Mini Normal 2305 | GAME OVER

[geraintm]

Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake

[Save The Dragons]

emperor just feels like someone who couldn't keep up with the game. possibly uninformed, a scum PT could potentially help with that but it's not a guarentee.

if bob is scum they've played well, they've painted a picture of me being scum the entire way and hasn't really let go of that. the thing i'm getting hung up on is the following:

they're not inaccurate.

On d1 you were on roden. Greeting TRs you for something and Roden then trs you for something. You don't notice greeting's tr and attack roden for his tr. I don't know how you can say you were on greeting since d1.

you did lurk whether you want to call it that or not. if you want to call it a tactical decision to not be in the thread, that's fine too, it's still possible to do as scum. to discuss whether or not you "lurked" is pedantic and beside the point.

can you point out where you had me in your POE on d2? it's possible i'm missing this, I have to run to work so i can't check myself right now

Is this any different to last game when you were scum?

To finish off, Dragon should of been town reading HEM if he was town as those actions he was using to make a case were teh very same actions that HEM did in his last town game

I don't see how I was supposed to equate HEM from the last game I played with them into this game. HEM acted entirely differently.

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On D1 of the previous game mentioned, HEM had multiple suspects and voted multiple people. Here, HEM held onto Roden pretty much the entire time. HEM got into a 1v1 but that could just be their personality, not necessarily AI. On D2 HEM tried to push someone (N_M) and eventually found themselves up against a wall. They may have chilled a little, but didn't spend the day avoiding being the center of attention. I don't see the comparison.

I think this is scum trying to frame me.

I'm not going to get very far with my opinion of a mason hunter being scum or town so i won't bother but it could be either way i think. I don't really know enough about game balance to say for sure.

I feel like bob had an agenda of trying to get me mislimmed and came into the thread trying to align with the masons in order to do so, following MT's suspicion on Klick.

VOTE: Bob i hope this is right.

[Save The Dragons]

gera just seems uniformed and disengaged, it could mean they're the last scum disinterested in the game but i think it's more likely they're just town here.

curious i need to look at some more when i have more time

[curiouskarmadog]

Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake

STD the most town? huh.

so Gera, that first lim, do you feel like scum was on it or not?

do you feel like both Greetings and Fur were bussing me (as scum)?

[curiouskarmadog]

gera just seems uniformed and disengaged, it could mean they're the last scum disinterested in the game but i think it's more likely they're just town here.

curious i need to look at some more when i have more time

question,

why did you vote bob BEFORE looking at me more?

[curiouskarmadog]

Feels standoffish from the game, letting it happen around them

you typed this and didnt feel hypocritical at all?

[bob3141]

Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake

Gerain the problem with dragon is when he is scum he tends to lean more towards the deep wolf. And his spot on greeting inst really a clear as thats e-2 is a very useful spot to get when doing a planned bus.

[geraintm]

Feels standoffish from the game, letting it happen around them

you typed this and didnt feel hypocritical at all?

Yes

[Save The Dragons]

gera just seems uniformed and disengaged, it could mean they're the last scum disinterested in the game but i think it's more likely they're just town here.

curious i need to look at some more when i have more time

question,

why did you vote bob BEFORE looking at me more?

Felt like it

[the worst]

y'all gera played a very gera-scum-game-ey game and is only efforting after being called out on it

i'm also wary he just deadass hasn't cared about this game regardless of alignment


i agree bob is like :shrug:. i think broadly speaking i like him better than gera atp, emperor i'm like just exactly in the middle on
will be voting dragons today because i think he makes for a less exciting f3, tomorrow i'd probably vote gera over bob

[curiouskarmadog]

I would rather not have a tomorrow.

[curiouskarmadog]

well I dont think we are going to get any other revelations today.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

thats -1.

