Leaf]

Modding

[GuyInFreezer]

I have nothing to redact.
I want to be humiliated on just how wrong I was 90% of the time lmao

[GuyInFreezer]

Also ngl had I kept playing safe I prob would’ve had better chances.

But Y O L O

[Rautherdir]

Also ngl had I kept playing safe I prob would’ve had better chances.

But Y O L O

I mean to be fair I also decided to play to my town meta for some unknowable reason.