Micro 1081: Burdened By Secrecy GAME OVER

[Five Hargreeves]

Heard of a 60% hit rate. Seen 40%.

1/3's bad. 1/3's also optimistic. Random chance? Don't do that.

Look. Game's nightless. All vanilla. Nightless Expectation Rule applies.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ation_Rule

1 - 2 * 2 / 5 = 0.2. 20%.

-Five.



Pre-Edit:

Tells me more about you. Not defensive. Or aggressive. Big mistake to think. Always nice, me. All smiles.

-Five.

[Korina]

Ok I'll post later. I don't think this game is in any real risk of ending super quickly. I'm gonna coordinate with LLD later.

[Korina]

I will be high and I am open to interacting with anyone while high. I cannot promise anything of value out of what I say, but it might be helpful to someone ig.

[Five Hargreeves]

Sure. Name one opinion on the past few pages.

-Five.

[Lila Pitts]

Five is kind of a jerk. That's kind of town indicative.

Allison and Vanya need to get in here.

[Five Hargreeves]

Not a jerk. Don't read terse as rude. Easy mistake, maybe. But false.

Got any opinions?

-Five.

[Klaus Hargreeves]

Five is kind of a jerk. That's kind of town indicative.

Allison and Vanya need to get in here.

I don't think personality is necessarily alignment indicative. That's just me though, y'know? I think this post is very non answery non posty sort of nothing ventured nothing gained didn't really say anything. Also are you throwing stones for doing the exact same thing that allison and vanya are doing? i.e. they are absent and you were absent.

[Klaus Hargreeves]

I will be high and I am open to interacting with anyone while high. I cannot promise anything of value out of what I say, but it might be helpful to someone ig.

Have you done a lot of setup speculation? I am not very good at it. what do you think of this setup any ideas on how to break it?

[Korina]

Sure. Name one opinion on the past few pages.

-Five.

i think you're very abrasive thus far and i think your attempt to hide your identity through speech is likely main indicative. i think it more likely is townie at this stage because why would town put pressure on them like themself at this point. i mean, there is other stuff that could be main indicative in the game, but idk how much i'd like to talk about what i think about mains is, because like. there is genuine pressure to make me think otherwise, and the less i say on that, the less you can gleam about that the more likely my main guess would be, especially because i would like to aim for that at least once. if not fall back on town win.

Five is kind of a jerk. That's kind of town indicative.

Allison and Vanya need to get in here.

agreed, this feels +town but it's not hard to feel +town in this case with two people not really doing anything.

I will be high and I am open to interacting with anyone while high. I cannot promise anything of value out of what I say, but it might be helpful to someone ig.

Have you done a lot of setup speculation? I am not very good at it. what do you think of this setup any ideas on how to break it?

ive only really done main speculation. its mountainious vanilla, and a elo situation. like the only advice i would have is my normal scum advice? like a little more finely tuned method of how to play scum in this situation in my eyes, but like, there's no reason to ever tell you. like, why would i tell you, how to play as scum? i know there's the argument of "well it'd help" - yes. it would. but also i think it'd hurt more for a pro-town win condition if i did so.

[Klaus Hargreeves]

ive only really done main speculation. its mountainious vanilla, and a elo situation. like the only advice i would have is my normal scum advice? like a little more finely tuned method of how to play scum in this situation in my eyes, but like, there's no reason to ever tell you. like, why would i tell you, how to play as scum? i know there's the argument of "well it'd help" - yes. it would. but also i think it'd hurt more for a pro-town win condition if i did so.

scum advise is useless to me I suck as scum anyways. Plus I wouldn't comprehend it anyways like I don't comprehend the nightless thing that five was talking about so I just didn't say anything. What do you think of a flash elimination?

@mod do paragons have to be unanimous when deciding who is who with the alts and mains?

[Jingle]

Decisions will be locked in when unanimous. If a choice is not locked in by whatever deadline is given, whether the hammer vote or the the end of the 96 hours, plurality within the Paragon thread will apply.

