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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:34 pm

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For that you'll have to take it up with her.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:43 pm

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In post 950, Thestatusquo wrote: For that you'll have to take it up with her.
Would rather not interact with her again.

But, to be more lighthearted, Norwee really was solid as hell in this game, and it wasn't always pretty but town coalesced when it needed to.....even you Dessew lol.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:45 pm

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In post 946, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 945, Korina wrote:
In post 939, McMenno wrote: it had approximately 0 impact on the game result
It’s almost like my partner died d1 for not doing anything and rng ended up playing into my favor and let me kill norwee anyways. Wild how rng works.
Just curious why you claimed to not have lost the flour. That was the main thing we couldn't figure out.
Because I wasn't expecting for there to be effectively a doctor, vigilante, and tracker in the game?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:46 pm

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I'm not sure how those things are related
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:49 pm

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Uh. Let me see if I can explain this even more simply:

I was not expecting anyone to have tracked me that night. I was not expecting there to be more than 3 powerroles in general, and with the mafia NK being "you redistribute items to other players" what does that make it look like when I suddenly lose an item? I got targeted by the mafia NK. Why would the mafia target me, a player who is arguably extremely scummy? To try to keep them alive longer. That's why.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:51 pm

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From our perspective I don't think losing the flour made you look any more suspicious. We thought it was way more suspicious that you were stubbornly refusing to admit to having lost it despite it being pretty obvious that you had.

We believed it happened and we couldn't think of a good reason why you would lie about it as town.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:01 pm

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Norwee played amazingly here, I'm so proud!

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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:10 pm

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In post 955, Thestatusquo wrote: From our perspective I don't think losing the flour made you look any more suspicious. We thought it was way more suspicious that you were stubbornly refusing to admit to having lost it despite it being pretty obvious that you had.

We believed it happened and we couldn't think of a good reason why you would lie about it as town.
That was key right there, no need to lie about it if you were town
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:13 pm

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fwiw we as a team agreed that this setup seems EXTREMELY rough for scum.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:14 pm

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We basically felt like we could hard clear a whole bunch of people from the bianco wagon too.

We felt that bussing was SO negative EV for scum in this setup that basically anyone who was a driving force of that wagon was hard cleared for us.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:23 pm

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Yeah that’s like the entire thing too: Bianco dying really fucked up everything. Like there was no counterplay against it, especially in a situation where bussing is strictly losing for me.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:24 pm

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I also literally didn’t ask my team for help because once Bianco died, that was it. It became effectively impossible for me to win.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:26 pm

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Like nothing this game went my way and by the time Bianco died I was done, but didn’t wanna rep out/forfeit, because Dessew was supposed to be the d1 mislim and we shoot Aureal that night but uh. Y’know. Bianco flipped.
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:37 pm

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Wait what, why would anyone want to shoot
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With this game's mechanics I don't think you'd have even been able to succeed if you'd tried. Dessew actually snagged one of my necessary ingredients so I was pretty safe. So yeah, really absolutely nothing went your way. :dead:
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:42 pm

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Repping out because you felt you couldn’t win?
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:47 pm

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In post 963, Aureal wrote: Wait what, why would anyone want to shoot
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With this game's mechanics I don't think you'd have even been able to succeed if you'd tried. Dessew actually snagged one of my necessary ingredients so I was pretty safe. So yeah, really absolutely nothing went your way. :dead:
And once again - random chance like that should’ve been announced before the signups.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:29 am

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Another player doing something that affects your attempt isn't random chance though, any more than being roleblocked or having your kill doc'd is random chance.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:49 am

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Yea but in the case of that, it’s simply you hit them, and you can reasonably play around their targets.

This is different in the sense that even if I pick the right target, there is still a chance they’re bulletproof outside of what I can do because I lack everything to kill them, or pick something wrong to give people.

Not to mention, even if I hit the same target as Drew/Dessew, both of them are functionally doctors, just Drew is effectively a modified CPR doctor.

I just. There’s a lot that frustrates me about this game that I’ve said before and I’m stopping now. It benefits nobody.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:17 am

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In post 964, Pink Ball wrote: Repping out because you felt you couldn’t win?
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:10 am

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Because I wasn’t having fun. Bianco dying d1 really cemented the “I’m not having fun” part but it really started the second I got a red pm
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:11 am

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Well, specifically red pm with atypical NK. Red pm on its own is fine imo.
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