Micro 1082 - I’m the Real Tracker (Day 4)

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Micro 1082 - I’m the Real Tracker (Day 4)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue May 30, 2023 5:08 am

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Micro 1082: I'm the Real Tracker


Current Phase: Day 3
Deadline: (expired on 2023-06-21 21:03:01)


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Fig 1. A Pretender explains why he is a real Tracker


Players

1. Bingle
2. Doctor Drew, replaced JasonWazza,
Town Doctor
, eliminated D3.
3. Invisibility,
Town Tracker
, eliminated N3.
4. Donempire
5. Black, replaced Merlyn
6. Abnegation, replaced Deltabreedy,
Town Investigator
, eliminated N2.
7. Political Clout,
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, eliminated D1.
8. Kowahbunga
9. Appearance,
Town Loyal Checker
, eliminated N1.
Last edited by GuyInFreezer on Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:18 am, edited 8 times in total.
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WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue May 30, 2023 5:13 am

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General Rules:

  1. Site-wide rules always apply here.
  2. If you have a question for me, you can always PM me. If you need to talk to me in thread, please bold your question like this so I can locate it better.
  3. You may not use hidden or encrypted text that are related to contents outside of this game thread for a game-related advantage. I decide if the text is small enough to be count as hidden text. Encrypted text includes any form of posts that are intended to send a message to other player in the game without letting other players learn the meaning of the message.
  4. If you have a power to edit/delete your post, don't do it. If you scumslip, just accept it and embrace the dead PT.
  5. Play nice. Insulting players with using any form of racial/sexual slur or any kind of derogatory languages or excessive harassing in any way will result in immediate force-replacement.
  6. Do not EVER discuss the ongoing games in this thread nor discuss this game elsewhere, no matter how informative it is.
  7. Do not use provable randomization in this game. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tag is not.
  8. This is my color. (#408000) Don't use it.
  9. If I find the certain factors/actions damaging the state of the game, I will intervene and/or take action.
  10. If you break these rules, I have full rights to punish you at my will. This can range from simple warning to modkill/force-replace.
  11. If I feel like it, I always have a full right to add/modify the rules. If I do, I will fully explain the reason behind such action.
  12. Do not test the rule. If you are border-testing the rule, you will be treated as if you are breaking the rule.
  13. Most importantly, have fun! Or else.
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  1. You may ask for clarification or information about roles and mechanics on thread or via PM, case by case. However, all "hypothetical situation" questions must be asked via PM only.
  2. Please refrain from saying things like "mod said" unless necessary. Don't drag me into this game.
  3. When using the information I provided, do not quote it word-by-word. Paraphrase it.

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  1. You can vote by either using bold tag(
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  2. Unvote is not required to change your vote. Also, if it looks like a vote for someone, I will count it. No tricking me!
  3. A player is eliminated and sent to the dead PT when the majority votes the same player. Once the player is eliminated, the target and the rest may talk until I get back and post the flip.
  4. If the deadline is reached before someone is eliminated, the day will end without elimination, unless mentioned otherwise.
  5. If you're eliminated during the night phase, you may post one information-less "bah" post on the following day.
  6. If the game reaches endgame and I'm not around yet to resolve it, dead players may not post until I finish resolving the endgame.

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  1. Deadline for each day is [number of alive players, min 5] days. Deadline for each night is [number of alive mafia] days.
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  3. If you don't post here for 36 real hours, I will prod you. Failure to receive prod within 24 hours or receiving a 3rd prod will cause force-replacement.
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  5. If I have to extend the deadline, I will. If I do, I will post it on thread.
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The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
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WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue May 30, 2023 5:17 am

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Setup


I‘m the Real Tracker


7 Town

2 Mafia


Roles are randomly assigned from the following list:

1 Doctor
2 Pretenders
1 Roleblocker
1 Tracker
2 Seeking Neighbors
1 Loyal Checker
1 Inspector

Pretenders will be given a role PM of any non-pretender roles instead of their actual roles, and will be able to submit actions. However, the results they get will be fake and their actions will not actually resolve. Pretenders will be flipped as Pretenders upon being eliminated or killed. There can only be at most 1 mafia Pretender.

Investigative results for pretenders will be randomized, but will always get a legal result.
Mafia will gain multitasking upon being the only one left


Sample Role PM


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Town Seeking NeighborYou are a
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During the night, you may target a player.
If your target is a Seeking Neighbor, you and your target will get a Private Topic for you to post in.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Town DoctorYou are a
Town Doctor
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During the night, you may target a player and protect them from a nightkill.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Town TrackerYou are a
Town Tracker
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During the night, you may target a player and track them.
You will learn who your target visited during the night.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Town InspectorYou are a
Town Inspector
.

During the night, you may target a player.
You will learn if anyone else targeted that player that night.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Town Loyal CheckerYou are a
Town Loyal Checker
.

During the night, you may target a player.
You will be informed that your action succeeded.
Your action will fail when targeting a player with an alignment that is different from yours.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Town RoleblockerYou are a
Town Roleblocker
.

During the night, you may target a player.
Your target's action will fail.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Town PretenderYou are a
Town Pretender
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You will get a fake role PM of a random non-Pretender role. Your visit will resolve, but your fake action will not.
If you get a fake investigative role, you will get a randomized legal result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Mafia Win Condition:
You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
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The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt

"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue May 30, 2023 5:35 am

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Role PMs are out. Please confirm by replying me your alignment and role.
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WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:17 am

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People have confirmed! Day 1 begins!


