Mafia 2301: Angels and Demons (Game Over)

[mykonian]

Let me dare to throw those gates open,
That other men go creeping by!
Now’s the time, to prove through action
Man’s dignity may rise divinely high

Rules:

1) Be nice. To me and to your fellow players.
2) Blue is my color. Please don't use it.
3) You know how to vote. Do it bolded or with vote tags.
4) You know how an elimination works. When the majority of the votes is on a person, they get eliminated.
5) A day phase takes 14 days, night phase 2.
6) If you don't get a majority before the deadline, that's just too bad.
7) Please do not break the game by artificial means, that's no fun for anyone.
8) This is a bastard game. I may break some rules about what a normal game of mafia is. You cannot, unless your role PM says differently.

You are a

vanilla townie

.

You win with the town when all the threats to the town are eliminated.

Alive (5)

GrandpaMo
Doctor Drew
imaginality
Greeting
Whemestar

Dead (6)

Cat Scratch Fever, the

mime

, was eliminated day 1
demona, the

town doctor

, was killed night 1
Phir, the

Vanilla Townie

, was killed night 2
Meuh, the

Mafia Demon

, was killed night 2
biancospino the

Vanilla Townie

, was eliminated day 3
Enchant

who replaced Frozen Angel

, the

Mafia Goon

, was eliminated day 4

[mykonian]

"I’d rather like the crowd to enjoy it,
Since they live and let live, truly.
The stage is set, the boards complete,
And they await our festivity."

Day 1 has started!

Deadline is 2 weeks from now.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Granpa

Howdy!

[biancospino]

VOTE: Doc

Found the Cult Leader

[demona]

hmhmhm

so,

what do we think the bastard elements may be?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: demona

Real vote btw.

[demona]

VOTE: demona

Real vote btw.

yea? and why do you think that's scummy?

speculation is fun for me and i think there's a decent chance the scums have more information than i do

also frustrating that every game has to start with this and not just people like, talking to me,

but alas

[demona]

speculation is fun for me and i think there's a decent chance the scums have more information than i do

it's like, yeah maybe i don't really know how to sort between wild speculation and players hiding information or between players simply ignoring the question,

but eh, it certainly doesn't hurt, and once again, it's fun

[demona]

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like why do you think biancospino chose to refer to you as a cult leader?

do you think that is a reference to another game? which seems possible to me but i do not have the information to make that judgment,

or just random? which would be odd to me

or do you think it is because she was influenced by the faust quotes possibly into thinking there may be a cult type of mechanic like 'deal with the devil' type thing?

or something else?

[Doctor Drew]

It is site meta that I always role cult leader in a bastard game, assuming it is a jokey vote since this is, ya know....rvs.

And in a bastard game the mechanics can get all wonky, but as always scum is slightly more informed and would be highly motivated to get out ahead of the town as far as possible in regards to mechanics.

Not too mention doing a bit of rolefishing.

[demona]

It is site meta that I always role cult leader in a bastard game, assuming it is a jokey vote since this is, ya know....rvs.

And in a bastard game the mechanics can get all wonky, but as always scum is slightly more informed and would be highly motivated to get out ahead of the town as far as possible in regards to mechanics.

Not too mention doing a bit of rolefishing.

see, i was unaware of this! but now i know

? yes scums are likely more informed about the mechanics i agree i have played a few bastard games before and moderated others but uh, town also motivated to figure out the mechanics, or at least, this town

<-

is,

shrug

and what would you have me do right now if not speculating about the mechanics? like you seem to think that is anti-town, which i don't really understand, but then so what should i be doing?

[demona]

like i don't really see the benefit of us playing this game like it's not bastard and then just being like

!!! oh i am surprised by this development!!!

and also rvs boring

[Doctor Drew]

Whoever joins the Demona wagon with me will get recruited over night.

[biancospino]

? yes scums are likely more informed about the mechanics i agree i have played a few bastard games before and moderated others but uh, town also motivated to figure out the mechanics, or at least, this town

Mech spec is good and all, but how do you suggest we should go on about figuring the mechs on page 1? There is nothing to go on about, so any guess rn will be either garbage; or informed by one's pm, which we shouldn't incentive to be outed just because

[Cat Scratch Fever]

hello!

