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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:10 am

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Insomnia again
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:11 am

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I mean Shea claimed scum with VP D1 in hopes that it proves they are not team.

It's like child play. And you somehow forced me to hammer Dunn.
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:12 am

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It's a compliment, honestly, that I think you're capable of putting together such a good claim as fake.

I have been reading you town, and I definitely have noticed that Enchant suddenly woke up to play, but it's only to scum's benefit to rush.

Hellbooks, have you ever played with Enchant before? Ive never seen them in LiLo, I don't know if this is typical behavior or not
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:12 am

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lmao wait SHEA forced you to hammer?
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:15 am

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By you i mean everyone.
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:17 am

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Also, what these arguments.

I should just lie here like bum and wait execution?
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:17 am

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... wait actually why i would't do that.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:25 am

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honestly im really torn
lets see...

1. mech arguments.

(+shea) i'll fully believe shea is rolecop based on crumbing... i think bp+jk+rc<->sm is fairly townsided, bp+jk<->rc is a little scumsided. garlic bread claimed ausuka's mod meta is townsided setups which i guess doesnt hold much weight with me bc ive never played in an ausuka game and also expect mods to want to break their setup metas for obvious reasons
(+enchant) would scum really want to save their strongman for later? this doesnt make a ton of sense to me. and isn't the setup a little too townsided?
(+shea) but also if shea's claim is real that means that scum got hit with a lot of "worst case scenarios" here and still it came to a 50-50 so i guess it doesnt seem that unbalanced when played out

2. partners with baltar?

(+shea) baltar takes a null stance towards xof and generally avoids wanting to rock the boat with their slot in any meaningful way, i guess could be expecting xof to deepwolf
(+enchant) i think xof has a townier D2 regarding baltar -- in particular i think xof as scum would be informed enough to make a move that benefits their position. also agree there is some D1 partner equity between baltar and shea, light distancing and bussing
(+???) but also maybe xof staying off the baltar wagon is actually kind of a scummy thing to do? idk it feels too "surface level" of a scum action to actually come from scum

3. wifom argument

(+shea) i really think in this position shea should feel confident that he can win a 1v1 with me, so literally why do you ever pick enchant or try and fake guilty in the first place?
(+enchant) maybe the reason shea picked enchant is because im more of a loose cannon with wifom and ate and things like that, or that it would be too unlikely for me to play this recklessly as a mafia PR? also shea did bring up the wifom argument himself so if he was scum it clearly already factored into his calculus

on point 1, i favor shea town like 70-30
on point 2, i favor enchant town maybe like 60-40
on point 3, i favor shea town like 55-45

but 2 is kind of the biggest dayplay oriented point which makes me want to put more weight to it

additional thoughts

(+shea) i think garlic bread shea kerfuffle felt tvt to me...
(+shea) also not believing a real guilty would feel sooo freaking bad
(+enchant) but on the other hand id much rather lose to xof scum than shea scum. and also have a slight desire to believe the voices of the deceased on xof being locktown even minus the claim information. so lets say these last two points cancel each other out.

i dont really know much about either of shea's or enchant's playstyles or scumranges or anything like that. ultimately my intention is still to vote enchant here. cherish this post, for i will never make another one as serious ever again.

absolutions re: voting enchant if shea is scum

(+selflove) even if we lose i will sleep comfortably knowing that garlic bread made like a bunch of bad decisions and isnt allowed to get mad at me for playing elo wrong or post something like "if i had been alive i would have made the right call 100% of the time and thats why scum killed me"
(+baltar) id happily lose to scum baltar a million and one times
(+merlyn) jumping hand in hand with merlyn into the void in what is ultimately a losing effort would also be fun and feel poetically correct
(+finances) i saved myself 7 million dollars
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:27 am

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In post 2063, Thestatusquo wrote: No idea. I'm not great with mech stuff like this. I can think of a some reasons why it would make sense to save it if you want but ultimately I'm not really sure what the right play for scum would be.

I think that as an investigative role cop is very weak and it makes sense to me as a natural counter to the JK while also being the only role that gets guiltied by me. So like weak invest + protective with anti town utility makes some amount of sense to me. I've never designed a micro before so I don't really claim to be an expert but I think gun to my head I'd say its town sided, but I'm not really sure. I think the JK kind of makes sense too as a possible false positive to the role cop.

But like I said micro balance is not really a thing I have any experience or confidence in.
these answers give off the vibe of someone who is afraid to self advocate too hard which i wifomly read as kind of town
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:31 am

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In post 2133, hellbooks wrote:
In post 2063, Thestatusquo wrote: No idea. I'm not great with mech stuff like this. I can think of a some reasons why it would make sense to save it if you want but ultimately I'm not really sure what the right play for scum would be.

I think that as an investigative role cop is very weak and it makes sense to me as a natural counter to the JK while also being the only role that gets guiltied by me. So like weak invest + protective with anti town utility makes some amount of sense to me. I've never designed a micro before so I don't really claim to be an expert but I think gun to my head I'd say its town sided, but I'm not really sure. I think the JK kind of makes sense too as a possible false positive to the role cop.

But like I said micro balance is not really a thing I have any experience or confidence in.
these answers give off the vibe of someone who is afraid to self advocate too hard which i wifomly read as kind of town
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:32 am

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Shea works on public. Just read first post of day.

Normal townie just says "I CAUGHT ENCHANT!!!!!!!!!!!111oneone" there's is tirade how there's crumbs and etc and etc.
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:33 am

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yea i guess i feel really torn on the inside, but i find myself capable of just sticking with my original decision and not worrying about it too much. at this point the only reason id vote shea is if merlyn specifically asked me to do that. which might be frustrating to enchant, because i dont actually feel nearly as confident as my actions might make it seem. but yea idk im not going to let myself be tortured by indecisiveness. like dont worry about it too much yall replaced in like 10 pages ago you know?
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:33 am

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In post 2128, Merlyn wrote: lmao wait SHEA forced you to hammer?
I am very powerful.
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:33 am

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And how he would NEVER do this as mafia.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:35 am

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Let's be plain.

I was among first to vote Shea and also voted Hell and didn't like it afterwards, so i had unfavorable opinion to him. So, he 1vs1 me anyway. Decided to give self a little jumpstart.
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:37 am

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I'm gonna be real with you that serious post by hellbooks makes me almost want to vote her despite my guilty.

I don't think i can handle seriousbooks.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:37 am

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Go ahead i won't stop you.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:38 am

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can you literally please all just vote me please
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:38 am

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Would be a fitting end to this game for me to mislim books to throw you the win tbh.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:38 am

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no
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:38 am

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i think that if we all voted me together it would show that town and scum are capable of resolving their differences to unite against a common enemy and that would be beautiful
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:40 am

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We can vote no-lim while shea no-kill and annoy mod to closing this game in draw.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:41 am

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In post 2138, Enchant wrote: And how he would NEVER do this as mafia.
I'm pretty sure I didnt say I would never do this as mafia, I said that I don't tend to make plays as mafia that decrease my agency when other options are available and there is a CLEAR other option available to me here in shea!scum world.
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:41 am

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I would like to formally offer a draw to the scum team. The last remaining scum, please step forward and shake my hand.
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:41 am

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I could probably just convince my goat to vote enchant and then you could like vote yourself or something.
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