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Fig 2. The Seeking Neighbor has no idea what he's doing.


VC 1.00
Not Voting:
Bingle, JasonWazza, Invisibility, Donempire, Merlyn, Deltabreedy, Political Clout, Kowahbunga, Appearance


With
9
alive,
5
votes to Eliminate


Deadline:
(expired on 2023-06-09 16:17:41)
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The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
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"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:29 am

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@Jason:

Are you happy or sad at the State of Origin result today?
Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:30 am

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VOTE: Donempire fake tracker
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:42 am

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In post 5, Deltabreedy wrote: @Jason:

Are you happy or sad at the State of Origin result today?
Hadn't been keeping up but *quick google search* yeah Queensland winning is fine by me

I'm Victorian, so it's not like I have a major dog in that race.

VOTE: DeltaBreedy

For assuming i would even care about state of origin.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:49 am

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VOTE: Jason

For not caring about State of Origin.

(Fair enough though)
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:55 am

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Are you telling me this whole time I should have been reading Jasons posts in an Australian accent?!

VOTE: Appearance cause why not
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:02 am

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I mean if it makes me sound more town go for it.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:04 am

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VOTE: Donempire

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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:05 am

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In post 10, JasonWazza wrote: I mean if it makes me sound more town go for it.
It kind of does???
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:11 am

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Well then G'Day little lady, i think we ought to lead this town to a good place, so i suggest that after each night that passes it might be worthwhile to claim the person we targeted to the entire town, so that we are able to have our information gatherers gather more useful information.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:14 am

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VOTE: bingle for being number !! I'm jealous.
Ya basic!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:58 am

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In post 13, JasonWazza wrote: Well then G'Day little lady, i think we ought to lead this town to a good place, so i suggest that after each night that passes it might be worthwhile to claim the person we targeted to the entire town, so that we are able to have our information gatherers gather more useful information.
this sounds like a good idea
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:00 am

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anyways, VOTE: invisibility cause why not
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 12:37 pm

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Here is the way i imagine D2 starting as a whole with what i am saying just FYI.

Every player claims their night target.
Once this has completed, every player can also claim whether the night targets make sense to them (Allows for Tracker/Inspector/Loyal Checker to give their info, while protected by pretenders/People claiming Roleblocked with no visits on them.)

Examples as follows;

X is a doctor, they attempted to protect Y
Y was killed at night, no one claims to visit X at night, therefore X claims that they believe there is False information. if someone claims to have visited X, then they claim that they believe they have true information.
Y wasn't killed at night, X will claim that they believe there is true information.

X is a Tracker, They visited Y and got that they visited Z
Y claims to have visited X at night, therefore X claims that they believe there is False information.
Y claims to have visited Z at night, therefore X claims that they believe there is True information.

X is a Loyal Checker, they checked Y at night
For a failure, If no one visited X at night, they claim False information, If someone visited X at night, they claim they have true information.
For a completion of the action, if someone visited X at night, they claim False information, If someone didn't visit X at night, the claim True information.

X is an Inspector, they checked Y at night.
For a positive, if no one claims to have visited Y at night, they claim False information, if someone claims to visit Y at night, they claim True information
For a negative, if no one claims to have visited Y at night, they claim True information, if someone claims to visit Y at night, they claim False information.

The rest can claim randomly.

Note that the above allows truthful claims from Tracker/Loyal Checker/Inspector that the scum can't cleanly identify before a flip, and post a flip, town can have truthful information as to who the PR has visited, and their result.

The random and Pretender claims also cleanly hide each of these PR's fairly well.

Note: i don't think this really breaks the setup all that much, it just hinders scum from lying in their claims.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 7, JasonWazza wrote: I'm Victorian, so it's not like I have a major dog in that race.
You come from the 19th century?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 1:19 pm

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I'm a seeking neighbor. No other seeking neighbor should claim, but if you're a seeking neighbor, you can target me. If I get no neighborhood, I will be taking this as confirmation that I'm a faker.

I will be randomly targeting a player who is not me. This is the extent of the mechanical discussion we need D1.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 1:24 pm

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UNVOTE: DeltaBreedy
VOTE: Bingle

Honestly seems like a fairly scummy way to claim that if i'm being honest.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 1:44 pm

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I think Bingle's claim could literally break open the game if we just end the day now and assume everyone who is anyone is smart enough to do what needs to be done from here and come back on D2 with the potential of a ton of information to use.

VOTE: no lim
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 1:47 pm

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Kowah, you realize there is no alignment tied to roles right?

And that seeking neighbors can be a S/T pairing?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 2:38 pm

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Hmm, I see. They could even both be scum, I suppose.

I still think day should end with no lim. Come back on D2 and discuss. I also strongly feel like a massclaim today would be fun.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 2:53 pm

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I mean I think we should just policy lim Bingle, because Seeking neighbor's shouldn't be top priority on anything, over getting useful information out of our information roles, and having them to be able to claim that information (which is now impossible, if we keep bingle alive, as claiming targets no longer works.)

Seeking neighbor's should have basically been treated as named Roles.
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