[Klaus Hargreeves]

That's going to be a huge nevermind on the flash elimination.

[Korina]

paragons got be unanimous. i cant decide to alt shoot on my own since i joined in. lld's gotta agree with me.

i'm also staunchly against a flash wagon rn. i'm thinking there's some good and some bad, but on first instinct i wanna say bad. but lemme think through it.

[Korina]

i thought about it and i still think its bad. too many bad options can result out of it imo.

[Klaus Hargreeves]

i thought about it and i still think its bad. too many bad options can result out of it imo.

since nothing is happening and only about two people are playing this game rn, pray tell.

[Five Hargreeves]

i think you're very abrasive thus far and i think your attempt to hide your identity through speech is likely main indicative. i think it more likely is townie at this stage because why would town put pressure on them like themself at this point. i mean, there is other stuff that could be main indicative in the game, but idk how much i'd like to talk about what i think about mains is, because like. there is genuine pressure to make me think otherwise, and the less i say on that, the less you can gleam about that the more likely my main guess would be, especially because i would like to aim for that at least once. if not fall back on town win.

Suppose I need to get used to being misread. Terse, not abrasive. Don't like to waste words. But sure.

Thing about that. Not hiding my identity through speech. Well, maybe a side effect. Changing how I think. Different thing.

Another thing. Only upside to flash-wagoning? Keeps Paragons from that win. There's a benefit. Say you're aiming there? Tempting. Not that petty, though. Swear I'm nice.

-Five.

[Allison Hargreeves]

Someone summoned the greatest of the Hargreaves?

Ah
Am
HERE.

[Allison Hargreeves]

Good luck, Paragon. Gonna need it.

-Five.

you know we're on the same side, conceivably?

I win one of 3 ways

1) If I assist the townies in eliminating a mafia member here, I win as does town.
2) if town fails to find mafia, the townie becomes a paragon with me and then we try to name the 2 scum. If we do this, town and paragons win.

3) the selfish one, if I identify all 5 of you by alt in one guess, I win alone.

Basically I'm a confirmed town IC who is meant to be here to help you all win and you should trust and work with me, but both alignments need to worry about being too obvious about themselves and getting alt guessed by me.

Of course the fire bird is already burning things...

[Allison Hargreeves]

Klaus needs to be in a hole.

1:4 vs 2:3 - Ive sat around Five often enough to know theres way more to it but the 1 in 4 is way better here.

Also love the sound of ya voice much.

[Jingle]

Prodding Vanya.

[Five Hargreeves]

Klaus needs to be in a hole.

1:4 vs 2:3 - Ive sat around Five often enough to know theres way more to it but the 1 in 4 is way better here.

Also love the sound of ya voice much.

Mm. Forgot you'd know this approach. Sloppy move. Still. Should be fine.

About Klaus. I didn't say a thing. Clean hands.

About you. Read like a book in ten posts. Could be less. Betting on it.

-Five.

[Vanya Hargreeves]

sorry fellas i'm here now

[Vanya Hargreeves]

wait, paragons can post in thread? didn't know that

[Vanya Hargreeves]

huh. i'm going to have to reread the rules. 3 votes is a lim, right? klaus, you might want to remove that RVS vote in case someone quickhammers.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Good luck, Paragon. Gonna need it.

-Five.

you know we're on the same side, conceivably?

I win one of 3 ways

1) If I assist the townies in eliminating a mafia member here, I win as does town.
2) if town fails to find mafia, the townie becomes a paragon with me and then we try to name the 2 scum. If we do this, town and paragons win.

3) the selfish one, if I identify all 5 of you by alt in one guess, I win alone.

Basically I'm a confirmed town IC who is meant to be here to help you all win and you should trust and work with me, but both alignments need to worry about being too obvious about themselves and getting alt guessed by me.

Of course the fire bird is already burning things...

It's in my nature, I can't help it. I heard a rumor you've had similar feelings.