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: demona

Real vote btw.

yea? and why do you think that's scummy?

speculation is fun for me and i think there's a decent chance the scums have more information than i do

also frustrating that every game has to start with this and not just people like, talking to me,

but alas

what you want people to talk to you about?

[Frozen Angel]

hello!

Hello!

[demona]

Whoever joins the Demona wagon with me will get recruited over night.

sigh it doesn't feel like you are actually trying to sort me here just feels like a binary 'mech spec is scummy!' but i can't really say towms have never taken a similar approach to me before

it's just frustrating if you're town because like, you can just talk to me ya know, as i said before, as always there are definitely better ways of sorting me than 'demona is a scums!', i am willing to share my thought process regarding anything i post and i am present here and

and instead you just seemingly want to maintain the scumread just to have it, even now encouraging others, without like, sorting me engaging me et cetera

like if you're town here you're simply scumreading my approach to the game, how my brain works and such, the bastard nature of the game engages me, that's a large part of why i signed up, and so forth

and if you're not town you just see something you can plausibly call scummy repeatedly because you are portraying it in like a 'anyone who cares about the mechanics or encourages other to speculate is a scums' way, which isn't true

and i don't really have anyway of determining which of the two it is for you because you're just like, 'she's a scums! wagon wagon!'

[demona]

what you want people to talk to you about?

about my thought process regarding my posts and such, like if someone has a problem with them, because otherwise it just becomes me being pushed and then the person pushing saying i am 'overly defensive' or something like that because i do not know how to sort the person pushing other than to continue to engage them and then that is portrayed as me only caring about reads on me and so forth and so on

[imaginality]

Hi all, early heads up I may not be around much this week, and especially this weekend (finishing and returning from an overseas vacation). All systems go after that!


GrandpaMo is locktown because he hasn't posted a dozen pages of nonstop bantering this game.

VOTE: demona I've never been culted before, fun! I don't see any downsides of openly accepting this offer from a self-outed cult leader!

[Frozen Angel]

but you haven't posted any thought process yet

so why would you be angry if people don't start game talking to you about something that doesn't exist yet?

do you usually start games talking about mechanics?

[biancospino]

Whoever joins the Demona wagon with me will get recruited over night.

VOTE: Demona
I'll bring the incense and the sacrificial goat

[demona]

? yes scums are likely more informed about the mechanics i agree i have played a few bastard games before and moderated others but uh, town also motivated to figure out the mechanics, or at least, this town

Mech spec is good and all, but how do you suggest we should go on about figuring the mechs on page 1? There is nothing to go on about, so any guess rn will be either garbage; or informed by one's pm, which we shouldn't incentive to be outed just because

we don't necessarily have to figure it out, i think there's benefit in theorizing and speculating and i think we should give incentive for the possibly informed by one's role pm speculation, because i think the way a player would most likely be informed by their pm is if they are a scums, as i said before, as i do not have information from my pm about what may be bastard about the game

and it's not like we were given nothing to go off of, there are the faust quotes like i said before

Let me dare to throw those gates open,
That other men go creeping by!
Now’s the time, to prove through action
Man’s dignity may rise divinely high

"I’d rather like the crowd to enjoy it,
Since they live and let live, truly.
The stage is set, the boards complete,
And they await our festivity."

could be a potential deal with the devil type thing

and there's the 'battle for your soul' thing from the promotional materials (signup queue post) which could mean any number of things

like in theory actions we took in the game could even determine our alignments i guess though this one seems less likely to me

[demona]

but you haven't posted any thought process yet

so why would you be angry if people don't start game talking to you about something that doesn't exist yet?

do you usually start games talking about mechanics?

because i wasn't asked about it? that's what i meant by 'talk to me' instead of just vote for me, shrug,

i am not angry, i just become frustrated, because i don't know what it is players want from me and it feels like i often get scumread for existing or for being me

and yes, i very often start games talking about mechanics, especially bastard games, but most games really, can provide examples i guess, gimme a second to find

[demona]

somewhat recent-ish bastard games i have played in

i designed this setup in 2019 as andrée
achromatic calamity as anahit
slaughter hour as ulyana
radio buzz as rousseau
silent star royalty as team rocket queen