[the worst]

Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake

I think this is a take which Gera thinks is towny, but it's kind of come out of nowhere without any of his usual snark or interesting nuanced reactionary reads and I'm not sure I really buy it? If anything it's hoping to throw enough chaos into the gamestate to look like he's not scum cruising to victory but it kinda rings shallow


I'll hammer dragons sometime on a whim before deadline

[curiouskarmadog]

Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake

I think this is a take which Gera thinks is towny, but it's kind of come out of nowhere without any of his usual snark or interesting nuanced reactionary reads and I'm not sure I really buy it? If anything it's hoping to throw enough chaos into the gamestate to look like he's not scum cruising to victory but it kinda rings shallow


I'll hammer dragons sometime on a whim before deadline

this is why I dont want to go 1v2 is STD is not scum

if bob IS scum, we are done.

and I dont know between Bob and Gera, leaning Gera...but I just feel like it will be a up hill battle.

[Thestatusquo]

VoteCount 5.2

Save The Dragons [ 2 ]

bob3141, curiouskarmadog

bob3141 [ 1 ]

save the dragons

Not Voting [ 2 ]

geraintm, the worst

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-08-13 15:45:31)

[the worst]

Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake

I think this is a take which Gera thinks is towny, but it's kind of come out of nowhere without any of his usual snark or interesting nuanced reactionary reads and I'm not sure I really buy it? If anything it's hoping to throw enough chaos into the gamestate to look like he's not scum cruising to victory but it kinda rings shallow


I'll hammer dragons sometime on a whim before deadline

this is why I dont want to go 1v2 is STD is not scum

if bob IS scum, we are done.

and I dont know between Bob and Gera, leaning Gera...but I just feel like it will be a up hill battle.

We're on pretty much the same page. Similarly, but different, to why I still think HEM needed to go. If anyone goes to solve a f3 with either hem or dragons in it, they're just too hard to satisfactorily townread and there's just too high a chance of voting there rather than evaluating gera/bob evenly.

also, like, it's super super possible that dragons is just scum. lol. i just overthink a lot.

[the worst]

VOTE: dragons

praying

i don't think there's much more work i'm motivated to do here. i think this looks more like gera's scum meta, i hope dragons is scum like most of the town thought but i don't really like... feel it in me soul... if this runs into f3 i'd probably vote gera. dragons is sus of bob.

good luck, hopefully i'll see y'all at the town win party with that piña colada real soon

[the worst]

MT's final read in mason pt was wanting bob dead.

El's final read in mason pt was agreeing HEM needed to go, seemed pretty confident on Dragons.

just for what that adds.

[the worst]

like, bob can be scum i have no idea what his alignment is
i'm really sorry to whoever has to decide this f3

[Thestatusquo]

VoteCount 5.3 FINAL

Save The Dragons [ 3 ]

bob3141, curiouskarmadog, the worst

bob3141 [ 1 ]

save the dragons

Not Voting [ 1 ]

geraintm

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-08-13 15:45:31)

[Thestatusquo]

STD has been ushered off to the shadow realm.

Spoiler: He was

Mafia Goon!

TOWN WINS!

Mafia Topic
Mason Topic
Dead Thread

[Thestatusquo]

Roles:
MT The Worst and Elements received the following:

Town Mason

Welcome to Mini Normal ####! You are a

Town Mason

.

You share a private topic with your fellow Masons, located here, in which you may communicate privately during all phases of the game. You all know one another to be Town-aligned.

You win when the Town is the sole surviving faction.

Bob received the following:

Town Mason-Finder

Welcome to Mini Normal ####! You are a

Town Mason-Finder

.

Each night, you may target a player to learn whether that player is a Mason. (You will get "no result" if this action is prevented.)

You win when the Town is the sole surviving faction.

STD Bingle and camelCasedSnivy received the following

Mafia Goon

Welcome to Mini Normal ####! You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You share a private topic with your fellow Mafiosi, located here, in which you may communicate privately during all phases of the game.

Each night, you and your teammates may together select a player to shoot and kill.

You win when the Mafia is the sole surviving faction, or when nothing can prevent this.

Everyone else received a townie role PM.

[the worst]

sheeping everyone else & never trusting my own instincts or logic again

gg everyone, was a fun one, thanks for picking this up shea!

[Thestatusquo]

Thanks to our replacements and to the rest of the players who stepped up and continued the game.

[DkKoba]

hi i reviewed this very thrilling and complex setup