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[Umlaut]

VOTE: NK15

[chad thunder]

I don't know how to justify it but this post put Bub at hard town for me.

Could you please try to justify it because I don't see it?

[Umlaut]

I guess the short version is "being insistent on a case that they're being told is bad" which I consider to indicate that they actually care about casing and eliminating Andante specifically, whereas scum wouldn't be picky enough to bother. A lot of it is gut feeling based on the wording and tone, and if you read it differently I don't know how to transfer that feeling to you.

[chad thunder]

My lover is Not Known 15.

I'm not really sold on them being scum, I feel like zero-posting is NAI and they haven't really given manipulative vibes to me yet. Like I said earlier, the little they said in our private topic indicated to me that they don't care to try and manipulate my reads. Not really doing anything to try and pocket me either, unless you count voting with me I guess.

[chad thunder]

I guess the short version is "being insistent on a case that they're being told is bad" which I consider to indicate that they actually care about casing and eliminating Andante specifically, whereas scum wouldn't be picky enough to bother. A lot of it is gut feeling based on the wording and tone, and if you read it differently I don't know how to transfer that feeling to you.

Ya that's fair actually. Hmm.

[chad thunder]

I need to scrounge up some more brain cells, be back tomorrow!

[Umlaut]

Lover reference

Vanderscamp Bub Bidderskins
Enchant biancospino
Umlaut Andante
Not Known 15 chad thunder

[Not Known 15]

Kind of agree with Andante's solve, tbh. (Incidentally, since we're close to end of day I'm going to come out and say I'm Andante's lover. Would appreciate others following suit, though really we only need one more to know the full set.)

NK15, with all due respect, I don't think you understand the case against Andante or the setup of this game. The case isn't about Andante townreading their lover...or even so much them making it public. It's about trying to yoink control of the game at the start:

vander also lean town. bam! leaves scum in 4 people. I'm too good

This kind of overconfidence based on totally unverifiable info leads me to think that Andante is trying to guide the town down a certain path.

Plus, you have pivoted from voting your lover when you realized they were your lover.

You understand the setup right? I knew who my lover was from the jump.

I don't know how to justify it but this post put Bub at hard town for me.

That doesn't really make sense(for reference, I thought there was a momentary memory lapse when Bub forgot who the partner was, but yeah....)
This does apply for scum too(they know their lover) so no this is just NAI.

[Not Known 15]

And the Andante thing is just... easy to come at? I mean... could scum write it like that? Is it likely? Both yes! What if Andante is part of a town town pair? Scum needs to get one of these eliminated, and an obvtown townpair is the end for them. Scum has a very high interest in not letting early correct ideas become entrenched.

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: Andante

this makes me laugh cause just last night I told my lover I don’t think I wanna vote out you/bub

why thou. If you're town and actually confident about your lover, you're essentially saying you've solved the game already. Wrongly may I add, I'm also confident about my lover's towniness you see.

Why can't you both be right?

Andante's unwillingness to vote Bub suggests she has a solve of she/her lover & Bub/Vander town. Which I think is wrong.

Also, why are you confident?

I don't want to, and in fact I have reasons not to, make the whole thread privy of what's happened in our Lovers' PT so far,

Really?

Because I can't think of any reasons that outweigh us being able to get such a confident read on your partner.

[Vanderscamp]

so I'm wrong in thinking my lover is town, and you're not wrong for thinking your lover is town? what kind of logic is this??

The kind of logic you get when you misread what I've written.

You don't want to vote Bub. So you must think that B/V is likely t/t. You also think you are in a t/t pair. And you see, there are only two t/t pairs, so my belief to be in one myself is incompatible with that.

If you're town there is a clear way in which we can both be right about our lovers, and in that world you should be accepting of a Bub vote

The problem with this is that even if we assume that all of these townreads are all correct AND you're town in the first place, you're doing nothing to try to convince Andante that that's the case.

Why do you think "my unnamed chat partner has given me, an unconfirmed, a reason to think they're town" should be enough reason to make Andante want to flip their read and vote Bub?

[Vanderscamp]

Kind of agree with Andante's solve, tbh. (Incidentally, since we're close to end of day I'm going to come out and say I'm Andante's lover. Would appreciate others following suit, though really we only need one more to know the full set.)

NK15, with all due respect, I don't think you understand the case against Andante or the setup of this game. The case isn't about Andante townreading their lover...or even so much them making it public. It's about trying to yoink control of the game at the start:

vander also lean town. bam! leaves scum in 4 people. I'm too good

This kind of overconfidence based on totally unverifiable info leads me to think that Andante is trying to guide the town down a certain path.

Plus, you have pivoted from voting your lover when you realized they were your lover.

You understand the setup right? I knew who my lover was from the jump.

I don't know how to justify it but this post put Bub at hard town for me.

Strange

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: Bianco

Pretty easy pair to eliminate today imo

[Vanderscamp]

Not remotely confident but no townreads from either side

[Firebringer]

Official Vote Count 1.06

With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Andante

(2): Bub Bidderskins, biancospino

Bub Bidderskins

(2): chad thunder, Not Known 15

Not Known 15

(1): Umlaut

biancospino

(2): Andante, Vanderscamp

Not Voting

(1): Enchant

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-04-18 21:20:41)

Mod notes:

• If you see any mistakes in the VC, please pm or @mod me in bold.

• Grandpa the mod is V/LA from the 16th-18th of April so you are suck with me.

• Enchant is being prodded.

[Enchant]

You townread everyone else?

[Vanderscamp]

No, but I townread myself, Chad, and (I think) Andante

[Not Known 15]

No, but I townread myself, Chad, and (I think) Andante

Why do you townread Chad?

[Umlaut]

I'm good with Bianco, agree the couple has more joint scum equity than Chad/NK.

VOTE: bianco

[Bub Bidderskins]

I don't really understand the case against bianco. It seems like people are just throwing them out there because they haven't posted much?

[biancospino]

Really?

Because I can't think of any reasons that outweigh us being able to get such a confident read on your partner.

I see you lack imagination. That's ok.

[biancospino]

Enchant agrees that I may sing, so.

Didn't you find strange how I've parked my vote on Andante, unvoting Bub in the process, and proceeded to nag her to vote Bub? Nobody would put Bub at E-1 in an Andante game! Enchant came to me with a proposition to move my vote so that maybe someone would compensate and put Bub back at E-2, so we could do an extended quickhammer.

Anyway, jig's up, VOTE: Bub

[biancospino]

*in an Enchant game

[Enchant]

VOTE: Bub

Hey Andante not too late.

[Andante]

VOTE: Bub

Hey Andante not too late.

You really TR your lover though?